Teens and Early Twenties.....PLEASE!!

I believe that this post is a very good one.

I also do believe that it is perhaps a little too soon.. Perhaps it could have waited until tomorrow morning.

However, It reminded me that I need to register with the IAM so as I can complete my training after I did the introductory course <--- Good thing.

There is no need to start an argument, sleep on it.

Originally Posted by specialone

Road or dirt?

Certainly dirt bikes carry less risk that's for sure.

Road.

Had more scares and offs on tarmac than I have ever had on the road.

And that isnt just because I've done more mileage on road, its because there are less blind people offroad and the byways are in better nick than most A roads...!

[squirrel_hunter]

I agree with Fenjer. I feel this sort of post is wholly inappropriate at this time.

[Bibio]

i'm the opposite. i think its just morbid enough to maybe get threw to someone and if it does then maybe just maybe it might save a life.

Ralphs a good mate of mine so I know he means this the right way, won't I don't agree with in his op is the teens and early twenties bit, I accept the riders that generally ride too fast into blind corners or whatever and have that air of invincibility are younger riders, but we can all be guilty of some sort of risk taking at times.

I'm not being patronising posting the above, had I rode at that age I probably would've done the same or worse, I might not even be posting now, who knows.

We could all do with taking some of the points on board, not just the young uns.

Originally Posted by squirrel_hunter

I agree with Fenjer. I feel this sort of post is wholly inappropriate at this time.

+1.

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

I think you already have your answer Fenjer

I cannot and will not sit aside, see young motorcyclists die and say nothing. The timing IMO is the best possible timing, because tonight is the one night the young people reading might actually let it sink in. Timing is perfect for what I want to achieve IMO. I have now and will have in future, no regrets.

I wasn't asking for an apology, nor do I disagree with what you've said. I'm just suggesting that you wait a little before posting these types of threads.

People are in shock, numb and saddened over what has happened to Reeder, and won't necessarily take in the message you're trying to get across.

Your timing is not perfect. It's offensive.

[Messie]

I'm sorry Ralph but I think this post is offensive too. Not just because of the timing but the gross overgeneralisation and stereotyping of youngsters.

None of us know why Reeder came off the road and hit a tree. It may have been excessive speed, but it may equally have been mud or ducks crossing.

I know old and reckless riders as well as young ones. I also know unlucky ones of every age.

I want to lock this thread but I won't as it's opinion and you're entitled to it

Originally Posted by specialone

Fully agree col, but lets not assume it was rider error in this case.

Stay safe everyone, not just you young uns.

+1. Anything could have caused this accident, and we'll probably never know.

Although I don't agree with the stereotyping as everyone has stupid tendencies at some point regardless of their age I do get the point Ralph is putting across and I do think the timing is fairly appropriate. It is while you are reeling in shock and disbelief and still raw with upset that you start to take stock of what it is you would be leaving behind if the same thing were to happen to you, of the people you love and how their lives will be shattered. Hell, I was doing it last night with Chris, discussing what would happen if one of us went first and thoroughly depressing as it was, it takes an unhappy event like this to set those cogs going. I was more concerned about me proving my relatives and all those in the "dangerous evil machines" gang right in dying on a motorcycle which is something I would hate.

It was a good post Ralph, age-ist but good

Take care EVERYONE. Can't say it enough. Often it doesn't matter how careful you are if your numbers are up but you can but try.

I have to admit that as soon as I found out I selfishly thought how lucky I was that it wasn't Gav as I don't know what I would do.
I think even without this post everyone takes stock of how important life is.