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and in place...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/painting99.jpg
I've figured out a much better way of putting them on now so the second one will be much better.
When it said "warm up to forms shapes", I put it in the oven for 4 minutes at 80 degrees and this was far too hot/too long and the glue shrank away from the edges slightly. I've also worked out a way of putting the screw holes in after its fitted to the seat which is a lot easier.
More soon...
Coming together now...
and coincidentally the 100th photo in the painting section...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/painting100.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/painting101.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/painting102.jpg
The Belly pan needs a quick set of number boards sprayed on and then a clear laquer over the carbon fibre and that'll be ready too.
See that big Fork shaped hole... that's the last bit :D
Light at the end of the tunnel...
kaivalagi
18-03-11, 03:11 PM
That's more like it, the pin striping works a treat and the colours go very nicely together...good job!
madness
18-03-11, 03:12 PM
Looking good!
Thanks gents :)
I REALLY want to put this on the road!
C
andrewsmith
18-03-11, 03:50 PM
MOT and the required gear will be less than £100.
You should enter a unicycle competition with the bike like that ;)
A Little bit of video for you (http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/SV650test.avi) :D
Turn those speakers up LOUD!
He/She Lives!
Not sure if I've routed the throttle cable wrong or taking the thermostat out has chaged the settings but its ticking over at 3K now but its a minor problem. :)
Oh, and thats reving to 7 K. Its too loud to take it higher. Even that hurts! :D
C
kaivalagi
18-03-11, 05:04 PM
Oooooo, niiiiiice sound from that zorst....I see what you mean about high tick over, almost sounds like a V4 idling :lol:
Uploaded the vid to youtube for everyone's viewing and listening pleasure:
u3sAww0CmPc
Thanks dude!
Problem solved. It was the rear throttle body linkage hanging up on the petrol dran pipe.
Purring like a tiger now :D
My ears are ringing, I can't wait to hear it flat out down the straight.
C
andrewsmith
18-03-11, 05:32 PM
What speak up??
She sounds a lot healthier than when you got it
Turns out that Halfords (yes, there's that word again) Petrol proof laquer is about as petrol proof as nail varnish is to acetone!
I'm going to have to t-cut the whole tank! :smt013
Just DON'T Use Halfords stuff!
C
This photo would proably win the "least interesting picture of the year" award but its all progress.
White and Orange already finished and now masked off and number boards
sprayed on the belly pan.
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/painting103.jpg
Juts got to give it 30 minutes to dry, rip the masking off then give the whole thing a coat of clear coat and thats the painting done!
Then I can get onto little finishing touches, although I was in the garage till 11 last night so most of those are done too :)
It looks like I'll have to do a few "Adjustments" to the fairing mounts as they are a little bit stressed in places but it's not a big job. A bend here, a cut there.
C
And we're on the home straight...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/painting104.jpg
This is the mangled/fixed side. the other side looks much better. There's something very sexy about Carbon fibre! Even if it is so thin you can't fill it.
C
looking good m8. are you going to be at EF next weekend?
Yep Pitching up Saturday afternoon (hope the gate is open) and having a few Whistle Wetters that evening. You coming along on Sunday?
C
Belly pan finished and Dzus added. Just meeds a little dremmel to fit...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/painting105.jpg
My fave tank pads added. I love these..
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/painting106.jpg
and the other seat unit fitted...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/painting107.jpg
Rugby's on, have to fly :)
The Inimitable Mr Smith popped round and lent an extra pair of hands and the belly pan went on.
Once we'd realised the fairing mounts are all too long and need to be cut down, things went very smoothly.
Bodywork in roughly the right position. We couldn't do any more as I need to check learance for the handlebars and the forks aren't coming till Wednesday to it'll be thursday before I can wheel him out for a final photo shoot.
Its all got to come back off now to allow tinkering :)
Here he is...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/painting108.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/painting109.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/painting110.jpg
if anything i will be along on the Saturday depending on how long i spend in the workshop.
The Guru
20-03-11, 02:27 AM
Thats looking the dogs danglies!
Busy day yesterday. I managed to sort out all of the odds and sods that needed doing. The race HQ now has a supply of teabags, the tyre warmers are OK, I sewed up the loose threads on my race gloves (that saw three big offs last year and are still good as gold) Cleaned the flies off my helmet. and sorted through the spares dept. I never knew I had so many handlebars!
Today the most important part of all will be going on... The horn :)
and the battery on the van has gone so that might take the money that was supposed to pay for entries to Elvington, unless I can get a cheapy from the scrappy. :(
2 days to forks 6 days to Track :D
C
You have to love scrapyards! :)
3 week old Heavy duty Van battery, 50% off the new price. :)
and the van brakes should be fixed today too!
C
yorkie_chris
21-03-11, 11:26 PM
Annnnnd I'm knackered.
On their way :)
The voodoo was a special blend this time and needed virgin's tears and there's non to be found for four score and ten around Halifax! B&Q had sold out of Whale fingers too.
C
My forks are coming today!.. My forks are coming today!
I've been up since 6 looking out of the window but he hasn't been yet (7.30 am).
Where IS he! Hurry up!
Oh, the excitement!
C
andrewsmith
23-03-11, 07:58 AM
and like a kid at Christmas, Berlin waits impatiently to open his presents
:lol:
Have fun mate!
8.07 ... Still not here yet!
He sits and waits, sits and waits...
9.03! Where IS he! I'm getting cramp!
Where are they coming from and what service are you using? Did you ask for before 9am delivery?
Shut up then and get on with fitting them. :roll:
OK!
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/forks1.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/forks2.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/forks3.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/forks4.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/forks5.jpg
I shall be wasting the rest of the morning fitting brakes. I've got some things I want to try ;)
Oh, and do those yokes look straight to you? They measure straight.
C
I think your petrol tank is p'ssed which is making it look like the yokes are not straight. :)
I thought your paintwork was pretty horrible at first to be honest. However looking at it all on the bike it looks really really good :D
A Minitwin is reborn:
Naked...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished1.jpg
Nose cone...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished2.jpg
Side panels...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished3.jpg
Full fairing...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished4.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished5.jpg
Alternative tail piece...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished6.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished7.jpg
front...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished8.jpg
Rear tail Pice 1
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished9.jpg
rear tail pice 2
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished10.jpg
and I'm spent! :)
Just the exhaust wrap to do, the horn button to wire in (just arrived) and the fairing mounts to fettle. (it'll sit 2" higher along the bottom.
LETS RACE!! :D
I think you deserve a 5 place shift to the front of the grid for effort after qualifying. :razz:
That would be nice, can you ask them for me?
OK, potential problem...
I've done a whopping 100 meters on it and unfortunately, I have no rear suspension.
I changed the rear spring to that recommended by Ohlins and ... I can't compress it! Its at minimum preload and it's still pretty much as if I had a straight rod in there instead of a shock.
Static sag.. Erm No
Rider sag... Er, no!
This may well ******** things up as I'm never going to be able to get another one from Ohlins in time for the weekend!!
More soon.
Oh, and the fairing is mounting up nicely! :)
Cherrrr-ist I'm stupid sometimes! :)
I wound the rebound and compression damping right in earlier on ready to cound them back out and it effectvely locked the shock.
DOH! :)
Now fixed :)
Nearly there. Fairing refitted properly, last of the stickers and Numbers on.
Just stomp grips and sag settings to do and I'm all done :)
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished11.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished12.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished13.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished14.jpg
...and this would never win any prizes as a tourer! That's one hard seat! :)
C
DarrenSV650S
23-03-11, 04:52 PM
That paint job is awesome
Cheers :)
Stompgrips back on...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished15.jpg
and I used this stuff. Piece of cake. Just spray them and slap 'em on..
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/finished16.jpg
DaveW_42
23-03-11, 05:13 PM
looking great there Carl.
andrewsmith
23-03-11, 05:14 PM
Happy days!!!
Just need it to do 10 laps now
I'l very happy to say... thats it! She/he's done!
and I'm chuffed with it. I will not fall off! I Will not fall off!
Et Voila...
Bry8ftcqp2Y
The camera does not do the sounds justice! Its so loud it hurts! :)
The Guru
23-03-11, 05:47 PM
:thumleft:
Sag settings done.
front Sag
static 30mm
Rider 37mm
Rear sag
Static 10mm
Rider 50 mm
That'll do me :) No adjustments required until I'm on the track.
Voodoo Fork settings... Top secret ;)
Rear Ohlins settings std. 330mm ride height (but I've lifted the tail unit to put my weight on the front. Its high! I'm 6'1" and I'm on tippy toes!).
I'll be starting at the std 12 clicks of compression and 13 clicks of rebound and ramping them up from there.
Right, time to clear up! This will take a while! :)
C
yey. its alive and ready to go.
dont forget to tighten the front brake fluid reservoir screw....
lovely job C looks good enough, sounds the doggys now just to see if it all the hard effort has been worth it.
yorkie_chris
23-03-11, 06:36 PM
Too short, that is same as stock, put it up to 340 and drop tail back down a bit
I will, between sessions on Sunday.
C
dont forget to tighten the front brake fluid reservoir screw....
I saw that once I'd uploaded it :) Done :)
Some before's and afters...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/today141.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/today142.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/today143.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/today144.jpg
After...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/Finished17.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/Finished18.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/Finished19.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/Finished20.jpg
I prefered it the way it was. You shouldn't have bothered wasting all your time and effort.
Joke. Looks awesome. Shame it has to go on the track and not be seen by everyone on the road.
So Here's the full spec as it sits..
Sv650 K5 (that as far as I know has alwas been a race bike.
3100 miles
K&N filter
Venhill quick action throttle
Unknown, but very sexy race start/kill switch
Curvy handlebars (as they can be adjusted for angle)
Renthal grips
K&N bar ends
Harris Kevlar and carbon fibre fairing
Braking Wavy disks all round
Performance friction brake pads
GSXR 600 braided front brake lines (shorter than SV's)
Voodoo filled YC Suspension forks (with added dragons pee!)
Racetech 0.95 springs
Race fairing mount
Unknown rear subframe
Race battery holder and lightweigth Gel battery
Underseat Hindle full exhaust system (with wrapping)
Thermostat removed.
K3-K4 radiator (wider than K5)
Ohlins Su304 rear shock with new spring
Harris rear sets (same rearsets fit GSXR 600 SRAD, K1-K3)
Unknown make of crash bobbings in the end of the fairing mounts.
and to start the season Pirelli SC pro tyres in SC1 front and SC2 rear compounds.
Last dyno'd at 70.9 hp (before I got it)
C
crisis95
24-03-11, 10:23 AM
70.9hp? That's not going to be enough to hang with some of those Melville "minitwins"...
Looking good though. I'd have prefered a blue tank but who am I to give advice on tasteful paint schemes.
70.9hp? That's not going to be enough to hang with some of those Melville "minitwins"...
Looking good though. I'd have prefered a blue tank but who am I to give advice on tasteful paint schemes.
I reckon well setup suspension will give you more advantage than 1hp
crisis95
24-03-11, 12:08 PM
It was meant a bit tongue in cheek mate. There are tuned Irish road 650's that struggled to keep up with some Scottish "minitwins"...
Very true :)
The tank might end up with the same colour scheme as the nose cone. TBA
C
454697819
24-03-11, 12:16 PM
Very true :)
The tank might end up with the same colour scheme as the nose cone. TBA
C
Or a bespoke crash damage look?
On a serious note I have been watching this thread carefully and it looks awesome, I really wish you the best for the season and hope you get what you want from it.
Why Thankyou Sir! :)
Well, I've finished the exhaust wrapping and I've got three knuckles that aren't bleeding and fibrglass-itis from my elbows down! ITCHY!
Before...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/lagging1.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/lagging2.jpg
and then after...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/lagging3.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/lagging4.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/lagging5.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/lagging6.jpg
Once you switch the bike on and get it hot there's a lot of smoke but this gives you the chance to see where the hot air is going when you're sitting in the holding area and on the start line. There's an amazing amount gets funnelled through the hole in the swinging arm right past the shock! No wonder it overheats! Hopefully this'll stop it going off like the Penske did in race 3 last year.
C
At 50mm, the rear is too soft. Just my opinion like. :smt101 ;)
Cheers Toot, Lots of adjustment going on this weekend. The settings have already changed from last night.
Front static sag is now 20mm and rider sag 30 to give more travel to the suspension. Rear next.
Ooohhhhh! its got a lovely pop on the overrun now from the extra head igniting the unburnt fuel!
C
I think you have a problem with your rearset. It would appear to have fallen off.
andrewsmith
24-03-11, 02:21 PM
So I'll have very bloody knuckles on sunday :D
B are the ear plugs a must?
This is looking great Carl. Good luck for the season.
I'm hoping to get through to EF sometime. I'm still sad I didn't see my old curvy front wheel go racing last year. :p
Come over this Sunday Tam. The Weather's looking good and there's no entry fee.
C
Might manage that. I'll open negotiations. :)
Cheers Toot, Lots of adjustment going on this weekend. The settings have already changed from last night.
Front static sag is now 20mm and rider sag 30 to give more travel to the suspension. Rear next.
Ooohhhhh! its got a lovely pop on the overrun now from the extra head igniting the unburnt fuel!
C
Not that i should be helping a competitor or owt but............
I would go for front, 25 static, rider 35. Rear 12 static 35 rider. You want the front and rear to drop in equal amounts to keep the bikes balance.
I'm sure someone will be along soon to say i'm wrong, so take it or leave it mate. ;)
Cheers Toot! Much appreciated. I don't think I'm going to be able to get those settings on the rear. If I go any less on the rider sag I'll have no static sag at all. 35 rider sag is possible though.
I'll give them a blast on Sunday at EF.
and technically, we may be in the same race but I'm not what you might call your competitor. :)
C
crisis95
24-03-11, 05:53 PM
Don't listen to him, it's a cruel trick.
Ideally, you need a heavier spring mate, or lose a pound or 10. :rolleyes:
See how it rides Sunday..... :cool:
jacknell
24-03-11, 07:36 PM
Ideally, you need a heavier spring mate, or lose a pound or 10. :rolleyes:
See how it rides Sunday..... :cool:
Is any one stoping up there on the saturday night, or just travelling up on sunday morning.
Don't worry Gordon. I'll be running the front at 10psi and the rear at 60 to compensate for his red herring ;) I see his game!
Yep, We'll be ariving at about 3 pm. White Iveco van and caravan. The tracks in use till 3 with the training day so no hurry. They'll have to finish before we can get over, unless there's a break in proceedings. We'll be pitching up then I've got to disappear for a couple of hours (Andy will stillbe there chitting the chat) then it'll be beer O'clock. You're more than welcome to come round for a few. We're usually set up between the two toilet blocks.
C
andrewsmith
24-03-11, 08:38 PM
it summer, it racing season!!! :smt040
I will just be driving up in the morning Kev.
I will have my onboard camera on to catch a bit of action. Might follow you for a few laps Carl and show everyone your style.
jacknell
24-03-11, 09:00 PM
Don't worry Gordon. I'll be running the front at 10psi and the rear at 60 to compensate for his red herring ;) I see his game!
Yep, We'll be ariving at about 3 pm. White Iveco van and caravan. The tracks in use till 3 with the training day so no hurry. They'll have to finish before we can get over, unless there's a break in proceedings. We'll be pitching up then I've got to disappear for a couple of hours (Andy will stillbe there chitting the chat) then it'll be beer O'clock. You're more than welcome to come round for a few. We're usually set up between the two toilet blocks.
C
Spoke to Diana at mellvile club the other night and she was saying there was no over night camping on the Sat ..... Best check Carl.
Might get up there on Sat night if ithe gates are open.
That would be fantastic Toot. Im always open for pointers and a bit of advice.
Kev, I've posted on the Melville forum about Saturday. If we cant get in we'll be in the nearest layby. ;@)
Berlin m8 if you cant stay overnight gives a bell. i know somewhere ;) i'll clear it with someone first though.
i'm almost a definite that i'll pop in around 5-6 ish.
jacknell
25-03-11, 06:48 AM
That would be fantastic Toot. Im always open for pointers and a bit of advice.
Kev, I've posted on the Melville forum about Saturday. If we cant get in we'll be in the nearest layby. ;@)
not one of those dogging laybys i hope :D
Heading up Saturday. If we get thrown out, we get thrown out :)
andrewsmith
25-03-11, 02:22 PM
whats happening mate?
edited above
and the gennie started first pull! result!
Were in! The party's started! Over 100 people here.
We're back and I'm pleased to say in one piece! I didn't crash! I tried, but didn't!
So the paintwork is still in one piece :)
Thats not so say there weren't "issues" diring the day becasue there were. quite a few.
1) I'm not as impressed with Performance Friction pads as I thought I'd be. They may well be coming out and others going in. For £100 a set I was expecting a a lot more!
2) The gear linkage fell off at the end of the straight. As I was trying to go down the box for the hairpin at the end I suddenly realised there was no lever :) Turns out Harris rearset linkages need two lock nuts :)
3) I've got an irritating FI fault and I'll be tracking this down this week. Three times the bike cut out and my first guess is a dodgy bypass for the side stand switch. Which is actually up in the nose cone somewhere. Can someone please exlain why my rev counder needle goes to 7K when I switch the ignition on for about 3 seconds before dropping back to zero? It also did 10K then 7K then back to zero. Weird.
4) the suspension needs a bit of jiggery pokery. But its nearly there. amazingly, despite returning the rear settinngs to std, I ended up exactly where the previous owner had them!
5) I had to *lower* the rearsets at the end of the day to try and get my knee down! It sits so tall I can't reach the ground with me knee :)
All in all exactly what a shakedown day is for and the bike was running extremely comfortable 1.13 laps when it did make it to warm tyre stage without a red flag (oh, we dozend of those) and without breaking down. We even got red flagged on session before we'd got on the track! Now thats a first! :)
Oh, and my Sv wheelies on power (without pulling on the bars) in first and second! Thats good! Very good! :D Bit of a surprise finding out though.
Andy (bless him) is officially fired as team photographer! Despite a full day of mayhem, action and carnage... he came up with these..
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/ef9.jpg
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/ef10.jpg
Sorry about that :D
Great Craic, excellent advise! (thanks Toot!) and great to put faces to forum members.
Roll on Elvington next weekend!! :)
C
andrewsmith
27-03-11, 08:44 PM
and mine on my camera are just as s***e
I look like a bot fly bite, and it is sore
good to get the niggles out the way for the season.
sorry about the cuffuffle on sat night m8. i got in the grounds then got a phone call to be elsewhere (not amused). next time hopefully.
sounds like you are missing a permanent live supply to the instrument cluster if your rev needle is going up to 7K when you switch it on. Normally only does this when you reconnect the battery.
aha, then that might be what it is then. It goes to 7K (and once to 10k then 7 k) the first time it's been turned off for a while (say between races, but then doesn't do it if the bike is switched off for say 30 seconds or a minute, then turned back on.
Any idea which wire should be permanently live? does it natter if the bike is stored for extended periods of time? Does it indeed matter that it keeps going to 7 K on start up?
C
andrewsmith
27-03-11, 09:27 PM
Here is my crap pics (no they're f***ing dire)
http://s1034.photobucket.com/albums/a426/andrewsmith1708/East%20Fortune%20Test%20day%2027th%20March%202011/
which year bike is it?
K5 and it should be noted that none of the wiring is now where it used to be :0 everything is under the clocks inc the ECU. So don't say "just check under the seat" becasue the only thing under the seat is fresh air :)
C
K5 and it should be noted that none of the wiring is now where it used to be :0 everything is under the clocks inc the ECU. So don't say "just check under the seat" becasue the only thing under the seat is fresh air :)
C
ah I see. That'll be the reason there's a wire missing then ;-), been there, done that myself.
From what I can see on the wiring diagram, it should be a red/white wire that runs from the instrument cluster to both the fuel system fuse, one side of the fuel pump relay and the ECM module connector.
PM me your email address and I'll mail over a wiring diagram
Cheers Flymo, I've got a manual here. I'll have a shuftie at it in there. But wiring diagrams are not my strong point :0 it' kisy like looking at a plate of spagetti!
C
OK, FI Fault diagnosed.
C41- Fuel pump relay. So wire checking in progress.
... now I know where the fuel relay is supposed to be but just finding it might be a challenge :)
OK, FI Fault diagnosed.
C41- Fuel pump relay. So wire checking in progress.
... now I know where the fuel relay is supposed to be but just finding it might be a challenge :)
funny you should mention that, isnt that on the same part of the loom as your missing wire?
OK, progress.
I've had the relay out and tested it and its OK, the bike starts fine and runs fine (doesn't it always with intermittent faults?)
if I turn on the ingition in dealer mode with the kill switch off it comes up as C41. if I turn the ignition on in dealer mode with the kill switch on - No fault.
So I'm presuming the Kill switch is wired to kill the feed to the fuel pump relay.
What voltage should I be getting across the relay control wires in normal circumstances?
There are also several wires cut from the loom at the back of the clocks. these are:
Orange/red with green bands
Pink/White with green bands
Thin Black
Yellow
pale green
and one of the Black and white ones with green bands.
Half of the display is not working on the LCD (some vertical bars in the mileage etc)
Does this sound about right?
C
Now its saying its the C23 -Tip Over sensor thans the problem. Except I can't find the tip over sensor :) What's it look like? :)
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