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shiftin_gear98
12-05-20, 01:22 PM
I too had mine on the clutch bolt. Much less intrusive.
Also much easier to operate with your clutch hand whilst riding instead of throttle hand.
If you have any sheet metal kicking around they are easy to knock up. Mine needed replacing, so I knocked one up out of a section of cable trunking.
Adam Ef
12-05-20, 02:06 PM
Not a great photo but... https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200512/72dbeef7926fb4cac3c789bb867c3a54.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GECtQmw.jpg
Fitted a voltmeter to the VFR. This is quite a common mod given the charging issues that a lot of these bikes suffer from.
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Adam Ef
13-05-20, 03:32 PM
What are you going to fit on the other side John? A USB port maybe?
Adam Ef
13-05-20, 03:41 PM
Air filter replaced on the GSXR. Not sure how old the other one was but keen to get anything unkown swapped out.
Also took the front end apart to fit Variobars I'd got second hand. Went to adjust the bars and found one of the bolts totally seized and bolt corners mashed too much for a socket to engage with. So, all taken off again and back together as it was. A real pain and waste of time and now the seller is being a d**k on eBay and refusing to send a return postage label and hasn't got a clue how to navigate eBay (as mentioned on "gripe" thread) .. I'm sure he actually has and is just trying to make it as difficult as possible and hold on to the refund money as long as possible.
So bars will stay the same for now and I'll just have to do some more Joe Wicks PE with the kids to strengthen my core :-)
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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49890366218_7724e46ab9_c.jpg
What are you going to fit on the other side John? A USB port maybe?Probably. I've already got one on the right-hand bar. I've since filled that hole with the lid off a 35mm film cannister. I bought the meter ages ago, it's waterproof for marine use. It's connect via a relay.
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So a reasonably productive weekend with little man's push bike rebuild and if dad (me) wasnt such a Muppet it would have been finished [emoji35]
Didn't realise the front derailluer I ordered was top pull and not bottom pull [emoji2357]
Front forks removed, stripped, primed and painted and refitted
Rear swing arm pivot cleaned and greased.
Handle bars stripped, sprayed and refitted,
New brake levers and gear shifters fitted.
New v brakes fitted front and rear, setup and adjusted with new cables
Rear derailleur new cable run and indexing set.
Front derailleur installed and new cable run.
Hopefully get the right part by next week and be able to actually get the SV out next Sunday for a short ride [emoji1696]
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Grant66
21-05-20, 05:03 PM
New LED indicators, all the way from ameriki in under a week.
Think I've run out of cheap (ish) changes now. Hopefully the cost of the more expensive ones will put me off buying anything else.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200521/ce97e556871903cdc944c8b1ffba5a80.jpg
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dirtydog
23-05-20, 07:33 AM
Not done any bike tinkering but have spent about £300 this week on bike stuff so that ive got everything I need ready to tinker.
I'm ditching the clipons and doing a bar conversion.
Sean_Morgan
25-05-20, 02:17 PM
What have I tinkered with today ?
Nothing at all, I've been out collecting nods and bugs https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200525/602eb5fb010c1907cdb0a5e4d26fe020.jpg
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Got a DID chain tool so I could fit my new chain and sprockets. Good bit of kit!
To remove the old one I ground off the pin heads then pushed them out using the tool
https://i.imgur.com/e0JxMmS.jpg
there is no need to use the rivet pusher if you grind the old tops off. all you do is use a screwdriver to pry the plate off ;)
DarrenSV650S
26-05-20, 01:22 AM
Oh yeah, I didn't think of that lol
Sean_Morgan
30-05-20, 04:43 PM
New tinted screen fittedhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200530/b55ab3634779240a6835cac28af90c65.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200530/d510f7977289374462d850f4a4b819d0.jpg
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dirtydog
05-06-20, 11:23 PM
Have finally got everything I need for my bar conversion (except the time to do it now :mad:)
https://i.ibb.co/cb1cKFK/IMG-6925.jpg (https://ibb.co/yhXnmym)
New brake hoses, throttle cables, bar grips
Wasn't sure if I was going to need clutch or choke cables though
Have finally got everything I need for my bar conversion (except the time to do it now :mad:)
https://i.ibb.co/cb1cKFK/IMG-6925.jpg (https://ibb.co/yhXnmym)
Wasn't sure if I was going to need clutch or choke cables though
nice one.
according to mr suzuki they are different part numbers and from experience i would presume so.
you can get away with cutting the ends of the bars to get the standard naked cables on but IIR you cant use/do it with the sport ones.
Renthal bars are very wide.
dirtydog
06-06-20, 12:27 PM
nice one.
according to mr suzuki they are different part numbers and from experience i would presume so.
you can get away with cutting the ends of the bars to get the standard naked cables on but IIR you cant use/do it with the sport ones.
Renthal bars are very wide.
Yes they do seem particularly wide and I vaguely remember cutting some renthal bars that I fitted on a naked many years ago.
I've got brake hoses and throttle cables from a naked and just ordered some naked clutch and choke cables.
The top yoke is lovely, can't beat a bit of cnc machining
shiftin_gear98
06-06-20, 06:40 PM
Not a lot, after finally ordering new tyres for the GSXR, and waiting a week for the rear to arrive. I set about to swap them over. I quickly realised that I'm a numpty.
It's the first time spannering on the GSXR, and I don't own a 24mm hex key to undo the front, or have a 36mm socket for the rear. Bugger.
Amazon should deliver then Monday.
I did however dust the cobwebs off my long forgotten Cube road bike.
Dave20046
06-06-20, 09:07 PM
Yes they do seem particularly wide and I vaguely remember cutting some renthal bars that I fitted on a naked many years ago.
I've got brake hoses and throttle cables from a naked and just ordered some naked clutch and choke cables.
The top yoke is lovely, can't beat a bit of cnc machining
Been meaning to post this, more for riders with new bikes as there’s been a few lately but probably give you an idea for how much to cut for shoulder width.
His accent sort of grates me as a bit false, I’m sure he’s British or something originally but mostly good advice anyhoo
https://youtu.be/47YG4dAwOIM
he has been at the game for a loooong time and his knowledge of suspension tuning is superb (2 clicks out). he is a bit vague at giving the absolute information but if your clever enough you can work things out.
Dave20046
07-06-20, 10:19 AM
he has been at the game for a loooong time and his knowledge of suspension tuning is superb (2 clicks out). he is a bit vague at giving the absolute information but if your clever enough you can work things out.
Yeah I found him
Useful a couple of years ago with his tyre wear advice . He reads tyre ripples and snotters like a mystic with tea leaves .
He used to do paid for videos but looks like he’s made a lot of it free lately as the self promotion probably makes him more money these days
Checked over the gsxr ready to take to dealers to finally get the recalls done after the theft last year. Fitted and seal to the garage and also removed the rear roller from the Suffolk mower to check why it was so noisy to find the pinion is knackered. New part ordered and that can sit in bits for another day when I will replace the drive belts also
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MattWll
09-06-20, 01:10 PM
Today I burned tires and changed tires on my bike.
So after a somewhat hairy ride to the stealers for recalls on the gsxr I got the dreaded phone call, we have done the work but.....
It appears the scumbags who stole it last year bent the disc in their attempts to remove the disc lock and it was pushing the pistons back in the caliper.[emoji35]
Bike delivered back with nice new brake master cylinder and updated reg/rec so now up on stands and front axle and calipers loosened whilst I await new discs and pads being delivered
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garynortheast
09-06-20, 05:23 PM
It appears the scumbags who stole it last year bent the disc in their attempts to remove the disc lock and it was pushing the pistons back in the caliper.[emoji35]
Bike delivered back with nice new brake master cylinder and updated reg/rec so now up on stands and front axle and calipers loosened whilst I await new discs and pads being delivered
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Ratbags. :-( That’s not going to be cheap Andy.
Ratbags. :-( That’s not going to be cheap Andy.No best part of 300 quid, but dealer wanted 240 plus VAT for one disc and pads then labour on top.
Luckily got a surprise bonus from work at the end of the financial year but that was money that was going to new leathers once I'd shed a bit more timber [emoji23]
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Adam Ef
10-06-20, 07:51 AM
Removed front brake pads on the CRF, filed them down a bit as they looked very glassy and checked the caliper for leaks etc. All back together and there is a very slight improvement, but engine braking still slows this bike quicker than the brakes do! Front and rear are pretty much non-existent. Both the same type of Nissin pads, so swapping out for some EBC on the front as soon as they arrive. Will flush through the brake fluid too and if there's still no improvement it's on to braided lines.
Great fun little bike but scary as hell around traffic. Certainly teaches you to think well ahead and slow before you need to brake. I'm fairly sure it's not meant to be that bad though!
Sean_Morgan
12-06-20, 03:17 PM
Wasn't 100% happy with the first set of mini indicators, I think that the Oxford clear lenses ones look lots better.
Got the front Venhill braided lines on and bled up too, just the rear to dohttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200612/5aa788966a6bfb955a88e184c8539a62.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200612/14ec02dd42b69646dc074065d959f07f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200612/92925b869982a1fc0a5f79a1c504ce4b.jpg
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Dave20046
12-06-20, 03:43 PM
Option 2, miles better.
Dave20046
12-06-20, 03:44 PM
Weirdly I don't think I've ever seen allen head banjo bolts...
Sean_Morgan
12-06-20, 04:02 PM
Weirdly I don't think I've ever seen allen head banjo bolts...Me neither but that's what came with the kit [emoji848][emoji848]
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Dave20046
12-06-20, 04:22 PM
Me neither but that's what came with the kit [emoji848][emoji848]
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They look nicer if anything, just don't over tighten them!
Sean_Morgan
12-06-20, 04:24 PM
They look nicer if anything, just don't over tighten them!23Nm as per the Haynes manual [emoji106]
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Adam Ef
12-06-20, 08:25 PM
Trying to sort out fork sticktion on the CRF250L. I'm not sure if it's just the long travel suspension and the way the forks sit, but it definitely feels like sticktion, packing down braking into corners and not coming back up affecting the handling. Adding grease and pumping the forks to regrease the seals hasn't helped much. Got a feeling it might be new seals time. Hoping it's that and nothing more serious.
Trying to sort out fork sticktion on the CRF250L. I'm not sure if it's just the long travel suspension and the way the forks sit, but it definitely feels like sticktion, packing down braking into corners and not coming back up affecting the handling. Adding grease and pumping the forks to regrease the seals hasn't helped much. Got a feeling it might be new seals time. Hoping it's that and nothing more serious.It's the damping adjustable? Too much rebound damping combined with a thick oil?
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Adam Ef
13-06-20, 05:40 PM
Nothing is adjustable unfortunately. I doubt the oil has been changed from the factory 5wt added 8 years ago.
shiftin_gear98
13-06-20, 06:28 PM
Today I have spent way longer than I expected swapping out my rear tyre on the GSXR, so long I ran out of time to do the front. It should have been an easy job. Remove rear brake, check. Undo axle nut, check. Remove spindle, not a furkin chance. Completely seized solid, it took a lot of persuading to get it to budge. Mostly of the not very gentle kind. It can't have been removed in years. I was quite relieved when it finally budged. Spend a while removing all the corrosion from most surfaces. It's all back together now with plenty of grease and copperslip.
At least the front should be easier as I know it was removed in October when the fork had its epic service.
dirtydog
13-06-20, 07:18 PM
Me neither but that's what came with the kit [emoji848][emoji848]
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I ordered some new Venhill hoses the other day and they came with Allen banjo bolts as well
Adam Ef
14-06-20, 05:28 PM
Checked fork alignment on the CRF to see if that's causing the stiction problems. All still the same after unfortunately so ordering new seals. Probably time for new oil anyway I imagine if the air filter is anything to judge the rest of the bike by. The one I took out today is the original Honda one. I'm surprised the engine was able to actually get any air through it.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50005291758_a8dd7d8d5c_c.jpg
Adam Ef
14-06-20, 05:32 PM
Also fitted a small SW Motech rack I got second hand. First job for it was carrying another rack that I sold to post. I'm easily amused... a rack carrying a rack :-)
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Toooldtodie
14-06-20, 06:21 PM
Why isn't it liveried up with "Deliveroo"?
And where's my curry mate? ;-)
Adam Ef
14-06-20, 06:33 PM
I aint' got time to deliver curry. Too busy doing skidz round Tesco carpark.
Craig380
14-06-20, 06:42 PM
New plugs and air filter, don't you just love how the bike feels with fresh sparkers and a clean filter?
Chris_SVS
14-06-20, 07:01 PM
Successfully erected a beach shelter (in the garden) to help keep young nephew in the shade. Lidl special but it's a great job!
Installed a very chinese looking 3 point seatbelt in above nephews trike
timwilky
16-06-20, 06:20 AM
Trying to sort out fork sticktion on the CRF250L. I'm not sure if it's just the long travel suspension and the way the forks sit, but it definitely feels like sticktion, packing down braking into corners and not coming back up affecting the handling. Adding grease and pumping the forks to regrease the seals hasn't helped much. Got a feeling it might be new seals time. Hoping it's that and nothing more serious.
Seen similar when forks are slightly bent. Do you know its full history. Has it had a little prang?
Adam Ef
16-06-20, 02:56 PM
Bought from a dealer. One previous owner. Has road biased tyres and used as a commuter by an older chap.
Adam Ef
16-06-20, 08:15 PM
Seen similar when forks are slightly bent. Do you know its full history. Has it had a little prang?
This has got me worried now. Not sure how I can tell without taking them apart and don't want to take them apart if it is a problem as I'm not sure I have any comeback with the dealer if I start doing my own work on it? Emailed them to check to see how to progress. I don't want to overhaul the forks with new bushings and seals (possibly springs too while I'm at it) and then find the problem is still there.
Sir Trev
17-06-20, 10:35 AM
Wish me luck - I need to look at Hugh's indicators this afternoon as the lefties do not work. Got home from a nice ride out yesterday to notice the repeater on the dash blinking like it was trying to induce an epileptic episode with no action on the stalks themselves. Do hope it is nothing more than a bulb/lamp*.
*insert your own preference.
Dave20046
17-06-20, 11:05 AM
This has got me worried now. Not sure how I can tell without taking them apart and don't want to take them apart if it is a problem as I'm not sure I have any comeback with the dealer if I start doing my own work on it? Emailed them to check to see how to progress. I don't want to overhaul the forks with new bushings and seals (possibly springs too while I'm at it) and then find the problem is still there.
Log the observation with them and ask if it was HPi'd
Did they offer any warranty with it? They might look into it for you if so. Surely you buy from dealers and pay the premium to cover this exact sort thing.
Adam Ef
17-06-20, 01:23 PM
The dealer has replied to me saying they think it very unlikley anything is wrong and I have to take it back to them to inspect.. which they know is a 200 mile round trip for me.
Adam Ef
17-06-20, 02:02 PM
Thoughts? ...
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shiftin_gear98
17-06-20, 02:12 PM
Stop buying things that turn into nightmares.
Adam Ef
17-06-20, 02:14 PM
If you can tell me how to predict that then I'd gladly follow your advice?
I don't have much luck. This is bought from a dealer for piece of mind, in theory.
That doesn't look great. I guess the only way to tell is a strip down.
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Adam Ef
17-06-20, 02:48 PM
Which I'm hesitant to do unless the dealer wants me to. I've been stung before doing my own investigative work and then having a dealer say I took it apart so it's my fault now. They need to be given first option in my experience. Just a pain that they are a 200 mile journey from me.
DarrenSV650S
17-06-20, 02:58 PM
That doesn't look good. What if you take the legs out, check them and if they are fkd put it all back together and take it to the dealer. They're not going to know are they? That way you don't have a wasted journey
Dave20046
17-06-20, 03:13 PM
Did you say you've already tried greasing for stiction? And have checked settings? https://dirtrider.net/forums3/threads/crf-fork-stiction-problems.63060/
Did you lodge your issue and hpi request in writing? If another mechanic finds a problem it can be charged back to the dealer to correct the issue in theory. Another garage can give you a quote/their thoughts before you decide what to do next.
I had similar a few months ago, took my chances and bought blind. Inspected it thoroughly before use and took a picture of the odo and emailed my initial report straight back to the dealer. Being 200 miles away also, they played the same card so I told them I wanted £450 parts and labour (dealer prices) or I'd be returning the bike to them for a full refund and recouping the transportation costs from them via the courts, we pretty swiftly settled on £250 which was more than enough for my local mechanic to do it.
Dave20046
17-06-20, 03:16 PM
At this point I think it's worth being optimistic that it is needing a service of the forks than them being bent. I also think it would be unlikely there will be a crash on the hpi....epecially as these sorts of bikes are often dropped away from the road but worth an ask.
See what a local reputable garage says, they should tell you that much for free...if they're decent
Adam Ef
17-06-20, 03:31 PM
I've emailed JHS to see if they can do an independent check as they're local to me. I've greased the seals and they move smoothly at all other points in the travel, so don't think the seals are the issue. You can hear scraping internally too. Bushings? Everything points to a slight bend jamming the fork at that point in the stroke.
HPI showed nothing when I checked it.
I'd be happy to pull them apart to get checked. Just don't want it to affect the 3 month warranty that the dealer gives, so need their go ahead first if possible.
Can't really check them without them being totally taken apart and top and bottom separated with seals and everything removed.
I was looking at £50 of new seals and bushings and £60 spring to improve the forks anyway and they sell regularly second hand for about £180 for the 2 legs with all internals.
Sir Trev
17-06-20, 04:28 PM
Wish me luck - I need to look at Hugh's indicators this afternoon as the lefties do not work. Got home from a nice ride out yesterday to notice the repeater on the dash blinking like it was trying to induce an epileptic episode with no action on the stalks themselves. Do hope it is nothing more than a bulb/lamp*.
*insert your own preference.
Fudge. You get the indicator lenses off a Trumpet by twisting them, which I found after using what seemed like a purpose made point for a flat-blade screwdriver lever off... At least the bulb just seemed a bit loose and it is just a tenner for a new lens.
Dave20046
17-06-20, 04:38 PM
Fudge. You get the indicator lenses off a Trumpet by twisting them, which I found after using what seemed like a purpose made point for a flat-blade screwdriver lever off... At least the bulb just seemed a bit loose and it is just a tenner for a new lens.
I bet this is why I found the lenses on my bike had been superglued on! :smt068
there is no or very little oil in those forks.
Adam Ef
18-06-20, 06:38 AM
there is no or very little oil in those forks.
That was one of my thoughts and I have some on order along with a few other bits. Waiting to open them up until I have everything together ready as it's my commuter at the moment.
gt900uk
19-06-20, 03:12 PM
New seat cover fitted as the original had a split in it.https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50022874706_40118186bf_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jdmiT1)20200619_154133 (https://flic.kr/p/2jdmiT1) by Graeme Taylor (https://www.flickr.com/photos/143183996@N04/), on Flickr
Looks good
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Sean_Morgan
19-06-20, 04:22 PM
New seat cover fitted as the original had a split in it.https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50022874706_40118186bf_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jdmiT1)20200619_154133 (https://flic.kr/p/2jdmiT1) by Graeme Taylor (https://www.flickr.com/photos/143183996@N04/), on FlickrI like that a lot [emoji106]
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Adam Ef
19-06-20, 06:16 PM
Oil etc arrived for CRF fork investigations today. Also got an email through from JHS saying they will only check the forks as part of a full service on them at £150+vat. They won't look at them taken apart as i intended to take them along to them.
New seat cover fitted as the original had a split in it.https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50022874706_40118186bf_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jdmiT1)20200619_154133 (https://flic.kr/p/2jdmiT1) by Graeme Taylor (https://www.flickr.com/photos/143183996@N04/), on Flickr
i like it apart from the chavy logo.
gt900uk
20-06-20, 08:32 AM
i like it apart from the chavy logo.
Lol, have to say I wasnt sure, but I like it. Still not lost all of my inner chav :D
Dave20046
20-06-20, 07:52 PM
Oil etc arrived for CRF fork investigations today. Also got an email through from JHS saying they will only check the forks as part of a full service on them at £150+vat. They won't look at them taken apart as i intended to take them along to them.
Hmm find an independent. Obviously no one will strip it for free but they'll give it a look over, see if it looks straight and give you an idea of their gut feeling.
Video yourself stripping them, whole continuous video - if there's no oil in there show the level and prove it, if seals are visibly perished ordisintegrated get it on camera.
The new ti bolts for the brake discs on the gsxr didn't turn up in time for the weekend [emoji26]
So I got half way through laying a new patio area in the back garden and also replaced the thumbstick in the wifes Nintendo switch controller now some chill time
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dirtydog
20-06-20, 11:07 PM
Have been sorting out all the bits for doing my bar conversion so figured if I’m swapping the brake hoses I might as well swap the callipers as well. One of the current calipers has a snapped bleed nipple so needs to be sorted really.
Time to rebuild my spare calipers...
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Sean_Morgan
21-06-20, 09:43 AM
Finally got round to replacing the bodged/buggered speed sensor https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200621/8346bac4ee8c283886222f3b13765a70.jpg
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I got the SV all together and went for a spin. It's the first ride since redoing the suspension: New linkage bearings. New-to-me, freshly serviced ZX10 shock. And new oil and springs in the front. It's like someone ironed the road. It's wonderful!
dirtydog
21-06-20, 04:37 PM
Calipers painted today, new pistons, seals, pads, pins and bolts ready to go in once the paint has dried
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DarrenSV650S
22-06-20, 07:51 PM
Made this janky OBD2 connector for the Dorsoduro thanks to some smart people on the aprilia forum, in order to find out what is causing the intermittent service lights. It gave some codes relating to the throttle sensors. I'm thinking it might have been caused by me adjusting the amount of free play on it. So I reset the codes and forced it to self learn.
Took it for a short run and no lights so far. I won't be 100% sure it is fixed until I've been out a few more times, but fingers crossed. Plus it's very useful to be able to instantly see any faults without having to go to the dealer. And it cost just £27
https://i.imgur.com/nq2uUki.jpg
Dave20046
22-06-20, 09:36 PM
Nice work Dazzla.
I fitted some Yorkshire O2 sensor correctors the other day and felt pretty proud.
Craig380
27-06-20, 09:33 PM
Checked the clearances on my Gen 3, which has just turned 15K miles. All in spec, thankfully, so good for another 15K+. Getting the rear valve cover off and replacing it was a bit of a knuckle scraper because I didn't remove the tank, but got there in the end.
Oil etc arrived for CRF fork investigations today. Also got an email through from JHS saying they will only check the forks as part of a full service on them at £150+vat. They won't look at them taken apart as i intended to take them along to them.
you need special tools to work with cartridge forks. the cost is about £100 for the tools. if you have an impact gun.
biggest mistake people make is not 'degassing/bleeding' the cartridges when they add oil. you also get the same problem with people doing the same with damper rod forks.
as long as your not stripping the cartridges down to change the valve shims then this are easier.
Adam Ef
28-06-20, 11:28 AM
I won't be doing anything with cartridges.
Looks like I won't have to go anywhere near that far. Opened up the RH fork and got 200ml of oil out of it instead of the recommended 650ml+. Suspect the LH fork will be the same.
I've got the seals, bushes and a new spring so I'll be fitting that anyway and getting it back together with the correct oil level. The slide smoothly when empty and off the bike so hoping nothing is bent.
I won't be doing anything with the cartridges.
Looks like I won't have to go anywhere near that far. Opened up the RH fork and got 200ml of oil out of it instead of the recommended 650ml+. Suspect the LH fork will be the same.
I've got the seals, bushes and a new springs so I'll be fitting that anyway and getting it back together with the correct oil level. The slide smoothly when empty and off the bike so hoping nothing is bent.
unless you have a good spring compressor its a nigilymare of a job.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Sealey-MS1824-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Suspension-Fork-Spring-Compressor-Tool-/291171668162?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10
Adam Ef
28-06-20, 03:33 PM
I've got the tools. Didn't need a fork compressor on these.
All done. Took about 2 hours.
The oil levels were very, very low both sides.
The bike feels much happier already. Returns back up after compressing the forks. Test ride needed... but it keeps chucking down torrential rain here at random moments....
Adam Ef
28-06-20, 06:01 PM
Most important tool today was the Log... (after Ghostbikes royally messed up twice trying to deliver an MX stand and eventually gave up and refunded me, without telling me.... this bit should be in the gripe thread).
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50055143966_e03d52a546_c.jpg
Reminds me of the fence post centrestand I made for my SV's
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Dave20046
28-06-20, 07:14 PM
I've got the tools. Didn't need a fork compressor on these.
All done. Took about 2 hours.
The oil levels were very, very low both sides.
The bike feels much happier already. Returns back up after compressing the forks. Test ride needed... but it keeps chucking down torrential rain here at random moments....
Nice one.Let us know how the complaint the seller goes!
Adam Ef
28-06-20, 09:05 PM
It took me a week to get a reply from them that there's nothing else they can do but take it back to look at so I have to take it a two hour trip and leave it with them. Not holding out hope.
Chris_SVS
28-06-20, 09:28 PM
When's it for sale Adam? :D
Adam Ef
29-06-20, 03:23 PM
When's it for sale Adam? :D
Might just be returned to the seller if this goes on too much.
Test ride today. Bike felt much better at first, but a quick stop to check and the new seals are pi$$ing fluid everywhere. All down the stanchions, onto the pads and disc and tyre. Sketchy test ride. Got a feeling it's the seals I got though rather than a fork problem. Although there must be a reason oil levels were so low with the last seals fitted.
I got the seals from a place that has provided wrong sized bushes in the past... twice. But they were obviously totally the wrong size both times. These seals seemed good. But obvioulsy they're not.
Dave20046
29-06-20, 04:53 PM
****ing hell
Just bung them up with super glue and top up with veg oil and give it back to the the dealer
Might just be returned to the seller if this goes on too much.
Test ride today. Bike felt much better at first, but a quick stop to check and the new seals are pi$$ing fluid everywhere. All down the stanchions, onto the pads and disc and tyre. Sketchy test ride. Got a feeling it's the seals I got though rather than a fork problem. Although there must be a reason oil levels were so low with the last seals fitted.
I got the seals from a place that has provided wrong sized bushes in the past... twice. But they were obviously totally the wrong size both times. These seals seemed good. But obvioulsy they're not.
i chased my tail for 3 seal changes before i had to swap the tubes out as the bushing in the tubes (not the stanchion) were too worn letting the stanchion rattle which cased enough play to let oil past the seals.
Adam Ef
30-06-20, 05:49 PM
This bike only has 10,00 miles on it and is only 7 years old though. I can't imagine the forks are worn out in that time.
It's starting to sour the experience of a bike that I really like though and I'm getting a bit fed up with trying to work it out and chasing the dealer too.
My other day off of the week tomorrow, so I'll be spending that doing a fork strip down again.
Adam Ef
01-07-20, 09:26 PM
Ok. So today's lesson is never copy an idiot, or it makes you an idiot.
I'm an idiot.
I'm sure it's not a good idea to admit to this. Go easy on me. :-)
You know that bit where they tell you to make sure you pay attention to which way the fork seals are around when they come out and put the new ones back in the same way? Well, don't if the person who fitted them before you fitted them the wrong way around. I thought I was second guessing myself when I fitted them, but got confused by the upside down forks (I've only done the right way up ones before.. I know they're the same really, but...). Anyway, I went against my instinct to have the seal numbers facing the outside and just put them in how the others came out. I now know that the ones previously fitted* were definitely fitted the wrong way around, probably the reason there was no oil in the forks and the front pads were useless when I got the bike (they'd been oiled by the leaking forks).
* The more I look over this bike the more I see things that the previous owner must have done himself without having much of a clue. Copper grease on loads of plastic parts (?!) is a bit of a sign of an over keen home mechanic. The air box was smeared in it too, even though the air filter was the original, never changed and letting almost no air to the engine.
You'd think the dealer might have spotted these things when they did the "service" that they include before a sold bike goes out. Hmmm.
Anyway, fork seals are now fitted the right way around. Dropped the front by 4mm too to make up for the 4mm longer spring and the bike feels great. I can now get on with the other mods I have lined up.
That's good. I'm glad you got to the bottom of it. Just goes to show how well some dealers prep their secondhand machines. I'd send them an invoice for your work.
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shiftin_gear98
02-07-20, 11:40 AM
Adam, I'm glad you fixed it.
Sounds about the same level of service my new to me Qashqai got last year from Glyn Hopkins when I picked it up. None of the things we had discussed had been done.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's just the norm now. No one gives a **** apart from the buyer.
DarrenSV650S
02-07-20, 04:34 PM
The Dorso has thrown up another code today, so it looks like the throttle demand sensor might need replaced. Which are not cheap!
I need to get it to a dealer to have a proper look at it and confirm what the problem is. Don't really have the cash for that right now so :(
SV650rules
10-07-20, 03:18 PM
Adam, I'm glad you fixed it.
Sounds about the same level of service my new to me Qashqai got last year from Glyn Hopkins when I picked it up. None of the things we had discussed had been done.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's just the norm now. No one gives a **** apart from the buyer.
Dealers have found it is cheaper not to do any work on vehicle except clean it and then deal with any problems that a small percentage of buyers may complains about afterwards .. lets face it most people have not got a clue about how cars work these days - and are happy as long as it is clean.
SV650rules
10-07-20, 03:32 PM
Changed the engine oil and filter on AL7 today - thought I would put it up on ABBA stand to do it as more clearance underneath for oil tray and bike would be level to refill it - checked level on window before draining and measured the oil that came out and a bit puzzled that including emptying the filter into measuring jug only 2500ml came out, decided to let bike down off ABBA onto side stand and see if any more came out, yup out came the missing 250ml. Put the bike back up on ABBA to refill and 2750ml took it right up to just under top line on oil level window....
£29 for 4 litres Castrol Power Racing 4T fully synth 10W40 ( cheaper than buying 3 x 1 litre ) and £8 for Hi-Q OF138 filter with free next day delivery from sportsbike shop - result....
Adam Ef
10-07-20, 07:39 PM
Dealers have found it is cheaper not to do any work on vehicle except clean it and then deal with any problems that a small percentage of buyers may complains about afterwards .. lets face it most people have not got a clue about how cars work these days - and are happy as long as it is clean.
But I had to leave it with them for a week and come back a 200 mile round trip to get it so that they could give it a full service (stamped in the book) and MOT it... all in house. Are you suggesting that they didn't service it at all? The air filter full of 7 years of crud choking the engine would back up your suggestion!
SV650rules
10-07-20, 08:01 PM
I have purchased second hand cars from main dealers, normally about 3 years old, and seen oil filters rusty on outside and black air and cabin filters, and the cars had 'full service history ' from that dealer. I think dealer went through service book and stamped spaces after it was traded in, and having a dealer MOT a vehicle before delivery is like letting school kids mark their own homework and exams...
I’ve spoken to dealers who have told me that nobody would pay for the service that’s demanded in the book and they’ll just go to the bloke that quotes for a fluid swap and calls it a service.
The result of that thinking is that everyone just does a fluid swap and calls it a service and nobody ever gets offered a full service.
If you give customers the benefit of the doubt some of them will actually pay you for a good job. But no-one gives us the option.
Not just motor trade. Happens all over. Everyone’s competing at the lowest price. [emoji853]
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Adam Ef
10-07-20, 09:35 PM
I always budget for my own oil and filter and air filter when I buy a bike, even if the history says it's been done. Often a coolant change and flush brake fluid through if it's easy enough too. That and a good general check over of the major fixings, bolts etc.
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