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Matt-EUC
08-05-14, 10:12 AM
C/O Wikipedia. "The solution was to place commonly used letter-pairs (like "th" or "st") so that their typebars were not neighboring, avoiding jams. Contrary to popular belief,[5] the QWERTY layout was not designed to slow the typist down,[6] but rather to speed up typing by preventing jams.[4][7] There is also evidence that, aside from the issue of jamming, keys being farther apart increases typing speed on its own, because it encourages alternation between the hands."

Matt-EUC
08-05-14, 10:13 AM
Also, they were altered to be arranged diagonally apart to increase distance between neighbouring keys.

ClunkintheUK
08-05-14, 10:35 AM
C/O Wikipedia. "The solution was to place commonly used letter-pairs (like "th" or "st") so that their typebars were not neighboring, avoiding jams. Contrary to popular belief,[5] the QWERTY layout was not designed to slow the typist down,[6] but rather to speed up typing by preventing jams.[4][7] There is also evidence that, aside from the issue of jamming, keys being farther apart increases typing speed on its own, because it encourages alternation between the hands."

C/O Wikipedia. "The solution was to place commonly used letter-pairs (like "th" or "st") so that their typebars were not neighboring

not keys, which are pretty close.

In fact those commonly used combinations (apart from "TH") are from the same hand, "ST", "ER", "ES", "ED" are all in the left hand. I did also say in my original post that the reason for slowing down the typist was to prevent jams. Ok that statement wasn't entirely correct, they wanted to slow down specific pairs, as these are common and will become quicker with practice, leading to jams, I do take that point.

ClunkintheUK
08-05-14, 10:36 AM
Also, they were altered to be arranged diagonally apart to increase distance between neighbouring keys.

Yes, i.e. to prevent hitting two at the same time.

L3nny
08-05-14, 10:38 AM
This was on QI last night, co-incidence?

ClunkintheUK
08-05-14, 10:41 AM
This was on QI last night, co-incidence?

haha, was it? Or it could be that I am a researcher for QI. This particular bit I got argued down by my colleagues.

Luckypants
08-05-14, 10:57 AM
I thought they were referred to as cannon too, because they were pretty big. I was remembering a story from way back when we went to the Imperial War Museum as a kid.

In this instance, cannon fired explosive rounds as opposed to bullets.

Also you may have something about the belts, as I have discovered that Martin-Baker (they of the ejector seat fame) developed a belt feed system for the cannon in 1941 which was known as the MKII. I cannot find anything about the length of ammunition belts. The MKII was not fitted to the Spitfire due to space problems in the thin wing of that aircraft. Later Hurricanes were fitted with four such cannon. The cannon were less reliable than the Brownings in these installations. So these belt fed cannons did not see widespread service until the introduction of the Typhoon in 1941, intended as a replacement for the Hurricane.

ClunkintheUK
08-05-14, 11:03 AM
You, Sir, are a nerd. In a good way. though if they were not widespread, it is unlikely that the phrase would have entered the lexicon.

Though perhaps if they were unreliable, giving someone the whole 9 yards would be note worthy, in that you managed to fire them before the mechanism jammed. I doubt it, but I'd love to save the story.

ophic
08-05-14, 11:08 AM
The cannon were less reliable than the Brownings in these installations.
I thought the pilots just hated them because the convergence point was dictated to be set too far away for them to hit anything.

Luckypants
08-05-14, 11:18 AM
In both installations the main problem was with icing of the cannon at altitude, leading to jamming. In the Spitfire they mounted the gun on it's side which led to mechanical jamming in dog-fight manoeuvres. Hence the reliability issues. I believe the 'cone of fire' convergence was further out than with the brownings but due to the heavier fire power it was less critical to have all the projectiles hitting one spot. As later aircraft were designed to accommodate these weapons, both problems were overcome.

These issues were mainly present in wing mounted applications forced on the designers by a single engine 'blocking' the fuselage. On aircraft such as the Mosquito or Beaufighter they were mounted in the nose and were very effective.

ophic
08-05-14, 11:22 AM
On aircraft such as the Mosquito or Beaufighter they were mounted in the nose and were very effective.
Good that the guns were, cos the planes weren't :rolleyes:

yorkie_chris
08-05-14, 11:34 AM
These issues were mainly present in wing mounted applications forced on the designers by a single engine 'blocking' the fuselage. On aircraft such as the Mosquito or Beaufighter they were mounted in the nose and were very effective.

Mosquito cannon were in the bomb bay, with browning .303s in the nose.

Believe they'd sussed most of these issues by later in the war in the typhoon and tempest, ending up with a pretty formidable attack aircraft.

Luckypants
08-05-14, 12:20 PM
Of course you are correct Chris.

DJFridge
08-05-14, 10:39 PM
Good that the guns were, cos the planes weren't :rolleyes:

Um, the Beaufighter might have been a bit of an aeronautical dullard but the Mosquito was a fantastic aircraft, probably the first true fighter/bomber. The sad thing is that, because of the canvas and wood construction, they virtually all rotted away long before the current wish to preserve bits of the past.

ophic
09-05-14, 08:23 AM
Um, the Beaufighter might have been a bit of an aeronautical dullard but the Mosquito was a fantastic aircraft, probably the first true fighter/bomber. The sad thing is that, because of the canvas and wood construction, they virtually all rotted away long before the current wish to preserve bits of the past.
Yeah I was waiting for someone to bite on that. Some loved them, but it was primarily designed to be fast, and never quite had the edge it was supposed to due to rapidly advancing fighter tech.

Except as a night fighter, where it excelled.

Obviously this isn't my opinion, just something I read about 20-odd years ago.

Some say the Bf 110 was the best twin engined aircraft around at the time...

yorkie_chris
09-05-14, 01:20 PM
Some say the Bf 110 was the best twin engined aircraft around at the time...

They'd be wrong, the mossie outclassed it in basically all regards. Another few years of development and an extra 800hp will do that.



On the sort of track of aeronautics and progress, Sir Sydney Camm, a prolific engineer responsible for the Hurricane among many others, started off building free flight gliders when mans first powered flight had barely been made. His career spanned the era from biplanes made of wood and string to supersonic jets. It's amazing to imagine looking back on a career like that, seeing so much change and being part of a lot of it.

davepreston
09-05-14, 03:56 PM
well as were on the subject
the new strike fighter made and designed for the americans went into production 4 years ago, 3 years ago the found they could not use them on aircraft carriers (which was the main design brief) because the location of the arrest arm meant upon landing it ripped the undercarriage off , the best bit is they only found this out when running the simulations the year after they started building it even tho they had the specs 4 years previously

Amadeus
11-05-14, 10:25 AM
Ireland drinks more tea than any other nation on earth. Not per head of population, on a country basis.

ClunkintheUK
13-05-14, 01:47 PM
On the subject of drinking.

Gin was originally added to tonic water to make it more palatable, not the other way round.

Berlin
13-05-14, 03:22 PM
When they were trying to increase the speed of production of Spitfires in the war, they realised going to dome head rivets instead of flat rivets would save significant time. To test how this would perform in the air, they glued split peas to every flat rivet on a Spitfire.

It lost 7 mph due to the extra drag. The idea was cancelled as that 7mph advantage over the Messerschmitt was deemed its primary advantage.

C

ophic
13-05-14, 06:03 PM
When they were trying to increase the speed of production of Spitfires in the war, they realised going to dome head rivets instead of flat rivets would save significant time. To test how this would perform in the air, they glued split peas to every flat rivet on a Spitfire.

It lost 7 mph due to the extra drag. The idea was cancelled as that 7mph advantage over the Messerschmitt was deemed its primary advantage.

C

I thought they used the split peas to discover which rivets had a major
affect on drag and then used the flush rivets on those only. Was it Ginger Lacey who did this?

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ophic
13-05-14, 06:03 PM
Or Alex Henshaw?

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Heorot
02-07-14, 08:25 AM
well as were on the subject
the new strike fighter made and designed for the americans went into production 4 years ago, 3 years ago the found they could not use them on aircraft carriers (which was the main design brief) because the location of the arrest arm meant upon landing it ripped the undercarriage off , the best bit is they only found this out when running the simulations the year after they started building it even tho they had the specs 4 years previously

They have now found that the efflux from the jet pipe on the STOL version of the strike fighter is so hot that it causes the ships deck to warp. Theyare still looking for solutions. Same problemwith the V22 and that has 2 engines causing the damage.

davepreston
03-07-14, 09:00 PM
They have now found that the efflux from the jet pipe on the STOL version of the strike fighter is so hot that it causes the ships deck to warp. Theyare still looking for solutions. Same problemwith the V22 and that has 2 engines causing the damage.
this does not surprise me lol

Shawthing
27-08-14, 08:11 PM
Some (I suspect Spurs and Chelsea fans) have speculated that every time Aaron Ramsey (Arsenal) scores a goal, a Celebrity dies within hours.

So Far:
Osama bin Laden
Whitney Houston
Paul Walker (fast & furious)
Muammar Gaddafi
Steve Jobs
Robin Williams
Sir Richard Attenborough.

Heorot
09-11-14, 09:54 PM
On 9th November 1799 Napoleon Bonaparte participated in a coup and declared himself dictator of France.

Grant66
01-12-14, 05:36 PM
Barry Scott from the cillit bang ads is really called Neil Burgess

Shawthing
06-12-14, 04:31 PM
Some (I suspect Spurs and Chelsea fans) have speculated that every time Aaron Ramsey (Arsenal) scores a goal, a Celebrity dies within hours.

So Far:
Osama bin Laden
Whitney Houston
Paul Walker (fast & furious)
Muammar Gaddafi
Steve Jobs
Robin Williams
Sir Richard Attenborough.

Oh dear. He's just scored the second goal against Stoke!

BanannaMan
08-12-14, 03:01 AM
The song 'Away in a Manger' is played to a different melody in the US.

andrewsmith
08-12-14, 08:46 AM
The song 'Away in a Manger' is played to a different melody in the US.
Yeah it's played to Slayer ;-)

punyXpress
16-12-14, 09:54 PM
One hundred years ago today, the German Navy bombarded Scarborough, Whitby and Hartlepool.
Contrary to rumour, I wasn't there, neither did I take the picture.The wife of the owner of this shop in Prospect road was killed and my aunt, who lived in the same street received a relatively minor injury.

http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss267/punyXpress/b1fd1695-f499-4f6e-bf79-66777e4691fa.jpg (http://s582.photobucket.com/user/punyXpress/media/b1fd1695-f499-4f6e-bf79-66777e4691fa.jpg.html)

Amadeus
17-12-14, 10:46 AM
The song 'Away in a Manger' is played to a different melody in the US.


It was actually composed in Newcastle and was originally called "wey aye in a manger".

Brettus
19-12-14, 08:07 AM
The term "Pot hole" comes from the fact that 18th-century potters routinely dug clay right out of the roads.
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/china-and-dinnerware/staffordshire

BanannaMan
13-01-15, 01:58 AM
Today in 1963 Charlie Watts played his first gig with the Rolling Stones at the Ealing Club in west London.

BanannaMan
12-03-15, 03:23 AM
Selfridges in London has the world’s largest women’s shoe department.
It stocks more than 100,000 shoes at any given time and sells more than 7,000 pairs per week.

(I'm glad my wife doesn't shop in London)

Trev B
09-05-15, 08:32 AM
If you swim 5 miles a day, by the end of the week you'll be 35 miles away!!!

Trev B
09-05-15, 08:58 AM
Honda have sold over 87 million cubs (honda 50)!!!

swaffle
09-05-15, 07:14 PM
Anyone can be forgiven to liking/listening to the Kelly Clarkson Song, Heartbeat song... becauseeeee if you listen to the tune and the chorus tune... ring any bells? Jimmy Eat World - The Middle

BOOM Mind is blown

Bibio
09-05-15, 07:31 PM
Anyone can be forgiven to liking/listening to the Kelly Clarkson Song, Heartbeat song... becauseeeee if you listen to the tune and the chorus tune... ring any bells? Jimmy Eat World - The Middle

BOOM Mind is blown

but both are shizz

swaffle
09-05-15, 07:35 PM
Jimmy Eat World shizz?! wash your typing fingers for typing that (best way I could write that without extra questions coming into it)

L3nny
09-05-15, 08:49 PM
Anyone can be forgiven to liking/listening to the Kelly Clarkson Song, Heartbeat song... becauseeeee if you listen to the tune and the chorus tune... ring any bells? Jimmy Eat World - The Middle

BOOM Mind is blown

All songs are the same tune anyway

5pidokakU4I

BanannaMan
10-06-15, 05:19 AM
Today is the day Marty McFly goes to the future!



http://40.media.tumblr.com/a3dd0ffc9948d6256af90703dc035abe/tumblr_nnk4ugiZMF1sm1qloo1_500.jpg

Ok techniclly speaking it may actually be yesterday now.

ophic
10-06-15, 09:26 AM
Today is the day Marty McFly goes to the future!



http://40.media.tumblr.com/a3dd0ffc9948d6256af90703dc035abe/tumblr_nnk4ugiZMF1sm1qloo1_500.jpg

Ok techniclly speaking it may actually be yesterday now.
I'm confused. Today is the 10th, yesterday was the 9th and that picture says the 6th. And Marty went to October 21st...

L3nny
10-06-15, 10:50 AM
Handy website for when these weekly hoaxes appear, in that one they didn't even photoshop the numbers in the same colour!

http://istodaythedaymartymcflyarriveswhenhetravelstothefu ture.com/

BanannaMan
10-06-15, 12:39 PM
:oops: Oops

L3nny
10-06-15, 02:36 PM
:oops: Oops

Pretty obvious really, have you seen anyone walking around with a double tie on today? ;)

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/bttf/images/1/19/Mockfry.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20071115062411

punyXpress
09-08-15, 10:17 AM
Seventy years ago today, the second A-bomb was dropped, this time on Nagasaki.
Surprised these earth moving ( in more ways than one ) events have not yet been mentioned. They, probably more than any other, have shaped the world we live in more than anything since.

Amadeus
09-08-15, 11:03 AM
What about the pill?

punyXpress
26-10-15, 10:23 AM
Agincourt

punyXpress
22-12-15, 05:03 PM
Today is the 50th anniversary of the 'temporary' 70mph limit

punyXpress
29-01-16, 10:56 PM
Final Land Rover Discovery constructed this day. :(

Red ones
29-01-16, 11:32 PM
:(
Always wanted to buy me a new one and now they stop making them before I get there

tinpants
30-01-16, 12:13 AM
Defender. It was the last Defender.

andrewsmith
30-01-16, 08:53 PM
Buy one and jam a V8 in it. Ideally an supercharged jag motor

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Heorot
07-02-16, 09:16 PM
British Airship R.101 Crashes, Killing 48 – This Day in 1930

Toooldtodie
04-03-16, 06:44 PM
A Japanese supercomputer with 705,024 processor cores and 1.4 million GB of RAM to process the data, took 40 minutes to process a single second of human brain activity.

Surely most people could get by with a Commodore 64 and the time it takes to mash a cup of tea to do the same? Or does it just appear to be so?

punyXpress
05-03-16, 10:53 AM
This day in 1936:
At 16.35, first flight of K5054, prototype Spitfire

http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss267/punyXpress/070508c1-0c19-4521-9175-3ed91a627284.jpg (http://s582.photobucket.com/user/punyXpress/media/070508c1-0c19-4521-9175-3ed91a627284.jpg.html)

punyXpress
04-05-16, 08:22 AM
. . be with you.

Heorot
12-05-16, 12:00 AM
In 1812 British Prime Minster Spencer Perceval is shot by a bankrupt banker in the lobby of the House of Commons.

Heorot
20-06-16, 04:14 PM
This day in 1837 the 18-year-old Victoria is crowned Queen of England

ClunkintheUK
25-07-16, 09:19 PM
Each Saturn V rocket required a total of 55000 bhp of fuel pumps to supply the required 190,000 litres of fuel per minute to the rocket. This is equivalent to 857 sv650's.

Heorot
29-07-16, 10:15 AM
On this day in 1588, the English navy defeated the Spanish Armada at the Battle of Gravelines.

punyXpress
30-07-16, 08:30 AM
Surprised nobody has yet mentioned a certain game of football that took place 50 years ago . .

Heorot
31-07-16, 02:18 PM
This day in 1981 Prince Charles married Lady Diana Spencer. That worked out well!

punyXpress
26-08-16, 08:49 AM
2500 years ago a slave call girl from Sardinia named Gedophamee (pronounced
Get-offa'-me) was attending a great athletic festival in Greece.

This festival had no name.

In those days the athletes performed naked (believe it or not).
To prevent unwanted arousal while competing, the men imbibed freely on drink
containing saltpeter before and throughout the variety of events.

At the opening ceremonial parade, Gedophamee observed the first wave of naked
athletic males marching toward her and she exclaimed: "Oh! Limp *****s!"

Over the next two and a half millennia that expression morphed into "Olympics".
Just thought I'd share this new found knowledge with you.

You're very welcome

Trev B
26-08-16, 09:17 AM
Like it !!!

punyXpress
29-04-17, 07:44 PM
29 April 1942 the Germans inflicted their Baedeker Raid on York.
Bar Convent was severely damaged, but not as much as Sir Ralph Wedgwood:

Heorot
30-04-17, 02:18 PM
This day in 1945, Adolf Hitler committed suicide.

punyXpress
14-08-17, 09:33 AM
50 years ago, H M Gov banned offshore pirate radio.Have somewhere a photo of Radio 270 which sailed out of Scarborough but it's lost somewhere in the puny archive of fame!
This action led to the start of Radio 1

Heorot
01-04-18, 02:48 PM
On this day in 1918 the Royal Air Force was founded by merging the Royal Flying Corps and the Royal Naval Air Service. It was the first independent Air Force in the world.

punyXpress
08-04-18, 07:47 PM
8th April 1968
Barbara Jane Harrison, aged 22, was a flight attendant on Flight 712 to Sydney, Australia from Heathrow. Within a minute from takeoff number 2 engine on the Boeing 707 caught fire and fell from the port wing. Within 2.5 minutes the plane landed back at Heathrow. The fire was beyond control and passengers were being evacuated. Due to an escape chute partial failure, Jane was the only person helping at the rear escape door including literally pushing passengers out. Eventually there were just four, including a disabled person in a wheelchair, out of over 200 but she still didn't save herself - she stayed at her post.
For her selfless and heroic action, she was posthumously awarded the George Cross, one of only 4 women to receive it, the youngest and the only one in peacetime.

punyXpress
14-04-18, 08:40 AM
Enoch Powell - remember him?

Tom_the_great
22-05-18, 03:19 PM
Hello Folks, I'm going to try and keep this going and post some lighter hearted facts (as we have more than enough rubbish from the news).

On this day In 1946 George Best, former Northern Ireland and Manchester United football player was born. When he was once asked what happened to the money he had earned, Best replied - 'I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.'

Tom_the_great
23-05-18, 08:00 AM
In 1956 The first large-scale nuclear power station was opened at Calder Hall, Cumbria.

It was decommissioned today 23rd May after producing electricity for almost 50 years

Tom_the_great
25-05-18, 08:25 AM
The smallest penguin on the planet is only 16 inches tall...

Which is only an inch taller then a standard bowling pin!

Heorot
09-08-18, 01:49 PM
In this day in history “Bockscar” left the island of Tinien and dropped “Fat Man” on Nagasaki.

Heorot
09-08-18, 01:50 PM
In this day in history “Bockscar” left the island of Tinien and dropped “Fat Man” on Nagasaki.

punyXpress
21-10-18, 04:34 PM
This day in 1805 the English Navy defeated the combined French and Spanish Navies at the Battle of Trafalgar.
The news of the victory was conveyed to Falmouth aboard HMS Pickle and from there by a relay of post chaise and four to the Admiralty in London.
This arrived in the early hours of 6th November.
. . if only they'd had a mobile signal!
and what a good Bank Holiday Trafalgar Day would be!

Heorot
06-08-19, 03:03 PM
Paul Tibbets, the commander of Enola Gay, drops the first atomic bomb on Hiroshima, Japan.

gadget
10-12-20, 08:11 AM
The older I get, the faster I was .... fact !

Bibio
06-01-22, 10:44 PM
really good house insulation works both ways.. the rad is off in my bedroom as i cant stand a warm/hot bedroom when sleeping and the room is a good 10c cooler then the rest of the house which is around 20-25c

Craig380
08-01-22, 05:00 PM
George Martin produced two singles by Paul Raven (aka Gadd, aka Gary Glitter) in the early 60s. However, Martin never used to blither on about those at great length, oddly.

garynortheast
08-01-23, 07:43 PM
Why people have good ideas in the shower! (https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/history-and-civilisation/2022/08/the-science-of-why-you-have-great-ideas-in-the-shower)