The Cycling Thread

[Ch00]

Good effort, that's a fair amount of climbing over that distance, we popped over to Kent last week, you've got some good hills there, I wish we had some proper hills over here in Essex..

Cheers, after today your welcome to one and drag it back!!!

[Dipper]

Cheers, after today your welcome to one and drag it back!!!

Lol I'll send some earth movers over, if you've got a GPS there's an Org Strava group (http://www.strava.com/clubs/sv650-org) to share your rides...

[punyXpress]

Sorry it's late ( & North of the Border)
" SPORT: The Adventure Show
On: BBC 2 Scotland (02)
Date: Sunday 3rd November 2013 (starting in 36 minutes)
Time: 17:30 to 18:30 (1 hour long)

The Adventure Show heads to the north west for a 90-mile cycling event. The Bealach Mor includes the biggest road climb in the UK, with 2,000 feet of ascent in just six miles. In another tough challenge, we join one man on his attempt to become the first blind man to climb the Old Man of Hoy in Orkney, "

Haven't a clue whether it'll be repeated or gettable with iPlayer

[Ch00]

Anybody have any recommendations for cycling trousers? I don't quite like the look of the tights style.

[Luckypants]

Watched that as I have it on series record. Quite fancy having a do at that sportive.

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[EssexDave]

Believe I've done that road on the motorbike. I can tell you, it was hard work with an engine, let alone pedal power. Not too sure I'd fancy doing that one - although maybe worth a go next year?! Perhaps we could get an Org Group trip?

[Dipper]

Anybody have any recommendations for cycling trousers? I don't quite like the look of the tights style.

You may as well give in now :p ... these are the ones to go for. (http://www.wiggle.co.uk/dhb-vaeon-roubaix-padded-bib-tight-pack-of-2/)

[Ch00]

You may as well give in now :p ... these are the ones to go for. (http://www.wiggle.co.uk/dhb-vaeon-roubaix-padded-bib-tight-pack-of-2/)


Hrmmmmm not quite the look I was going for. Will keep to shorts and peddle faster :D

[EssexDave]

Have to agree - they are THE ones to go for. Fantastically warm, comfy and not a bad price.

Get a pair of baggy running shorts over the top if you must.

[apchara]

anyone want to buy my road bike, 2008 specialized langster in chrome, carbon seatpost easton stem, 105 brakes, running 50-16 singlespeed, recent hub service and headset

any interest? if so ill get pics, can ship to buyer as well

[Luckypants]

Believe I've done that road on the motorbike. I can tell you, it was hard work with an engine, let alone pedal power. Not too sure I'd fancy doing that one - although maybe worth a go next year?! Perhaps we could get an Org Group trip? it is the Bealach na'ba road to Applecross which is quite windey but steady enough at the start to be doable. I'd be up for an org group cycle up there.



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[maviczap]

Heads up for those of you who might need some kit, Aldi have some on offer next Thursday

Looks like its had a revamp since the last lot. It is pretty good kit for the money if you haven't tried it and this new stuff looks better than before

https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/thursday-21st-november/

[Owenski]

I binned it!

Yup my second time tarmac surfing on the push iron has been experianced. This morning was all my own doing though, as I head into Leeds I have 1 roundabout which sits on the route of speedy traffic. Its a very "wait wait wait GO GO GO GO" sort of round about. As I approached I saw my chance to ride straight in, did so but as I enter my exit is at 3'o'clock by the time I'm at 12'o'clock Id carried a bit more speed than the conditions allowed :( thus down. Managed to make it from a riding position to a sliding one to back on my feet and back to the bike without either of us stopping. Righted the bike and jumped back on, it was all over in seconds and felt quite smooth lol... all apart from the hitting the floor bit that felt hard.

Sit Rep -
Bike:
Bent the RHS shifter again (same as when the taxi hit me before so I think thats just how its going to be when ever I knock it).
Bent the rear mech hanger which sucks.

Me:
Gravel licks on the RH knee,
Trousers are ruined,
Jacket may be drafty now :)

Perfect timing on the Aldi Mavi' looks like I need some more gear ASAP.

[maviczap]

I'll award a SEVEN for the fall & remount :D

At least you & the bike are relatively unscathed, is it a replaceable hanger?

If not a good shop should fix it easy enough?

I was out the other day & all the back lanes are pretty treacherous in places

[Roberrrrt]

Bloody hell matt, what is it with you and binning it?!

Hope you get sorted soon pal

Anywhooo, just came across this via twitter http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/tech/gear/129733/1/cycle-lights-group-test.html - could be quite handy this time of year.

[Owenski]

I;ll take the 7, I'm happy with that.

The strava upload, when I zoomed right in shows me as doing 19.9mph down to 5.2 up to 18.6mph as I head around and off the roundabout. hehe impressed it only dropped down to a jog, brilliant :)

The hanger is a seperate part thank god, ebay have them available for £10 so I cant gripe too much.

[Owenski]

Bloody hell matt, what is it with you and binning it?!


To be fair the first time I was knocked off.
Twice in 6 months though does sounds far more frequent than I'd have hoped.

[aaron020873]

How many lumens would make a good front road bike light for riding mainly on road unlit roads? After advice in the mtb thread i got a 6000 lumen light for my mtb which is great for off road but blinds anyone that is coming towards me (not really good when they are in a car). I still need to see where i am going though ie potholes and grids etc.
Also is there a law on how bright your light can be?

[maviczap]

Don't know, as I don't ride at night (if I can help it)

Try this guide

http://guides.wiggle.co.uk/lights-buying-guide/

[maviczap]

I'd probably go for half your MTB lights as the battery should last longer on less lumens?

[apchara]

500 plenty, moon xp500 is spot on, good spread nice light ahead to see about 5 setting and USB rechargeable
200 is OK but with the 500 you have the option of all settings

As for the law...... There is no law as yet. I've heard on the grapevine they are going to try and limit the brightness, for the blinding reasons

[Dipper]

How many lumens would make a good front road bike light for riding mainly on road unlit roads? After advice in the mtb thread i got a 6000 lumen light for my mtb which is great for off road but blinds anyone that is coming towards me (not really good when they are in a car). I still need to see where i am going though ie potholes and grids etc.
Also is there a law on how bright your light can be?

Get a couple of these (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CREE-XM-L-XML-T6-LED-1800-Lm-Bicycle-bike-Head-Light-Headlamp-Rechargeable-Head-/251288567677?pt=UK_SportGoods_CyclAcces_RL&hash=item3a81f73f7d), narrow beam so can be angled at the road in front of you, cheap as chips and very bright. I've been using these for 4 years and many others I know use them, with very few issues - the odd battery doesn't last - but at this price they are effectively disposable...

[EssexDave]

i can second the lights Dipper has recommended. They are absolutely fantastic for that cost. I have four, and no problems as yet with any of them.

On another note; I had an off this morning. Cycling into uni - hit a patch of ice on the Thames Path coming out of my flat. Bike nearly ended up a bit damp (in the Thames) although was only 2 miles an hour and a soft landing so I'm all fine!

It's getting cold - be careful out there!

[cheesypeeps]

I cycle into work at 0530 in the morning and as the darkness was getting more so I found I was struggling to see the potholes, drains etc. bought one of these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/350895210945?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&lpid=95&device=m&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=95

And I no longer have any problems. Bright enough to see clearly and I'm also confident that it's bright enough to be seen. Does only have a solid on function but I have a small cateye beside it in flashing mode as well. Just in case as a back up.

[maviczap]

Glad you're ok Dave, at least you young'ns bounce better than oldie's like me.

Its ok here today, just damp, but yesterday was lethal on the roads & paths, no sign of the gritters, even the car wheels were spinning on the ice. Good job I had the day off, otherwise it would have been turbo time.

Stay safe

[pookie]

road party 2 out http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?p=2923652#post2923652

and a good interview with martyn http://www.velouk.net/2013/12/11/feature-story-behind-martyn-ashtons-road-bike-party-2-film/

an amazing bunch of chaps

[Dipper]

Must get myself a copy...

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[Luckypants]

I had last year's. June was a good month!

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[maviczap]

I was told if I got one, I'd have to have it in the garage.:rolleyes:

I'm quite happy with that, it'd give me something to focus on when I'm on the turbo :p

[Scoobs]

Good evening chaps. Always ridden mountain bikes in the past but thinking of switching to the dark side and getting myself a road bike. Keeping the MTB so not becoming a complete poof ;)

I have a budget of around £1,200, but can be a little flexible. I'm looking at getting a carbon frame with 105 (or above) components. I've seen a Giant TCR composte 2 - 2014 model which looks nice and fits well. Any other recommendations around this level of spend and components?

Cheers all.

[maviczap]

Boardmans are always well spec'd

Build the bike to your price at Ribble

http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/bbd/road-track-bike/ribble-r872?part=BB13RIBR872&sub=conf_BBRC&bike=1

Ultegra for under a grand

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXSLPULT2/planet-x-pro-carbon-shimano-ultegra-road-bike

[Scoobs]

Thanks Mav. That Planet X is bloody good value.

[maviczap]

Yes it is, I'd pay a bit extra to upgrade the wheels as that's one place they've saved money.

[Teejayexc]

Thanks Mav. That Planet X is bloody good value.

Would be if it had an engine :D

[maviczap]

I sense the force is not strong with you young teejay.:D

[Teejayexc]

I sense the force is not strong with you young teejay.:D

Where pushbikes are concerned no it bl00dy isn't ;)

And bless you my son, been a long while since anyone called me young.

Merry Xmas. :D

[Dipper]

Good evening chaps. Always ridden mountain bikes in the past but thinking of switching to the dark side and getting myself a road bike. Keeping the MTB so not becoming a complete poof ;)

Trust me if you make it over to the dark side properly, you'll be eating those words... ;)

[Dipper]

I have a budget of around £1,200, but can be a little flexible. I'm looking at getting a carbon frame with 105 (or above) components. I've seen a Giant TCR composte 2 - 2014 model which looks nice and fits well. Any other recommendations around this level of spend and components?

Cheers all.

https://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=3239 This is fantastic value, frame is one of the best in this price bracket, proper German quality and sensible spec. too.

[maviczap]

https://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=3239 This is fantastic value, frame is one of the best in this price bracket, proper German quality and sensible spec. too.

Yes, but I suspect the frame was made in the same Taiwanese factory that every other frame that isn't hand laid.

Most carbon frames that are made are from Taiwan, as they are the experts, except for the bespoke stuff, but thats not to say they don't build good frames, because they do.

Scoobs, once you ride a full carbon frame, you'll appreciate how nice they are

[Dipper]

Yes, but I suspect the frame was made in the same Taiwanese factory that every other frame that isn't hand laid.

Most carbon frames that are made are from Taiwan, as they are the experts, except for the bespoke stuff, but thats not to say they don't build good frames, because they do.

Scoobs, once you ride a full carbon frame, you'll appreciate how nice they are

Too true, as with most frames, however R&D is the important part and I stand by the comment that it's one of the best in the price bracket.... I'm sure we all agree the frame is the most important thing to spend the money on...

[maviczap]

Yep that's right mate.

[maviczap]

I'm sure we all agree the frame is the most important thing to spend the money on...

Next is wheels, good wheels make a lot of difference

[ClunkintheUK]

I'm inclined to think wheels are more important then frame to spend the money on. Frame fit is more important then both of these put together.

I've had more joy out of new wheels then new frames. like my £300 commuter. The wheels were over half the cost and IMO make the bike my favorite to ride, that and I built the wheels myself with an unusual lacing pattern so I might be biased there.

[Scoobs]

Is this a reasonable spec? What would you change? Is Centaur a good level groupset?

Ribble R872 Carbon Road Frame 52.5cm C to top
Ribble R872 Carbon Road Forks 1 1/8"-1 1/2 ITS 45x45
Ribble R872 Headset 1 1/8" - 1 1/2" Hidden 45x45
Campagnolo 2013 Centaur Black 10 Spd Double Groupset
Campagnolo Power Torque Outboard Cups (EPS Compatible) Eng
Campagnolo Centaur Black Brakes Road
Campagnolo 10Spd Centaur UD Cassette 12-25
Campagnolo 10Spd Centaur Chain
Campagnolo Centaur Blk PT 10Spd C/Set Compact 172.5 34/50
Campagnolo Centaur Black 10Spd Double Front Gear Braze-on
Campagnolo Centaur Black 10Spd Rear Gear Short
Campagnolo P/Shift Ergos Dble Centaur Alloy Blk 10 w/cbls Blk
Mavic Pr WTS Aksium S Red Clincher ED11 Camp 700x23
ITM Triango Wing Carbon (31.8 ) Bars Black 42cm
ITM Triango Carbon (31.8 ) Stem Black 100mm
ITM Headset Spacer Carbon 1 1/8" 10mm
Selle Italia X1 Saddle (BIKE) Black
ITM Triango Wing Carbon Seatpillar Black 31.6 350mm
ITM Cork Embossed Handlebar Tape Black

[ClunkintheUK]

I've got Centaur on both my road bikes. Lovely kit. Only thing I would say against it is the bottom bracket bearings on my summer bike (Ultra Torque not Power Torque admittedly) hate the wet. damp on the road is ok, a light shower very occasionally, but I have destroyed a set of bearings in two rides in the wet. They are not sealed, so any kind of dousing and they rust and seize.

On my winter bike I have an older square taper Centaur chainset and sealed cartridge bottom bracket which gets taken out in the most horriffic of weather and still runs sweet as you like, but not as smooth or stiff in the cranks as the Summer bike.

[Scoobs]

Only thing I would say against it is the bottom bracket bearings on my summer bike (Ultra Torque not Power Torque admittedly) hate the wet. damp on the road is ok, a light shower very occasionally, but I have destroyed a set of bearings in two rides in the wet. They are not sealed, so any kind of dousing and they rust and seize.

That's a bit rubbish..! I need something for all weather. I am looking for something that is fit and forget. I am a stickler for a clean bike so the chain, sprockets etc will be spotless and lubed all the time, but I can't be doing with having to strip and regrease BB bearings. Other than that the Centaur kit "looks" really lovely.

[ClunkintheUK]

Someone my shed some light on how good Power torque BB Bearings are with water, they may have decided that they want to sell outside of Italy/Spain and have fitted sealed all weather bearings to them. They are cartridge bearings, so its replace, not strip, or have been for me. Just to say that the advantage of non-sealed bearings is they are smoother then James Bond in new suit in a casino in Monte Carlo with an evil billionairess in a silk dress. when I first fitted them I taped the cranks lightly and they just kept spinning and spinning for several minutes till I got bored.

[Dipper]

Is this a reasonable spec? What would you change? Is Centaur a good level groupset?

I've got a Veloce/Miche mix on the Winter bike, bottom spec Campy but silky smooth, compared the Dura Ace on the Summer bike feels agricultural. I've heard people complain that Campy needs constant fettling but I've not had any problems.

[Dipper]

I've got Centaur on both my road bikes. Lovely kit. Only thing I would say against it is the bottom bracket bearings on my summer bike (Ultra Torque not Power Torque admittedly) hate the wet. damp on the road is ok, a light shower very occasionally, but I have destroyed a set of bearings in two rides in the wet. They are not sealed, so any kind of dousing and they rust and seize.

On my winter bike I have an older square taper Centaur chainset and sealed cartridge bottom bracket which gets taken out in the most horriffic of weather and still runs sweet as you like, but not as smooth or stiff in the cranks as the Summer bike.

Strange, perhaps you had a bad set of bearings, the Veloce Ultra Torque on my Winter bike has gone through 3 Winters, 4500 miles and a full dunking without issue, the bike has full mudguards and mudflap though, the bearings were cleaned and re-greased after the dunking.

[maviczap]

I'm in the process of fitting Hope Bottom brackets in place of Shimano ones.

Bearing are replaceable & much better quality than OEM. Plus easy to change the bearings too.

Campag can feel a bit agricultural compare to Shimano, but I think it improves with age.

I'm not too keen on the carbon Campag, I've seen some STi's where the laquer has come off, but the alloy stuff is like old campag used to be

[maviczap]

Is this a reasonable spec? What would you change? Is Centaur a good level groupset?

Ribble R872 Carbon Road Frame 52.5cm C to top
Ribble R872 Carbon Road Forks 1 1/8"-1 1/2 ITS 45x45
Ribble R872 Headset 1 1/8" - 1 1/2" Hidden 45x45
Campagnolo 2013 Centaur Black 10 Spd Double Groupset
Campagnolo Power Torque Outboard Cups (EPS Compatible) Eng
Campagnolo Centaur Black Brakes Road
Campagnolo 10Spd Centaur UD Cassette 12-25
Campagnolo 10Spd Centaur Chain
Campagnolo Centaur Blk PT 10Spd C/Set Compact 172.5 34/50
Campagnolo Centaur Black 10Spd Double Front Gear Braze-on
Campagnolo Centaur Black 10Spd Rear Gear Short
Campagnolo P/Shift Ergos Dble Centaur Alloy Blk 10 w/cbls Blk
Mavic Pr WTS Aksium S Red Clincher ED11 Camp 700x23
ITM Triango Wing Carbon (31.8 ) Bars Black 42cm
ITM Triango Carbon (31.8 ) Stem Black 100mm
ITM Headset Spacer Carbon 1 1/8" 10mm
Selle Italia X1 Saddle (BIKE) Black
ITM Triango Wing Carbon Seatpillar Black 31.6 350mm
ITM Cork Embossed Handlebar Tape Black

The only thing I'd change is the wheels, nothing wrong with the Aksiums, but a tad heavy

If you go down the Campag route then these are quite a bit lighter, without breaking that bank

http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-track-bike/wheels-factory-built-wheels-factory-road-tri-campagnolo-vento-clincher-wheels-pair/campwhfr612

[maviczap]

Thanks Mav. That Planet X is bloody good value.

On the 30th Planet X bikes are reduced, doesn't state which bikes, but might be worth checking out.

On Saturday, wheels are reduced by 15%

http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=40fa628f0fbe316d0497b3c31&id=562c7b571d&e=ee78a86d9b

[Scoobs]

After much deliberation I have decided to go with:

Ribble R872 frame
Campag Centaur groupset
Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheels

I've cut back a bit on the finishing kit...bars, stem, seatpost etc to improve on the wheel selection (and still over budget...but budgets are there to be broken right (please support my man maths)).

I've been speaking to a few road bike riders that I know and they have good experience with the kit I've mentioned including the Ribble frame. Didn't like the look of the Planet X in the end, same reason why I've gone with the Campag kit over Shimano. I didn't like the looks of the 105 or Ultegra stuff, although I'm sure it works flawlessly. I have Shimano stuff on my MTB and it's always been great.

Just need to scrape together some funds although I am thinking I should just 0% APR it over 10 months instead of outright purchase..?

[Ch00]

Get a couple of these (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CREE-XM-L-XML-T6-LED-1800-Lm-Bicycle-bike-Head-Light-Headlamp-Rechargeable-Head-/251288567677?pt=UK_SportGoods_CyclAcces_RL&hash=item3a81f73f7d), narrow beam so can be angled at the road in front of you, cheap as chips and very bright. I've been using these for 4 years and many others I know use them, with very few issues - the odd battery doesn't last - but at this price they are effectively disposable...

How long on a full charge will you get out of it?

I need 2 hours tops.

[ClunkintheUK]

Nice. ("welcome to jazz club")

Yeah, my budget is always broken when buying a new bike. If they are giving you 0% on it, why wouldn't you finance it. Even if I had the cash sitting around I would 0% finance something if its offered, but that might just be me being an ex banker.

They do say, Shimano wears out, Campag wears in. Has roughly been my experience, but I haven't really done the miles to prove it.

[Dipper]

How long on a full charge will you get out of it?

I need 2 hours tops.

3-4 hours on full if the battery's a good un. The batteries are Li Ion which are best re-charged after each use. It's best to carry a spare battery though as the protection circuitry cuts the power when the battery runs too low.

[Ch00]

3-4 hours on full if the battery's a good un. The batteries are Li Ion which are best re-charged after each use. It's best to carry a spare battery though as the protection circuitry cuts the power when the battery runs too low.

I thank you.

[Dipper]

After much deliberation I have decided to go with:

Ribble R872 frame
Campag Centaur groupset
Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheels

I've cut back a bit on the finishing kit...bars, stem, seatpost etc to improve on the wheel selection (and still over budget...but budgets are there to be broken right (please support my man maths)).

I've been speaking to a few road bike riders that I know and they have good experience with the kit I've mentioned including the Ribble frame. Didn't like the look of the Planet X in the end, same reason why I've gone with the Campag kit over Shimano. I didn't like the looks of the 105 or Ultegra stuff, although I'm sure it works flawlessly. I have Shimano stuff on my MTB and it's always been great.

Just need to scrape together some funds although I am thinking I should just 0% APR it over 10 months instead of outright purchase..?

Very nice, great choice of wheels, you wont regret it. Interest free credit has got to be the way to go...

[EssexDave]

Mavi/Pookie - wonder whether you can help. I remember a while back you found some good deals on the Tacx trainers - well I'm game for one right now but having looked I can't find many second hand and wondered whether you'd seen any recently?

[EssexDave]

Oh also Pookie you're probably the man for this - do I need anything specifically for the computer side of thing?

[maviczap]

Mavi/Pookie - wonder whether you can help. I remember a while back you found some good deals on the Tacx trainers - well I'm game for one right now but having looked I can't find many second hand and wondered whether you'd seen any recently?

Nope none on BR recently

Here's the best deal online

http://www.acycles.co.uk/tacx-flow-home-trainer-t2200-8107.html?utm_source=google_produit_cpc&gclid=CPjtgoeT5bsCFUzHtAodvmAAfQ

Halfrauds have ordinary turbo's for £74, half price which is good.

Oh also Pookie you're probably the man for this - do I need anything specifically for the computer side of thing?

Just pay attention to the TACX spec, although my old PC seems to run the OLD software fine.

The more memory you have installed & having a reasonable graphics card makes the newer software run smoother without crashing

[EssexDave]

Wow that is a bargain Mav!I thought the Wiggle deal of £316 was cheap.

I'm still a bit confused about the software and the Tacx site is really unhelpful.

If I want to ride say, the Stelvio pass. Can I do that if it's on google maps?

[maviczap]

I think so, but Pookie is the expert.

I think you create the route on Google maps, then convert it to the correct file type for the Tacx, which then creates the route on the pc once its linked up with Google maps.

But I think you need to pay for a Google maps licence to do this?

But in the back of my mind, I think you still need to have the GPS data from a Garmin to do this?

[EssexDave]

Surely if you find a GPX from someone else, then you can steal that - must be able to find them online.

Also Mav, can I check that link you've put is that not the trainer with no software? (And so isn't VR?)

It seems to me that Tacx have been rather self defeating in their advertising and software. Apparently, it's complicated, and I can tell you - I'm confused.

The product details certainly do not make it clear enough just what it is you're getting!

[maviczap]

Yes, its the GPX data you need to recreate the route.

Ah yes, its only the basic model, but the older software is available online, but isn't the super dooper one that lets you create your own routes. I've got that on a disc.

Then only thing I think you need is the cable to connect the TACX head unit to the PC. And that's a standard printer USB cable, you just need a longer one

But maybe easier to get the full version rather than messing about with this & that

My OLD software works with my PC, doesn't need registering with TACX & works with all the Tacx RLV DVD's I've got.

[EssexDave]

I just think it's a shame the company are so rubbish at selling their product. Without being able to go and try one, it's a pretty big purchase from online. At least Wiggle have good returns policies.

Think I'll sleep on it and decide if it's worth the £316 tomorrow (or more likely wait till the first day of ice then order it) ;)

Cheers Mav!

[maviczap]

Yes, thw Wiggle price is the best I can find and it comes with the Tacx TTS4 software & steering frame.

You don't really need the steering frame, so you could sell that unused for about £75 or a bit more?

[EssexDave]

Yeah I was thinking that. I'm not THAT fussed about being able to steer, probably more of a gimmick than anything, I'm interested in decent winter training seeing as I've got slow after injury, and some serious conditioning, without the boredom of the solid state trainers that you get five settings for and off you go.

I've seen some really cool DVDs though (on Wiggle - they have four including classics and climbs)

[maviczap]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tacx-i-magic-turbo-trainer-/331099831878?pt=UK_SportGoods_CyclAcces_RL&hash=item4d17167e46

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tacx-I-Magic-Fortius-VR-Cycle-Turbo-Trainer-with-free-computer-/111249332008?pt=UK_SportGoods_CyclAcces_RL&hash=item19e6fa1728 + free PC!

[EssexDave]

Yeah seen those and watching, although suspect they will go for silly money as quite often things like this do on ebay. Will see though!

Cheers Mav.

[maviczap]

Yeah I was thinking that. I'm not THAT fussed about being able to steer, probably more of a gimmick than anything, I'm interested in decent winter training seeing as I've got slow after injury, and some serious conditioning, without the boredom of the solid state trainers that you get five settings for and off you go.

I've seen some really cool DVDs though (on Wiggle - they have four including classics and climbs)

Don't make the mistake of getting the DVD's, as they aren't the same as the RLV DVD.

The RLV DVD's increase the resistance as the effort required, the ordinary DVD's in the orange trimmed cases don't. Its just a video of the route & doesn't interact with the TTS software

[maviczap]

Yeah I was thinking that. I'm not THAT fussed about being able to steer, probably more of a gimmick than anything, I'm interested in decent winter training seeing as I've got slow after injury, and some serious conditioning, without the boredom of the solid state trainers that you get five settings for and off you go.

I've seen some really cool DVDs though (on Wiggle - they have four including classics and climbs)

The steering frame only works with the cartoon riders in simulation part of the TTS, like the velodrome below, not with the RLV

http://www.evanscycles.com/product_image/image/b0d/71f/d52/27668/product_page/tacx-i-magic-velodrome-upgrade-terrain.jpg

[EssexDave]

See what I mean - unless I've missed something this does not make it very clear...

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/tacx-fortius-i-magic-dvd-training-discs-mountains/

[maviczap]

See what I mean - unless I've missed something this does not make it very clear...

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/tacx-fortius-i-magic-dvd-training-discs-mountains/

Ah yes, I see what you mean!

[JamesMio]

Thought I'd get in on this Lycra love, just ordered myself up a wee cheap road bike (BTwin Triban 3 for those interested). Having spent all my cycling years on varying forms of mountain bikes, current road bike being an old Mtb with skinny tyres, I'm rather keen to see how a proper road bike fares.

[maviczap]

Nowt wrong with that for the price, alu frame, carbon fork. Welcome to the Lycra lout section! :) :p

[JamesMio]

Nowt wrong with that for the price, alu frame, carbon fork. Welcome to the Lycra lout section! :) :p

Thanks!

Pretty much what I thought, it's by no means as sleek or beautiful looking as some road bikes can be, but heck - I'd hardly get a set of decent wheels for that price, and if really don't like it, it'll be perfect for the turbo trainer.

[maviczap]

Yet a pretty decent frame, so if you do like it, you could upgrade the wheels & get rid of the triple chainset.

Or if the bug bites, then keep it as a winter or turbo bike.

I had two knobs pass me this morning, neither said hello, both were on their fancy bikes, no mudguards, skinny tyres. One looked down at me as I was only on my old winter Raleigh.

But I know their fancy bikes will be falling to bits after the winter whereas my trusty winter steed will serve me well & then the good bikes come out once the weather improves.

[pookie]

there seems to be a fair bit of cycling snobbery about ... I wave nod chat to anyone I ride past. With all this lycra love and general 2 wheel tom foolery it must be time for some org lycra rideout ;)

Any one fancy doing the london revolution? http://www.london-revolution.com/

[maviczap]

... I wave nod chat to anyone I ride past. With all this lycra love and general 2 wheel tom foolery it must be time for some org lycra rideout ;)

Yes, I say hello to everyone, I passed some poor old dear and gave her some encouragement as I did.

Yes, Org lycra outing sometime this year would be good. How about the Alps :D

[EssexDave]

Pookie - I'm good for that London Revolution subject to my exam timetable and will let you know.

[maviczap]

there seems to be a fair bit of cycling snobbery about ... I wave nod chat to anyone I ride past. With all this lycra love and general 2 wheel tom foolery it must be time for some org lycra rideout ;)

Any one fancy doing the london revolution? http://www.london-revolution.com/

I'd have to see what my weekend working schedule is, but I'd be interested.

At first I thought it was 185 miles in one go! :shock::shock:

[Jabba]

My new wheels arrived today - combined 50th/Crimbo pressie and poss "the last bike I'll ever buy" ;)

Dolan Tuono SL
SRAM Red 22 groupset (50/34 compact with 28/11 cogs)
Mavic Ksyrium SLS wheels
Schwalbe Ultremo ZX Evo tyres
Sam Marco Aspide saddle

<6.4kg (without pedals) :-)

Just need it to stop raining (and me to lose almost a stone to do the bike justice!) :(

[maviczap]

Bloody 'orrible ;)






Not really :santa:

[Jabba]

Expecting a few "You what?! SRAM?!!" comments but what the heck - I have some Shimano Ultegra 6800 Carbon pedals to even things out :D

Not sure those tyres will stay on long though. i had a pair of Ultremo ZX HDs a while ago and, whilst fab to ride, they weren't the best puncture-wise. I have a pair of Conti GP4000S ready and waiting. Good experiences with those :-)

Now to sell my Scott Speedster.......... :(

[EssexDave]

The SRAM stuff is the best looking, just from my very short experience of the double tab, just couldn't get on with it. I'm sure you get used to it. Campag to me is much nicer to use and Shimano have the best hoods.

Regardless, I have micro shift and sora components on my Moda at the minute, so really, I can't comment.

The Canyon I'm looking at I want the Campagnolo, but not convinced they'll do it at the price point I'm looking at which will mean Shimano Dura Ace or a Shimano Red set.

Decisions....luckily I have time to mull it over.

[Jabba]

The Canyon I'm looking at I want the Campagnolo, but not convinced they'll do it at the price point I'm looking at which will mean Shimano Dura Ace or a Shimano Red set.

SRAM Red 22 is currently the lightest groupset available. Force 22 isn't a lot heavier (mainly the crank-arms, which although carbon fibre, are not hollow like Red 22).

As I'm sure you know, if you're balancing a budget (as I was) then you'll get more bang-for-your-buck with better wheels. I decided not to go Di2 for this reason (and the weight, of course!).

Good luck with the Canyon - good value and nearly went there myself. But Terry Dolan is a Brit ;)

[Scoobs]

Super sweet set of wheels there Jabba. Although earlier on in this thread I said I'd made my mind up on a Ribble R872...I errr...actually haven't bit the bullet yet. I'm still mulling over a:

Ribble - Carbon frame - Campag Centaur group - Fulcrum Quattro wheels

or

Rose Xeon RS 4400 (2014) - Aluminium frame - SRAM Force 22 group - Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheels

Both coming in at around £1,550. Rose has better finishing kit too. Do I need carbon?

Org...help me choose.

[maviczap]

Knowing what I know now I would go for carbon every time.

The ride quality is so much nicer.

I had a aluminum framed colnago, lovely to look at, but it rattled my fillings.

[Dipper]

Summer bike Carbon every time, Winter bike not so important IMHO.

I wouldn't run my tyres over 95PSI this time of year to get any grip at all, which takes out most of the harshness.

The question is do you want to spend £1500 on a nice carbon bike to do the Winter miles on??

[maviczap]

The question is do you want to spend £1500 on a nice carbon bike to do the Winter miles on??

John's got a very good point, all those nice components are going to get trashed by the mud, salt & wet. The frame will be ok, but a winter bike is a necessity, unless you're going to be using a turbo until the weather improves.

[Dipper]

Winter's not about speed, weight and components are less important, cheaper groupsets all work well, they just weigh a bit more. Most people end up using their first bike as their Winter bike which is not really the best thing for the job. As Mav says if you're going to use it all year round then perhaps a Winter bike is the way forward.

One of the chaps in our group was looking to spend £1500 on a Carbon bike until this was pointed out to him. He's now going to buy a Ribble Audax with decent SKS mudguards (a worthwhile upgrade for Winter), a wise choice in my opinion...

[EssexDave]

My first bike was a KTM Strada 1000 which was a 54cm (stupid bike shop, I needed a 58) so this didn't get much use.

I then bought a really pretty Moda Interval Sprint with drop bars on it (once again stupid bike shop as you can't put drop bars on a TT frame and expect comfort! - live and learn) but regardless, I used this £2,000 bike through winter.

I didn't do that many miles on it over the winter, but it did get pretty bashed about with the road salt and all the wet.

I'd really recommend a decent winter bike with guards (and what I now have as my only bike).

It makes getting out much more pleasant and you don't mind so much when it's getting mucky.

[maviczap]

One of the chaps in our group was looking to spend £1500 on a Carbon bike until this was pointed out to him. He's now going to buy a Ribble Audax with decent SKS mudguards (a worthwhile upgrade for Winter), a wise choice in my opinion...

Spookey, this just arrived in my inbox

http://secure.campaigner.com/Campaigner/Public/t.show?689oi--3bwz4-ixo1lg5&_v=2

However my winter bike is a 2nd hand Raleigh, 7005 alloy frame, carbon forks withShimano sti's for just under £200, although I was lucky finding it in my local paper.

If you can afford it, buy the winter bike now and get your carbon bike later

Here's an ideal winter bike, I'm sure others will turn up on Ebay or Gumtree

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40090&t=12952890

[Dipper]

Spookey, this just arrived in my inbox

http://secure.campaigner.com/Campaigner/Public/t.show?689oi--3bwz4-ixo1lg5&_v=2

Bargain! :D

[Scoobs]

I've already got three bikes so this will be a do it all (summer and winter)...although saying that I could use my single speed for the really grotty winter rides. I got some TACX rollers that I could use the "best" bike on if I fancied riding that and the weather was grim. Does the weather really kill them off? My MTB gets proper filthy but it gets cleaned straight after a ride and that's still going strong.

I hear what you are saying about Ally, but the ROSE is really nice and it comes with a carbon post. won't that take some of the sting out?

See here for pics: http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/bike/rose-xeon-rs-4400-2014/aid:669786

[maviczap]

I hear what you are saying about Ally, but the ROSE is really nice and it comes with a carbon post. won't that take some of the sting out?

See here for pics: http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/bike/rose-xeon-rs-4400-2014/aid:669786

Yes it will, and being 27.2 it'll flex more than a larger dia seatpost, so will give a smidge more comfort.

Also the seatstays look really thin, so hopefully they'll give you some degree of comfort & compliance.

Although not the same as a full carbon frame.

Some folk don't like the dead feel of full carbon frames and would prefer a bit of road sting :D

[fizzwheel]

Does the weather really kill them off? My MTB gets proper filthy but it gets cleaned straight after a ride and that's still going strong.

Its not the mud its the road salt that does the damage as long as you wash it after every ride it'll be OK, but that gets really tedious in the winter.

If you are after a do anything bike its worth IMHO considering something you can fit mud guards onto.

[maviczap]

Planet X have stopped doing the Sportive version of my Ti frame

But here's something really lovely

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genesis-Equilibrium-Ti-Titanium-sportive-Road-Bike-54-2013-Shimano-105-groupset-/111249663257?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item19e6ff2519

Good spec & clearance for mudguards. The frame won't rot, so its only a case of replacing the components when they wear out. An all year bike

Ti is comfortable like carbon, although not the same

[maviczap]

Or this, which is meant to be the same frame as my Planet X

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LYNSKEY-Sportive-Titanium-Bike-/131086384297?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item1e855b7ca9

Its got the Campag you want Scoobs, plus the Quattro wheels. No reserve either.

Its not far from me either