The Cycling Thread

[maviczap]

Keep an eye on Bike Radar's road parts section, new cassettes come up fairly frequently

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=40091

If I see any I'll tip you off.

[kaivalagi]

Nice one, thanks

Had a quick scan through, there's a lot of volume of parts going through that forum, very good to know! Always worth checking before buying new...good job they don't have any cheaper chainsets in there otherwise I'd have been gutted! SRAM red would be a bit much!

[maviczap]

Think I bought one the other day :eye:

No, ordinary SRAM or Shimano will do you fine

[pookie]

400ml gt-85 for £1.99 in aldi ... smells nice too :)

[atassiedevil]

I buy GT-85 in bulk, its awesome stuff for everything. Even motorcycle chain lube. 36 cans at £1.77 each, can't complain, even if i reapply every couple of hundred miles.

[MisterTommyH]

So..... Miller was dropped, Cav got excited, Froome has jacked it in.....

That leaves G and Yates....

No jerseys this year :-(

[maviczap]

So in hind sight would Sky have been better off including Sir Brad in the line up, just in case Froomey stacked it?

Brads not good on wet descents, but he's good on the cobbles, he proved that earlier in the year.

Sky should have learned from 2010 when Sir Brad crashed out as their only contender.

But this is with hindsight of course

[pookie]

and also froome wouldnt have it ;) Saw froome fall.. blimey how many times can these guys roll.

I dont understand why they haven got kevlar in the fabric, as soon as they fall its a big mess ( they look like they' ve been eaten by jaws).

[maviczap]

Wasn't a good sign to see Froomey falling off on the roads, let alone the cobbles.

Hats off to Nibali, he's riding like a champ

[EssexDave]

Nibali really is riding like a champ. Over 2 minutes to Contador on a stage like today? Will be interesting to see how well he goes up - we all know how well he comes back down ;)

Real shame for Froome, I feel for the guy. He's taken such a hit on that hip so many times, I wouldn't be surprised if he's out for some time now.

[maviczap]

Real shame for Froome, I feel for the guy. He's taken such a hit on that hip so many times, I wouldn't be surprised if he's out for some time now.

Yep, when I crashed in March I landed on my hip, I knew when I got up, I knew I wasn't going to be able to ride home.

Took me 3 weeks to get back to normal. But I am old and take longer to repair.

Froome for the Vuelta?

[pookie]

its seems bizarre they dont run a 1-2 system. All that work is gone down the pan. Strange that team sky havent learnt or moved on seeing how strong their squad is.

[EssexDave]

Well Porte is a possible contender but I'm not convinced he's as good as Wiggins. I think people do overrate Wiggo mind you. He's a great rider, but he even admitted himself, he doesn't think he's a multiple tour winner and he only won because the field that year wasn't that strong.

Don't get me wrong, he's quick on stuff up to about 6-7% but on the real steep climbs, he doesn't seem to have the same staying power as Froome or Contador.

It would be good to see him going for the Vuelta and would make sense, although I guess only Team Sky know their own training plan!

[kaivalagi]

Finally got the bike in running order again after fitting the much needed external BB (to replace the old knackered power spline thing), along with new chainset (Sram Apex) to work with it, chain, rear cassette (11-25) and nice new pedals

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy91/kaivalagi/Scratch/DSC_0173_zpsydpx3wmo.jpg

Next is new road tyres and maybe some decent shoes to use the spd side of the pedals :) Any recommendation for either? I don't want to spend more than £15-20 on a tyre or £60 on shoes.

[Dipper]

Conti Gatorskins should fit the bill nicely, get the folding version if you can wire beads are heavier and more difficult to fit.

[kaivalagi]

I was thinking something with a little more tread for all weathers, but not as much as my trail tyres that slow me down? Is it the case that any of the contis are good for puncture proofing and mile munching? Thinking more like the Contact II Reflex ones in 28mm

http://media1.roseversand.de/product/370/1/7/1712333_2.jpg

[Dipper]

The only use for tread on a bike tyre is grip on loose surfaces, water makes no difference as there's no chance of aquaplaning. I've no little experience of commuting/touring tyres... these do have the same puncture protection as the Gatorskins but come a hefty weight premium.

[kaivalagi]

Thanks for the advice, I'll take a look about for best prices / deals etc on the Gators, so far > £25...

[carelesschucca]

So how many of you guys have been watching The Tour?

I've been watching it avidly for years, that and The Giro, my god it makes me wanna take up riding a push iron (he says smoking a fag and drinking a beer)

My real question is how good are the roads they've been riding for taking a motorbike up and along, some of the roads on the stages between 8 and yesterday's stage look brilliant.

[maviczap]

Thanks for the advice, I'll take a look about for best prices / deals etc on the Gators, so far > £25...

Agree with Dipper on Gatorskins especially as they stick well to the road with the Black Chilli compound.

So how many of you guys have been watching The Tour?

I've been watching it avidly for years, that and The Giro, my god it makes me wanna take up riding a push iron (he says smoking a fag and drinking a beer)

My real question is how good are the roads they've been riding for taking a motorbike up and along, some of the roads on the stages between 8 and yesterday's stage look brilliant.

I've watched it since the 1980's when I first appeared on World of Sport :cool:

As for the roads you'd hate them, really really boring, nothing to see crap views, hairpin bends for miles and not many cars, so not great really ;)

[Dipper]

Thanks for the advice, I'll take a look about for best prices / deals etc on the Gators, so far > £25...

You can get wire bead for around £20 but it really is worth the extra for folders if you can stretch to it. Top tip for riding in the wet or Winter, drop the tyre pressures by 5-10 PSI to give a bit more rubber on the road.

[EssexDave]

You can get wire bead for around £20 but it really is worth the extra for folders if you can stretch to it. Top tip for riding in the wet or Winter, drop the tyre pressures by 5-10 PSI to give a bit more rubber on the road.

But not too much or you'll increase the chance of punctures!!

Definitely go for the folding option. They are hard enough to put on as it is!

[pookie]

you guys should try tubeless wire bead mtb tyres for fun :)

Luckily havent had any problems with the tubed road wheels tyres.

[Brettus]

I'm stuck with a crisis of conscience again. I've got my mountain bike that I've put some slick tyres on and it is much better for my pretty flat circuit that I do. I just find I'm running out of gears (I know I've been round the houses on this before and the resounding answer seems to be "pedal faster" but the guys that are doing the laps faster than me are pedalling slower!) I keep wondering what I could do with a road bike. I can't find anywhere that rents them, all cycle hire places I can find seem to hire generic mountain bikes.

Ideally I want to try out one of them by doing a lap of my circuit on one but do cycle shops offer demo bikes? none of the websites really suggest so.

I'd be game for investing say £300 in a road bike to try (it will get used 1-2 times a week for likely the same circuit, I don't currently plan to take to open roads as I hate traffic)
is this a reasonable aim to try out a road bike (or is it a case of the optimal value for money point is closer to £800 or something before you start getting into the law of diminishing returns) and I'm assuming the smart money would be on second hand to minimise losses if/when I come to sell it on (either through lack of use or upgrading (heaven forbid)) I realise I'm at peak time now so I'd lose some anyway.

I'm torn, sense says I should just STFU and ride what I've got to my ability but there is part of me that says I could do better (and feel better) if I had something better.

As usual any thoughts and advice appreciated.

[Kenzie]

Hi Brettus, I picked up one of these recently, great bike plus it's light and has disk brakes.

http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/hybrid-bikes/carrera-gryphon-hybrid-bike-2011-2012-large-21

[Ch00]

Try Evans cycles they offer demos on all bikes.

[MisterTommyH]

Just took the bike out for a short spin to use the hose at my folks and thought I'd be lazy and not wear helmet, padded shorts or spds.

It's a mile off-road, so the helmet was probably stupid, but lack of it did decrease my confidence.

Padded shorts.... didn't really have much effect over that distance.

SPDs - oh my god.... so easy to slip off the pedals without them (i have reversible pedals). I'm thinking now that I'll probably never use the non-spd side, so might aswell swap them over for dual spd to save the hassle of having to get them set the right way every time i clip in.

And Evans do offer a free demo on all bikes, but you have to put down a £50 fully refundable deposit. Wasn't an issue for me, but some people don't like this.

[punyXpress]

le Tour still alive and well yesterday at Middlesmoor ( near Cray ) in Yorkshire Dales: . . .

http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss267/punyXpress/P1050233.jpg (http://s582.photobucket.com/user/punyXpress/media/P1050233.jpg.html)

. . . all downhill from now.

[kaivalagi]

I'm stuck with a crisis of conscience again. I've got my mountain bike that I've put some slick tyres on and it is much better for my pretty flat circuit that I do. I just find I'm running out of gears (I know I've been round the houses on this before and the resounding answer seems to be "pedal faster" but the guys that are doing the laps faster than me are pedalling slower!) I keep wondering what I could do with a road bike. I can't find anywhere that rents them, all cycle hire places I can find seem to hire generic mountain bikes.

Why not get a new rear cassette a few less teeth on the sprockets and/or larger rings for the chainset? Chances are you'd still have the lower gears you may want anyway and have the higher gears you need....How many miles has your bike done? Would it be up for a fresh new drive train at some point soon anyway?

Or...if you want to try out a roady do you not have someone you can steal one off for a whizz around the block before commiting to anything?

I went for a hybrid and found the lower gears were too low so went for a lower teeth count on the back, and although I'll struggle to use the 2 highest gears in near enough any situation (waiting to see once I have replaced the trail tyres though) I find it much better for me and my commute having closer ratio higher gears to work through etc

[maviczap]

Why not get a new rear cassette a few less teeth on the sprockets and/or larger rings for the chainset? Chances are you'd still have the lower gears you may want anyway and have the higher gears you need....How many miles has your bike done? Would it be up for a fresh new drive train at some point soon anyway?

Or...if you want to try out a roady do you not have someone you can steal one off for a whizz around the block before commiting to anything?

I went for a hybrid and found the lower gears were too low so went for a lower teeth count on the back, and although I'll struggle to use the 2 highest gears in near enough any situation (waiting to see once I have replaced the trail tyres though) I find it much better for me and my commute having closer ratio higher gears to work through etc

Yes, this is the simpler solution.

I can't remember what bike you have Brett, so post a pic of your chain & rear sprockets, so I can advise.

Most MTB chainsets are going to probably have a big chain wheel of about 42 teeth.

Rear cassette between 32 or 36 teeth, way to big for slick tyred MTB.

To up the gearing you'll need to change the front chainset, and as Kai found out, MTB & Hybrid chainsets mostley use 110mm BCD chainsets

(explanation here) http://www.blackspire.com/site_assets/www.blackspire.com/images/dynamic/BCD%20Guide.pdf

If your chainset has bolted chainrings, you could just buy bigger chain rings, but probably just as cheap to buy a new chainset.

So find out the BCD of your chainset and buy the same size, but with bigger chainrings. You'll probably find a cyclocross or compact double chainset will be thev same, but uses 46,48 or 50 tooth outer chainrings. I doubt you'll find a triple chainset with a big outer chainring in 110 BCD, but you aren't using the tiny Granny ring, so a double chainset will be fine.

Then depending on what speed set up you've got on the rear, then buy a closer ratio cassette block to replace the one you've got now.

You'll need to replace the chain as well.

If this seems complicated, go to your local LBS.

But don't forget the cycling season is drawing to a close & places like Halfrauds will be looking to shift stock in a month or so's time, so bargains are to be had.

[kaivalagi]

One more thing to add to Mavic's good advice is that if you do plan on getting a new chainset to replace what you have make sure you get one that works with an external BB as you'll have a much much stronger set of bearings to push against and an upgrade path for later which allows for decent hard wearing kit. I got a SRAM Apex GXP chainset (for £75 from Merlin cycles) and it came with a half decent ext BB included so it was a no brainer...SRAM do some nice MTB chainsets too.

All that said you may just want a replacement cassette for the rear and a new chain to start with...would be good to know what you have now to understand what the best route might be for you assuming you don't want to buy a complete bike

[Brettus]

Back with an update, I'd been to-ing and fro-ing with the options since posting. I'd mailed the bike factory in chester to enquire about re-gearing my bike and they pointed out that I'd still be on MTB wheels which would lack a little too. I wanted to see what a road bike felt like to see if I could indeed get on with one.

I happen to be in a hotel near Warrington for two nights so popped into Decathlon who supply one of the two bikes I'd been looking at if I were to go for a road bike and I had a sit on it.... I now own it.

I'd decided on this one as the price was very similar, I preferred the colour scheme and this included pedals so no messing required there. I walked away with a Triban 500SE, overkill for what I'm likely to use but I really like it and it seems a decent value for money option.
Just been for a 4 mile test ride and really like the efficiency of it, seems so much more powerful somehow. Can't wait to get it on my usual lap tomorrow and see how I do. Feels nicer to ride too which I wasn't expecting.

[maviczap]

Carbon forks and a frame with a lifetime warranty, that's pretty schweeet for the money.

It also looks nice IMHO

[MisterTommyH]

So being relatively new to cycling - what are the common sense rules for going out in weather like today?

Don't do it? The rain itself doesn't bother me, but there's the wind. And the fact that drivers are probably less likely to see you? And the outside chance of getting hit by lightening.....

Any input welcome.

[maviczap]

Stay in doors, its too windy, only crazy fools go out.

When I was racing, I would go out in weather like this, but now I don't need to train to race, then I stay in.

Days like this are turbo days, you won't loose you fitness that quickly.

If you feel the need to exercise, then do some indoor work.

[Brettus]

I went out ;) But only because it was the 2 hour break in the weather that I'd spotted on weatherspark. Even sunny spells here now.

Been dying to try my first lap on the Triban and over my previous personal best I was nearly 5 minutes faster over the 13.3 miles! I'm pretty chuffed with that. I'm pretty sure I can break the 45 minute mark if I don't have dipstick pedestrians and other leisure traffic. My mountain bike made this easier because it clanked and rattled so people knew I was coming anyway :)

Not having to jostle the handlebars through the narrow speed gates is a whole lot easier. If only my shoulders weren't so wide I could likely ride through with care.

All in all I'm really chuffed with my purchase, only my neck is aching from the new riding position, my arms and shoulders are fine. It feels like I get way more of what I put in, out of this bike. I supposed because the "engine" is (comparatively) so underpowered that any lack in transmission becomes noticeable.

[Dipper]

So being relatively new to cycling - what are the common sense rules for going out in weather like today?

Don't do it? The rain itself doesn't bother me, but there's the wind. And the fact that drivers are probably less likely to see you? And the outside chance of getting hit by lightening.....

Any input welcome.

I ride all year in all weathers, on a day like today I'd be on my Winter bike as it's heavier and drop the tyre pressures 10 psi. In my opinion rides in poor weather are some of the most rewarding...

[Mark_h]

....All in all I'm really chuffed with my purchase, only my neck is aching from the new riding position, my arms and shoulders are fine. ....

If you've still got the peak on the front of your helmet, take it off. I got neck ache when I changed bikes and it turned out to be because I had to lift my head just a bit higher to see under the peak. Took the peak off and no more neck ache. When I put it on again (evening mountain biking) and forget to take it off when I go out on the road bike I get the neck ache again.

If on the other hand you've not got a peak on your helmet then please disregard the above advice!

[cheesypeeps]

I ride all year in all weathers, on a day like today I'd be on my Winter bike as it's heavier and drop the tyre pressures 10 psi. In my opinion rides in poor weather are some of the most rewarding...


I ride quite a lot these days. And the ones I can remember the best are the days I was coming home from work with hailstones hitting off my face and the slush blocking up at my mudguards... Tough but happy memories! Although I did kind of 'find' myself riding in this type of weather rather than actually choosing to go out in it as such.
Just make sure your dressed properly and you'll be grand. Enjoy.

[maviczap]

I went out ;)

All in all I'm really chuffed with my purchase, only my neck is aching from the new riding position, my arms and shoulders are fine. .

As Mark H said, if you've got a helmet with a peak, it could cause your stiff neck.

However, its more likely to be the bike fit is not quite correct at the moment.

As you've only just got the bike, and your neck muscles aren't used to riding in this new position, then give it few rides to get them used to this.

If you still keep getting a sore neck then you're probably over extending them, due to the handlebar stem being too long?

Everyone's different, and bikes need tweeking to get them to fit correctly.

If you've got ITV4 on demand watch this weeks 'The cycling show'. They had a short feature on bike fitting which although basic, would be useful to any new bike rider.

[Kenzie]

Just upgraded the brakes on the Gryphon. Gone are the poor cheap calipers and cables and they have been replaced with Shimano M355 hydraulics. Just got to bed them in but they are already feeling much better than the cables I pulled off.

[maviczap]

Well if I didn't have so many bikes I'd buy this straight away as a training bike.

Full carbon frame, Shimano Sora groupset, Shimano wheels & Ritchey handlebars & stem for £399!

I don't know the brand, but I guess the frame will be made in Taiwan where most of them are made, so it'll be fine.

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3324518.htm

Only 22 & 23 in frames available, but it'll do for most people

[kaivalagi]

wow, thanks dirt cheap....I'm tempted not because I need it but because the price is THAT good!

22"/56cm just right for my size too I think...

[maviczap]

Yes, if I thought I could sell it either as a complete bike or as parts for more than that I'd buy it today.

[MisterTommyH]

It's took nearly a month, but I've finally decided to ditch the dual sided pedels (spds one side and flat onthe other) because it was annoying to keep having to rotate the pedel everytime I unclipped at a junction or something.

520's arrive today so hopefully no more of that.

[maviczap]

Yep, double side are the way to go with SPD's

[bobbleheadbarne]

I have double sided...easier but you always have to wear the shoes then as trainers just slip and feel wrong

[kaivalagi]

I have the single sided SPD pedals on my commuter bike, currently I always wear normal shoes/trainers to get out and about to do things so it makes sense, I don't even have any SPD shoes right now but will do shortly for the more recreational riding. If the bike was just for riding and not getting on with daily chores too then I would have double sided pedals but it's not so I need a side of the pedal I can use with normal footwear

I use these Shimano M324 things now:
https://newlybent.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/20130209_shoes-and-pedal_1968.jpg

[maviczap]

I have double sided...easier but you always have to wear the shoes then as trainers just slip and feel wrong

Agreed, for commuting & general riding you can get adapter plates.

One pair of my SPD's came with them.

Just do a Google search for them.

These are new & seem simpler to put on & remove than the alternatives, although a bit on the expensive side.

http://www.bikedabs.com/shop/shimano-spd/

[kaivalagi]

If only I knew those existed before!

[maviczap]

LOL sorry

[MisterTommyH]

I have the single sided SPD pedals on my commuter bike, currently I always wear normal shoes/trainers to get out and about to do things so it makes sense, I don't even have any SPD shoes right now but will do shortly for the more recreational riding. If the bike was just for riding and not getting on with daily chores too then I would have double sided pedals but it's not so I need a side of the pedal I can use with normal footwear

I use these Shimano M324 things now:
https://newlybent.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/20130209_shoes-and-pedal_1968.jpg

Yeah, that's what I'm just getting rid of.

[kaivalagi]

LOL sorry

If only you could read my mind!

[MisterTommyH]

National cycle to work day today. Anyone else partake?

[maviczap]

No, day off & ill

[christian1000]

Nay, still waiting for my cycle to work voucher to turn up, and didn't fancy slogging to work on a full bouncer with knobblies on...

[MisterTommyH]

Quick tyre question.

I currently have Bontrager H5 Hard-Case Ultimate, 700x32c's and i'm looking to change to Schwalbe Smart Sam 700cx35's....... Am i right that I should just be able to use the same tubes?

Also the spare tube I have is a 700 x28/38C 277x 1 1/8" - 1 1/2"..... I'm right in saying that will be ok for anything up to a 38 wide tyre?

Finally, for 75mile off-roader how many tubes would you take with you? I've done about 360 miles so far, at least 50% of which have been off-road (including follow the dog once, which isn't completely suitable for a CX).... not had a puncture so far.

[maviczap]

Yes, yes & don't know. Take 3 or 4

[pookie]

you could stick some slime in the tubes or get some with them in
http://www.halfords.com/cycling/cycling-parts/inner-tubes/bikehut-presta-self-sealing-inner-tube-700c-x-32mm-38mm

they do add some weight compared to standard tubes. I've got some of those sealant in a can but not used them yet.

All else fails check this video :)

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[maviczap]

Usual shout out for Aldi cycling stuff next week.

But there's a few new items, which could cross over into motorcycling too, such as the waterproof socks & neck warmer. Doubt the socks are going to AS good as pukka Sealskinz, but knowing Aldi stuff its going to be ok.

https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/thursday-25-september/

[maviczap]

Off to the Cycling Show at the NEC tomorrow, anyone else going?

If its anything like the motor bike shows, it might be the first & last time, but I'll give it a go

[pookie]

have fun..! hope they have the non alcoholic beer tent up :) muchas pintus drinkus :)

Aldi bike stuff in today.. their lobster winter gloves look good.. and as always gt85 for £1.99!!

[Dipper]

Usual shout out for Aldi cycling stuff next week.

But there's a few new items, which could cross over into motorcycling too, such as the waterproof socks & neck warmer. Doubt the socks are going to AS good as pukka Sealskinz, but knowing Aldi stuff its going to be ok.

https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/thursday-25-september/

3 Merino Base Layers, 2 Jackets, 2 Jerseys, 3 pairs of socks for around £100, that's the winter gear sorted! I wouldn't bother with their tights though...

[pookie]

also grab a copy of the mirror today for £5 off a £40 spend --valid for a week

[maviczap]

also grab a copy of the mirror today for £5 off a £40 spend --valid for a week

Good point!

[Littlepeahead]

We've got our Sports Writing Festival going on at Lord's again this October and of the four days Sunday's theme is cycling so some of you might fancy coming along. Full details can be found on the website and tickets go on sale on 1st October.

Also I'd really like your help and advice on the best places to post this up to promote it so if you have any bright ideas on cycling forums and websites that might add a link for me could you send me a PM please! Thanks.

http://www.londonsportswritingfestival.com/

Here's a quick preview:

SUNDAY 26 OCTOBER 2014

11:00-12:00: BIKE FIT: OPTIMISE YOUR BIKE POSITION WITH PHIL BURT

The last day of the Festival is devoted to cycling. We start with an unmissable opportunity to meet Phil Burt, Head Physiotherapist at British Cycling and Team Sky Consultant. This is your chance to hear from the expert on how to maximise your bike position, performance and avoid injury. Phil’s book, Bike Fit, just published, will prove to be an invaluable resource for all cyclists, whether professional or keen amateurs.

12:30-13:30: THE CYCLING ANTHOLOGY

Professional cycling is a rich, dynamic and often controversial sport that lends itself to great writing. Some of the most famous and illustrious races were founded by newspapermen and The Cycling Anthology continues this tradition by bringing together the best in the business. Join the contributors of the most recent volume, Ellis Bacon and Lionel Birnie, as they talk about this year’s competitions including the Tour de France, Vuelta and Giro. Between them, these writers have covered hundreds of Tours de France and written dozens of excellent books and some have even ridden the Tour. Here, their work is showcased together in an unmissable event.

14:00-15:00: BLOWING THE LID ON LANCE ARMSTRONG AND CYCLING’S DOPING CULTURE

Thought you’ve heard everything you need to hear on this subject? Think again Emma O’Reilly was the soigneur (masseur) to Lance Armstrong and so witnessed first-hand the scandal that surrounded him. Today, she has rebuilt the relationship. In her recently published book, which has attracted widespread praise from a cycling community already overrun with memoirs, Emma talks about the labour of the soigneur which is exhausting and frenetic. Hosted by Jeremy Whittle, this event will be insightful, and will offer an opportunity to re-evaluate one of the most explosive moments in cycling history.

15:30-16:30: THE RACE AGAINST THE STASI

Amidst the cynicism and justifications comes this heartbreaking memoir of how one of the world’s most talented cyclists risked it all for love. Dieter Wiedemann looked set to rule the world in 1960. He was the pin-up for socialism in his native East Germany, a podium finisher in The Peace Race (the equivalent of the Tour). But it all changed when, in 1964, he was selected as part of the qualifying team for the Tokyo Olympics. Dieter seized the moment and defected to the West. Whist he fulfilled his lifetime ambition of racing in the Tour de France, the Stasi sought to repatriate him. The family he had left behind him would go on to suffer years of interrogation and fear. This is his story, told by Herbie Sykes. Join Dieter and Herbie, as they talk to The Guardian’s Richard Williams about how the sacrifices he made continued to have repercussions for decades.

17:00-18:00: A CLEAN BREAK

Christophe Bassons is a former professional cyclist. His career was a successful one albeit never in the full glare of the media. That all changed when, in 1998, the Festina doping scandal broke and Bassons shot to fame as one of the handful of clean riders in the peloton – and as the only professional who dared to speak openly about the topic. Join him in conversation with Daniel Friebe as Bassons’ talks about how his decision saw an end to a promising career and a life in exile. The event will be hosted by Jeremy Whittle.

18:30-19:30: THE BREAKAWAY

A retirement statement from a sports star rarely causes a flicker, but Nicole Cooke went out as she rode her bike: giving it her all. Nicole took aim. The only rider ever to have become World and Olympic champion in the same year, and the first British cyclist to have been ranked World No.1, but as a woman in a man’s sport, her exploits gained little recognition and brought no riches. Like many of her male counterparts, she too had ridden through this dark period for the sport when drug-taking was everywhere. Nicole Cooke spoke up for those who had taken a very different path to. In her frank and outspoken autobiography, Cooke reveals the real story behind British cycling’s rise to global dominance. With a child’s dreams of success, she left home at 18 to pursue her goals in Italy. Broken contracts, unpaid wages, a horrendous injury and drugs cheats were just some of the challenges she faced, even before she lined up to take on her opponents. The Breakaway is a book that will inspire and challenge. Nicole will be joined on stage by Brendan Gallagher.

20:00-21:00: RIDING THE GRAND TOURS

A triumphant end to our Festival as cycling’s own Tim Moore, Max Leonard and Richard Moore close the weekend with a look at Riding the Tour. This event will be hosted by Sky’s Orla Chennaoui.

[Dipper]

Link posted to our local FB group page.

[pookie]

cycling forums like singletrackworld / bikeradar

http://lcc.org.uk/pages/forum
http://road.cc/forums/roadcc-bike
http://www.ctc.org.uk/

maybe contact http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/ as they have a list of local clubs by region

[Brettus]

I'm just gonna leave this here:
http://i.imgur.com/9zL27fE.gif

[Brettus]

Actually I'm back already.
I'm debating the idea of swapping to clipless peals (why the hell are they called clipless when they are the ones with the clips on?!)
and so far I'm liking the virtues of these ones:
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-m424-spd-pedals/
and probably a pair of these or something like:
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-mt34-spd-touring-cycle-shoes/


I'm happy doing the stuff I do at the moment, 13 mile laps on flat paved ground. I'm not sure they'll make much difference to me but I won't know without trying. I'm pretty confident I'll ride with the proper shoes 99% of the time but I still like the option of using them regardless of shoes.


Thoughts and advice greatly appreciated!


Must go, off to try a lap this evening, wind doesn't look favourable but it won't beat me.

[maviczap]

Yep they'll be fine

You're too young to remember toe clips

http://urbanvelo.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/soma.jpg

But this is why these type of pedals are referred to as clipless :D

[pookie]

the clipless will probably keep your pedalling consistent ... I found riding clipless on the road a revelation in keeping my feet in position. I've tried using them offroad but keep bailing out. The fall off road whilst clipped in looks far more painful to even contemplate moving from platforms.

Oh the gif is of the great Martyn ashton "road party 2" .. a inspiration to us all!

[christian1000]

My cycle scheme voucher finally turned up yesterday, so I collected the new wheels today! :D

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/christian101986/Mobile%20Uploads/F73665A3-85C0-46C9-9852-6F4849C991BD.jpg

So I'll be zooming around Warwickshire roads on none motorised wheels. Horray

I've gone clipless (I agree with you brettus it's a silly name). I like that you can use extra muscles with clip less, pulling up aswell as pushing down. Do be prepared to look silly when you stop once in a while whilst you get used to them though! The best is un-clipping one side but tipping the other, fruitlessly waving your free leg in fresh air. Decided they were definately a bad idea for my trail bike.

[maviczap]

That's very nice

[pookie]

How do you stay protected on a road bike? I took a fellow rider to A&E after a innocuous tumble which cracked his helmet in two places. The helmet did its job really well as he landed head then shoulder.Luckily they managed to escape with just shoulder bruising and no collarbone damage but the uncovered parts caught some tarmac.

It raised the question of whether cycle wear is sufficient in event of a fall? This was a reasonably low speed tumble and I guess it worked but I'm not sure if it would have been the same at speed.

[Dipper]

How do you stay protected on a road bike? I took a fellow rider to A&E after a innocuous tumble which cracked his helmet in two places. The helmet did its job really well as he landed head then shoulder.Luckily they managed to escape with just shoulder bruising and no collarbone damage but the uncovered parts caught some tarmac.

It raised the question of whether cycle wear is sufficient in event of a fall? This was a reasonably low speed tumble and I guess it worked but I'm not sure if it would have been the same at speed.

This thought often crosses my mind, usually when doing 50mph downhill....

[Luckypants]

How do you stay protected on a road bike?Don't crash would be my best advice. Failing that take up mountain biking and learn how to fall. Most collar bone and wrist injuries are caused by putting your hand out to save yourself - don't! MTB riders are told not to do this and I learned not to do it in my 20s. It is hard to override this reaction but with practice (see MTB falling a lot) you can master it. If going over the front I try to tuck and roll onto my shoulder/back.

It doesn't always work as my last crash proved.

[pookie]

This thought often crosses my mind, usually when doing 50mph downhill....

if only i could get that fast.. come to think of it maybe not ;)

I'll keep the fall and roll in mind.. never thought about the hand break fall much and I guess its a normal reaction.

I imagine there is a market for kevlar woven lycra and hump back air bag technology for cyclist :)

Firstaid kit to be added to my long list of things to bring along ( rabbits foot included :) )

[maviczap]

This thought often crosses my mind, usually when doing 50mph downhill....

Simple don't think about it, I don't, otherwise I wouldn't do it :D

Don't crash would be my best advice. Failing that take up mountain biking and learn how to fall. Most collar bone and wrist injuries are caused by putting your hand out to save yourself - don't! MTB riders are told not to do this and I learned not to do it in my 20s. It is hard to override this reaction but with practice (see MTB falling a lot) you can master it. If going over the front I try to tuck and roll onto my shoulder/back.

It doesn't always work as my last crash proved.

I haven't taught myself to do this, but I don't recall sticking out my hand to save myself in any falls I've had, instictively I've fallen on my side without using my hand to stop my fall.I agree with not doing it if you can help it.

How do you stay protected on a road bike? I took a fellow rider to A&E after a innocuous tumble which cracked his helmet in two places. The helmet did its job really well as he landed head then shoulder.Luckily they managed to escape with just shoulder bruising and no collarbone damage but the uncovered parts caught some tarmac.

It raised the question of whether cycle wear is sufficient in event of a fall? This was a reasonably low speed tumble and I guess it worked but I'm not sure if it would have been the same at speed.

My crash in March was exactly the same, only 18mph, but the mechanism of fall meant I couldn't get up and ride home. The crash split my helmet, I only had a small graze on my shoulder, but the bruise to my hip meant I couldn't walk, which required a trip to A&E.

The way I fell, meant instead of sliding, I landed heavily on my hip & head. Which is why my helmet saved me from concussion.

When the pros fall off at high speed, they usually slide, which loses skin & burns, but doesn't bruise as much as a direct fall. So usually they get up and ride on, unless they've done something else.

It'd be nice if you could wear a lightweight back protector, along with hip, shoulder & elbow protection, but anything too restrictive is just going to annoy me.

All my worst falls have been slow speed, but high impact

[Winder]

My new paint job on the 1993 Cannondale M500 MTB

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll146/winder1983/Snapbucket/040CB62F_zpsda6c0a43.jpg (http://s287.photobucket.com/user/winder1983/media/Snapbucket/040CB62F_zpsda6c0a43.jpg.html)

[pookie]

Nice work ..wow check out the rear chainstays!

Reminds me that I still have a hankering for a cannondale volvo retro bike with head shock / lefty :)

[Winder]

Funny you should mention that. I have been looking at this on eBay. Not a lefty though.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=371156450703

[pookie]

mmmmmmm thats the ticket !!! Although maybe not the price.

[Winder]

Yeah, when I say I was looking at it I was looking at decal positioning and colour. But I didn't bother and went for the clean look. If I was to do it again I would grind off all the cable holders on the frame that I wasn't going to use before painting

[Bluepete]

Cyclescheme has come through!

I've just picked up my new Ribble Prime in flat black. Not had a ride yet cos the weather is pants.

Looks like this. ..

http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/products/images/bbuilder/RibblePrimeLarge.jpg

Pete ;)

[maviczap]

Nice

[Luckypants]

Cyclescheme has come through!
Pete ;)
She came round then :-dd

[Bluepete]

Shhh!

Not the carbon thoroughbred I was after, but it's a heck of a bike for the price.

Pete ;)

[Bluepete]

Just back from my first ride on it and WOW!

I'd forgotten just how fast a road bike can be. The frame transfers the power so efficiently and the carbon fork damps the road buzz beautifully.

18 miles today in really windy conditions. I had 40mph along the Blackrod bypass with the wind behind me!

I can see myself spending a lot of time on this bike.

Pete ;)

[christian1000]

Just back from my first ride on it and WOW!

I'd forgotten just how fast a road bike can be. The frame transfers the power so efficiently and the carbon fork damps the road buzz beautifully.

18 miles today in really windy conditions. I had 40mph along the Blackrod bypass with the wind behind me!

I can see myself spending a lot of time on this bike.

Pete ;)

Excellent work, just wait till you climb back on a MTB, it will feel like you are pedalling through treacle! A feeling I expect to experience when I head to Llandegla on Saturday.

[maviczap]

Its mudguard time and if you want a good deal, Planet X have a super deal on SKS long Raceblades

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FSRBLNG/sks-race-blade-long-mudguard

I bought a pair earlier in the year for my winter bike after Dipper mentioned them on here.

I've just bought a pair for my Ti bike, as its going to get used soon.

These a good for bikes with close clearance frames with narrow tyres, as the guards mount either side of the brake bridge/front fork using a metal quick release plate. So you don't have to have them on the bike all the time, as they can be removed or put on quite quickly. No good for Ultra close clearance frames

They're a bit more robust and wider than Crud Race guards, and have decent mudflaps, so if you ride in a group, your mates will like you more.

Only 6 black sets left, so be quick.

[Bluepete]

My trusty old North wave shoes gave up the ghost!

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk24/conker51/20141010_110851_zpsx6620teb.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/conker51/media/20141010_110851_zpsx6620teb.jpg.html)

So a quick Google and a trip to Leisure Lakes and now I have these Specialized for just £35!

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk24/conker51/20141014_135403_zpsn6ncxqma.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/conker51/media/20141014_135403_zpsn6ncxqma.jpg.html)

Very comfy and great value! !

Pete ;)

[maviczap]

My trusty old North wave shoes gave up the ghost!

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk24/conker51/20141010_110851_zpsx6620teb.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/conker51/media/20141010_110851_zpsx6620teb.jpg.html)

So a quick Google and a trip to Leisure Lakes and now I have these Specialized for just £35![/URL]

Very comfy and great value! !

Pete ;)

LOL those Northwaves have had it :p

Good price on them Specialized

[shiftin_gear98]

Random I know, but it is kind of bike related.


http://www.delcam.tv/delcam-video.asp?VideoId=380 (http://www.delcam.tv/delcam-video.asp?VideoId=380)


Pretty cool either way.

[maviczap]

That's well cool

[Mark_h]

Derbyshire info.

I'm going to be spending a week with the family in Hope which is just outside of Castleton south of Lady Bower.

This gives me an opportunity to nip out for some cycling at breakfast time while the kids get up ready for action. Looking at the OS may it looks a tad hilly round those parts. Do any of you know the area?

Questions:-
1. Is it possible to find sensible, non-vertical 20-30 mile loops in that area?
2. Would you take our road bike or mountain bike?
3. Is it flat/quiet enough to warrant taking the kids (7&9) bikes up there too?

I'm not really into doing massive hills for pre-breakfast runs and it's a bit of an **** to take a rack full of bikes on a 500 mile round trip for them just to spend a week leant against a wall in the rental cottage.

Thoughts, advice?

[maviczap]

From my knowledge of that area, it's fuggin hilly, although I've never cycled it.

If you're from the flat lands, take your mountain bike.

As for cycling, some of the roads & lanes are lovely and quiet

[Dipper]

Derbyshire info.

I'm going to be spending a week with the family in Hope which is just outside of Castleton south of Lady Bower.

This gives me an opportunity to nip out for some cycling at breakfast time while the kids get up ready for action. Looking at the OS may it looks a tad hilly round those parts. Do any of you know the area?

Questions:-
1. Is it possible to find sensible, non-vertical 20-30 mile loops in that area?
2. Would you take our road bike or mountain bike?
3. Is it flat/quiet enough to warrant taking the kids (7&9) bikes up there too?

I'm not really into doing massive hills for pre-breakfast runs and it's a bit of an **** to take a rack full of bikes on a 500 mile round trip for them just to spend a week leant against a wall in the rental cottage.

Thoughts, advice?

I did the Tour of the Peak this year and can assure you it's not too flat around that area, West of Castleton is Winnats Pass which is b'stard steep!!! Saying that you should be able to eek out a flat-ish loop if you go East and/or South, try using Strava's route planning tool, it will show you the the elevation profile.

[maviczap]

Its a bit quiet in here.

As its that time of year, I thought I'd post this deal up, as its the best I've seen.

These Sealskinz over socks get good reviews & after yesterdays ride through the back lanes awash with road wide puddles, I thought its about time I got some, as my current oversocks don't keep out the water.

Its not winterboot time yet

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/sealskinz-cycle-over-socks-aw13/?lang=en&curr=GBP&dest=1&utm_source=pla&utm_medium=base&utm_campaign=uk&utm_content=SealSkinz%20Cycle%20Over%20Socks%20AW1 3%20-%20XL%20Black%20%7C%20Overshoes&kpid=5360593415&sku=5360593415&ci_src=18615224&ci_sku=5360593415uk&utm_source=google&utm_term&utm_campaign=Sealskinz&utm_medium=base&utm_content=srlw5BMsH_dc%7cpcrid%7c%7cpkw%7c%7cpmt %7c%7cprd%7c5360593415uk&dest=1&curr=GBP

[punyXpress]

Anyone seen " Danny Macaskill: The Ridge " on Awesomer ?