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Not sure to be honest, my Bessa shots were a bit off as well. Might be me metering for the wrong iso maybe.
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Not sure how to read that. Good or sarcastic?
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No, I'm serious. I'd heard rumours that Polaroid might resurrect their instant cameras.
Maybe they realised how much of a huge mistake they made.
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johnnyrod
08-09-17, 09:50 PM
Yep fairly dark pics there but looking good. What are you metering with? Maybe it picked up some backlighting? Even Pocket Light Meter app does. Wonder what Polaroid are up to?
I was using light meter app, but I think I may have developed it too hot. My chemicals were at room temp instead of 20c so that may be what has caused it. I am really hoping Polaroid are bringing back their film as they are seeing the Impossible Project making money on it. But the general opinion is that Impossible is rebranding as Polaroid. I managed to lift the hood and focussing screen off the Seagull and wipe the fingerprint off the inside of the viewing lens. Happy now. The Polaroid 300 is just a rebadged Fuji Instax so hoping something awesome is coming.
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Maybe they realised how much of a huge mistake they made.
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They were in serious debt and struggling against digital cameras. Fuji however have proved that there is still a niche market for instant cameras despite their high cost.
I read that Polaroid have new owners and the same group own or have a big chunk of Impossible Project. I just want the good old days of film back where it doesn't cost an arm or a leg for eight shots. Would love some 127 film as well.
I loaded up two Minolta 16 carts this afternoon. One with 100 iso Max Speilman film and the other with Kodak Ektar 25. Both cameras are loaded now. Will also reload a 126 cart I have kicking around. Just about finished printing an 8mm take up spool for my projector.
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yokohama
10-09-17, 06:58 PM
I went digital today. reading articles, watching a couple of videos and playing around with the settings on the OMD EM10. I think I managed to set up a B&W silent shutter street mode setting.
You would have thought that there would be s quick button for that or is it buried in the menu? I tried out the projector tonight, works a treat.
johnnyrod
10-09-17, 08:26 PM
Is that for taking pictures of Charlie Chaplin?
BOOM BOOM
Dad joke
yokohama
10-09-17, 09:02 PM
There is a button for the Charlie Chaplin mode now. Had to set it all up first though and the menu is damn complicated.
Kodak Portra anyone? https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004V3I6JY/ref=wl_mb_recs_2_title
yokohama
12-09-17, 06:28 PM
I had a tidy up today - and had to buy another storage box. 46 is the current count, +3 digital.
Not bad considering you wanted to get rid of the only two you had!
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yokohama
12-09-17, 07:38 PM
Very true. Didn't dare count the lenses.
Should be some pics back later in the week from 3 of them.
If you guys could keep only ONE camera from your collection, which would it be and why?
yokohama
13-09-17, 08:10 PM
Hard to call is that, especially as there's a queue waiting to be used.
I might go for that Minolta Himatic 9 ... at the moment. Great lens and image quality, has a metered manual mode and also works as an auto point and shoot, nice and solid, and will still work on 'sunny 16' without a battery.
johnnyrod
13-09-17, 08:24 PM
46????!!!!!!!11111one
Holy carp, I think either Pentax Program A because it may not be really vintage but does everything, and does it well. Otherwise I'm torn between the Contessa LKE I have a film in, which is compact and really nice to use, or the Olympus S, which has a better lens though is as hefty as an SLR.
I would probably say a Trip 35. No batteries, easy to use and reasonably light.
That's a hard one. All my cameras are so different. I think it would have to be the A1.
johnnyrod
13-09-17, 09:16 PM
Looking through SLR viewfinder: OMG this shot is going to be amazing, the tones, the bokeh (hello open aperture metering), the sudden clearing of the microprisms as you get it in focus. Shoot - CLUNK, and other convincing camera noises, world goes black, imagination takes over what you actually took a picture of.
Reality: 1 shot from a roll is a keeper
Looking through rangefinder VF: yes, there it is, not sure it looked like that to the naked eye, let me try moving around a bit. Okay, little patch is less foggy. Shoot - very quiet click, cue anticlimax and wondering if another go is worth it, something akin to cognitive dissonance that a picture has been taken as your eyes were open the whole time
Reality: 1 shot from a roll is a keeper
News from Polaroid https://petapixel.com/2017/09/13/polaroid-originals-launches-new-onestep-2-camera-type-film/
They are releasing a new camera and film. Its a rebrand of Impossible.
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Just turned up in today's delivery. No cameras though.
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yokohama
14-09-17, 03:14 PM
Going to have to rethink on what to take away with me. I went to collect 3 test films from 3 different cameras today and they weren't done; the machine had broken. I'm not going to chance it with an untested camera so it might have to be the Minolta X700.
Meanwhile, I do like the EVF in the OMD EM10. Rather than add a b&w filter to a colour jpeg, set the picture to monotone and you see in black and white through the viewfinder. I like that.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170914/d05ebfaed1142f66940991cb1efec1ab.jpg
Just turned up in today's delivery. No cameras though.
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Tease. It's good, but a lot of people seem disappointed that there wasn't "more". Hoping the price comes down. On the "I'm cutting down on cameras" front, I won a Lomography Spinner 360. Been after one for ages.
Did you fix that ME Super Admin?
Did you fix that ME Super Admin?
Not yet. But then I've hardly had time. I've been doing double shifts at work to cover leave etc. I thought I'd retired 🙄.
More Polaroid news
https://www.jessops.com/c/p/cameras/instant/polaroid
yokohama
16-09-17, 08:03 AM
Well, the nice people at Durham Tees Valley airport hand checked all my films for me so they've arrived in China without being X rayed at all.
Raining. :(
So you are gone now then? A workmate pointed this out at his local village auction but as I was working I was unable to attend. His Dad went and bid for me, got it for a tenner!
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4392/37070357856_ab3e5cc601_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YtMgSY)
The shutter fires properly. Got a junker X700 if you need any spares Yoko?
Oh yes, won't be wearing that 80-200 though. I have dug out a Miida 135mm f2.8 for the moment until I can find something else for it. There was also a Minox 35 but I didn't think to ask them to bid.
yokohama
16-09-17, 08:34 PM
Absolute bargain on the X700. It looks good. I have mine out here with me.
johnnyrod
16-09-17, 08:49 PM
Does indeed look like a great bag! Speaking of which, check this out
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JOB-LOT-vintage-cameras/182766972200
Very beaten up Contax II, TBH you'd only sell it as a beater rather than have hopes for it, but two different and interesting Olympii, an OM2n and another (unknown). I watched it first but I've got way too much to do to worry about this (and once I realised the truth about the Contax). Maybe of interest.
Dug out my Contessamatic again, it actually looks quite good, busted meter still wants thinking about, and the bizarre vomit smell is still there, but it would be nice to get it going. Only a week until Spain now, need to check the Esnign again and put a film in it. I'm going to miss the end of this month's photo comp, some really good entries!
It's an OM1. Would love a single digit OM but they are always just out of reach. So it will be just Admin and I left then?
johnnyrod
16-09-17, 09:12 PM
You can hold the fort! I don't know how much an OMx goes for but weigh it all up, what it is, what you would keep, what you could sell to cover it.
yokohama
16-09-17, 11:49 PM
I think with an OM 1 or 2, unless you fall really lucky, it's a matter of biting the bullet and paying the price if you really want one and will use it. Or like in Johnny's link, get one in a bundle and sell off the other bots to recoup some of the costs.
I should be online a bit more often this year. Am in a different apartment with better internet and I've got a vpn set up on the laptop. I'll try to take more photos this year, analogue and digital. Have the Ricoh 500 with a b&w film to go in my pocket and the X700 with a 45mm pancake and the Tamron AD2 35-135..
Body is messed up at the moment. 7 hours ahead and I've been awake since 4am. Down for an early breakfast at 6am.
4am our time? It's half 8 in the morning here now so must be half 3 in the afternoon by now. Can't wait to see the shots as they were brilliant last time.
Absolute bargain on the X700. It looks good. I have mine out here with me.
It's a shame I can't swap over the top plate as the new one has brassing and some bubbling of the paint.
yokohama
17-09-17, 08:19 AM
Swapping the top plate would be quite a test of soldering skills. I hope the capacitors in mine behave for the next 3 months. That being said, it might be cheap to get it fixed here.
After the stress of trying to get a sim card, I'm currently enjoying a pint of locally brewed IPA.
Have you got any plans for places you really want to visit? I can never remember what bit you are visiting.
yokohama
17-09-17, 08:44 AM
Not really. I'm based in Chengdu. Visited a few local places last year. Possibly a few more to do but I'd really like to get out to Jiuzhaigjou - think that's spelt correctly. It's meant to be beautiful but it's a 2 day visit; a bit much to squeeze into a weekend. Google image it.
Any good flea markets around there? Seen someone trying to sell an OM 1 on ebay for £350. Trips are up around £45-£75 in antique shops.
yokohama
17-09-17, 09:41 AM
I'll have a look; see if I can find any treats.
The second hand camera shops tend to be expensive here.
Going rate for OM1 looks to be around £70 or so. My local camera shop has one for £120 but that's with a 50mm Zuiko, cla and a guarantee.
Trips are well overpriced these days. Better quality rangefinders cost not much more. Hell, can get a B.I.N. Rc 35 for not much more and that's a Streets ahead camera.
Been looking at a Polaroid SX70 but even the faulty ones are around £50 bin. I think prices are still on the up, so looks like we did our collecting at the right time.
Here's an idea on how to display broken cameras
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170917/46acff47b4d1aa2f6d31d9a0d35b34ef.jpg
That's pretty cool, I was thinking along the lines of a total dismantle and putting in a box frame. I think it has been done before but I cannot find the pictures.
johnnyrod
17-09-17, 07:42 PM
I did wonder about putting something like an Ikonta 35 in a box frame but it would need to be pretty deep - if it had glass in it.
Did anyone do any shooting this weekend? We haven't been anywhere so all I did camera-wise is buy the X700.
Not me. I was working yesterday. Today was housework and F1.
johnnyrod
17-09-17, 09:00 PM
Nope. Rounding up stuff for Spain - apparently need high viz vests and whatnot. Need to check the Ensign and pack, looks like we are going to get a lot of rain - great.
johnnyrod
20-09-17, 03:55 PM
Hoorahhhhh - Pocket Light Meter works in IOS11
That's good, did you get the paid version or the free one?
johnnyrod
20-09-17, 08:35 PM
Free
The paid version will retain the iso settings and a couple of other things. Saves setting it each time.
johnnyrod
20-09-17, 08:56 PM
I'm pretty sure the free one does too, seems to but I've never been that finnicky to notice.
I need to check the collimation again of the Ensign and try to see the field of view to compare to the finder, as the pics I got back didn't match well with my memory. It's a flip-up finder so not the best. Am going to try to make a roll of film using laminating plastic, to project the image onto.
The one I had on my Android wouldn't save, I think its a feature of the paid one. Great app to use. Think it will be ealry hours were Yoko is now.
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I wonder who the lucky winner of the Olympus bundle was? Went for £70 in the end. My Lomography Spinner arrived today as well. Just need to figure out how to use it.
johnnyrod
22-09-17, 07:16 PM
Checked the infinity focus of the Ensign which seems just about okay, it could do with a mark for hyperfocal shooting at f11 as there's 25' then infinity, but also 40' on the DoF calculator - bit of a yawning gap. The mark needs to be between 25 and 40 somewhere, will have to calculate it. Got the Portra 400 out of the fridge earlier. Heading off after lunch on Sunday
How long will you be away for?
johnnyrod
22-09-17, 08:30 PM
Back a week Monday night, home again Tuesday pm. Meant to say f8 above but set to f11 on the shutter - the old DoF scales are all a stop too optimistic - try comparing 50mm on an SLR to 50mm on an old 1960s axe and you'll see what I mean! I just tried a few online calculators and am going to have to dig out a 105mm lens to check its scale as it could be the DoF scale on the Ensign is cobblers. Wouldn't surprise me!
I have been browsing Gumtree again and spotted a mint Olympus OM1, but it's £180.
johnnyrod
23-09-17, 09:17 PM
Hahhahhahaaaaa
Was talking to my dad earlier about the Ensign, and mentioned how the DoF scale is normally printed on the shutter, e.g. here where it's blank... so found a pen and drew on the scale. DOH should have thought of that earlier. Portra loaded, bags packed, ready to go. Smoke me a kipper!
Have fun and stay shiny side up. I'm now off to a car boot sale.
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Apparently this is waiting for me in the shop. Customer brought it in and donated it. No one else wants it.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170924/2790b45db3c1e13d5f6e21e5fbfe8f6d.jpg
Cool, nice condition as well, I really like my OM10, its simple and light. I also have a black Quartz one. I'll see your OM10 and raise you a car boot find OM1 £10:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4443/37423363175_17d0b286cc_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Z1Yw4z)
I also found a Yashica 44 in need of repair £7.50
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4469/37423363355_4c0fbc566f_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Z1Yw7F)
Plus some slides and a Polaroid kit.
yokohama
24-09-17, 12:37 PM
How do you manage it Kenzie? That's awesome for an OM1 Bet you can't wait to play with that.
Good score on the OM10 too admin. I used one out here last year and it took some good pics.
Just about got used to the time difference now, well, I'm not waking up at 4am anymore. I haven't used any film yet but went out with the EM10 yesterday. Will see if I can upload a few random pics later but my laptop is really slow on the internet, even with vpn.
I found a shop selling a few second hand cameras. He had a Nikon fe2 for £70, and it's negotiable I think. They go for daft prices on ebay. No Seagulls spotted so far.
An OM1 for a tenner! What a great buy.
I bought a winder for the A1. It's not an oem one and it was sold as faulty, I took a punt at 99p. Managed to fix it. Broken wire on the motor and a screw was missing they holds the motor in place. I'm not sure I'll use it I bought it for the challenge.
I don't know tbh. It seems to be a "feeling" and I just go with it. I spotted it on the stall and I thought it was an OM10. Couldn't believe it when I saw what it was. Even better when she said the price. It was jammed up but a small chunk of metal acting as a stop was bent, so with a quick tweak it now works. Found a gear for the Yashica 44 and I am just filing it down to fit. Should have it up and running in no time. It was the last sale of the season and there were more cameras there today than I have ever seen. The stall I got the Yashica from has a Werra-Mat but she wanted £30. Saw an EOS 650 as well. Have you got an OM1 Yoko?
yokohama
24-09-17, 01:38 PM
I don't have an OM1. While I might like one, I've got the OM2 and the very similar Pentax MX so can't really justify one, although if I saw one for a tenner, I could be convinced otherwise.
Actually, I just noticed, what's the lens on yours? Did it come with it? Doesn't look like the normal Zuiko 50.
Just seen my post higher up about the OM1 for £180, today was a good day! Just got to finish filing this gear down for the 44. It's a 50mm f3.5 Zuiko macro lens, came with the camera. I saw it was different and a little deeper but assumed that it was an older lens. Apparently valuable, never seen one before. Shame that the filter ring is dented. I thought that the iso dial was the shutter speed at first. It's smaller than I thought it would be, and light. It also had an exposed film inside.
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/olympusom1n2/shared/zuiko/htmls/macrozuikoC.htm
Hi Guys, me again. got all the film together, what do you think, should i sell as a job lot (all in, or separate colour/b&w?)
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOpPMi4FLh14ewTmmB4f6CVpQmUVhYXPwqAkXNRXGncVL P8B--hT96PWulBDwtQdA?key=R09KUzZianctRnkwWHREMklrb3NfbT ZzZGZjQWhn
what's a fair asking price?
managed to check out the Fujifilm professional, its fully working (still has film in it and a full battery) and have found the box and manuals for it also, is ebay the best place to sell it you think?
Also having an issue with the XD7, again its got film in it. but the lever gets stuck(it moves a bit then just stops fast), at first i thought that meant it was ready to snap, but it wont activate the shutter, any ideas? it does have the Minolta auto winder thing attached to the bottom, could this be the issue? (i did try removing it also with the same result)
any of you guys develop your own film? there is a lot of blank photopaper, mostly sealed in various sizes. and obviously a truck tonne of development kit also.
yokohama
25-09-17, 12:31 PM
Craig. In the xd7, is the film finished? If so, it won't wind on any more. Try taking it out anyway. Is the ****ter window up or down?
Kenzie, unusual lens that. I've never come across one of those before. Definitely worth trying out.
Having massive difficulties uploading pics to google or OneDrive.
Craig. In the xd7, is the film finished? If so, it won't wind on any more. Try taking it out anyway. Is the ****ter window up or down?
Kenzie, unusual lens that. I've never come across one of those before. Definitely worth trying out.
Having massive difficulties uploading pics to google or OneDrive.
looking at whats on the right hand spool, id say there cant be more than 1 or 2 pictures out of the film.
when you say shutter window, what do you mean? there is a little shutter that "closes" the viewfinder?
yokohama
25-09-17, 02:13 PM
Sorry. I mean the mirror in front of the shutter. If you look through the viewfinder, can you see through the lens or is it black? If you can see through, then the mirror is down and the shutter hasn't been c***ked, which implies the problem is with the winder somewhere. Can't be much more help at the moment as I can't have a look at mine to check the mechanism. You could try putting batteries in the winder, see if that will wind it on from the base but I suspect the winder might have something to do with the problem.
Are you not going to fly home to check? This is the lens Yoko 202064074391
yokohama
25-09-17, 10:22 PM
Definitely not seen one of those with the macro function before. Give it a whirl. I'd like to see the results from that. It's weird using an Olympus after other cameras and finding the shutter dial at the base of the lens and not on top but it is comfortable and easy to do once you get used to it.
yokohama
26-09-17, 01:54 AM
I know they are digital and not analogue but if you are interested, there's a China 2017 album in my profile with a few of saturdays pics. Taken with the OMD EM10 with 14-42 kit lens and the b&w done through the camera settings and not post processed.
I'll try to put up a new selection in a week or 2.
All photos are welcome, some good shots in there Yoko. Admin, fancy a winder for your new OM? 272859469838
Picked up the om10 yesterday. Good condition but shutter is locked. Mirror is jammed in the down position. Second shutter curtain has come off its runner too.
Sounds like it may be a junker then. At least you have a lens for a possible future buy.
Craig, it's hard to put a price on it as film is on the up. I reckon there is at least £50 of film there.
Sounds like it may be a junker then. At least you have a lens for a possible future buy.
Craig, it's hard to put a price on it as film is on the up. I reckon there is at least £50 of film there.
Could be. I'll take it apart tomorrow and try a few things off YouTube I've seen
I like the design of this camera, especially the lens release.
I didn't realise that the two tabs on the lens do different things. The left one is a release, but the right one is a dof preview button.
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yokohama
28-09-17, 01:25 AM
I like the OM10 too. I just find the controls - mode selection and exposure adjustment - a bit fiddly. Apart from that, it's a nice light, easy to use camera.
How are you getting on over there Yoko? Need some more pics!
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yokohama
28-09-17, 01:44 PM
It's going good. Body clock has adjusted but really busy. However, it's mid-autumn festival next week, which is a public holiday, so I've got a couple of days off. Will try to get out and take more photos. Maybe experiment with some night shots to see what the OMD can do although the best aperture I've got is 3.5.
I didn't realise that the two tabs on the lens do different things. The left one is a release, but the right one is a dof preview button.
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I didn't realise that either.
I found one well known fault with the camera. It didn't fix it entirely though. There's a very ominous rattle coming from inside too. Looks like it's going to be an ornament.
Any good Admin?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_LLC4wtg7fORCFtw97xhDg/search?query=olympus+om10
Any good Admin?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_LLC4wtg7fORCFtw97xhDg/search?query=olympus+om10
This is the fault I found. Fixed that but mirror still locked. I could release the shutter curtain though. I think something jammed and the owner forced the mech causing the idler lockup and breaking the mirror mech, hence the rattle. https://youtu.be/Y1mi6CTTSYw
Might be fubar'd then. Is then lens in good nick?
Might be fubar'd then. Is then lens in good nick?
No. It has minor fungus within.
Well I guess it was free so no worries there. Shelf queen it is then.
Well I guess it was free so no worries there. Shelf queen it is then.
Exactly. It's cost me nothing and looks good on the shelf. I'm tempted to buy a working one though.
I would, great little cameras. I have been playing with the macro on the OM1 and its a great lens. I could really do with a split image focus screen for it rather than the microprism thing its got. Not easy to use.
I would, great little cameras. I have been playing with the macro on the OM1 and its a great lens. I could really do with a split image focus screen for it rather than the microprism thing its got. Not easy to use.
From memory they are replaceable on the OM1. Does it not have the standard horizontal split centre and 'freznel' collar?
yokohama
29-09-17, 12:01 PM
Ophic"s right on that. There's a range of different focussing screens which are interchangeable across the whole OM system. Maybe you could ask admin if he'll part with a bit of his doorstop. :)
Ophic"s right on that. There's a range of different focussing screens which are interchangeable across the whole OM system. Maybe you could ask admin if he'll part with a bit of his doorstop. :)
I'll do you swap.
I don't think it would fit. Slightly different design. I do have an OM10 screen that I use for collimating that I could try.
Edit....
Just read that they are the same, just the om1 has a tab for identification. Will give it a try.
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Okay. Let us know how you get on
Yep the om10 screen fits. I actually had two in the bit of paper I had them wrapped in. Focus is a million times better now.
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