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[garynortheast]

I claimed a refund while I was sat on the train John! The annoying thing is that TfW will have to pay it, whereas it should by rights have to come from Network Rail as it was their problem which caused the issue.
I'm told by someone who works for Network Rail that the signalling system between Shrewsbury and Wolverhampton was upgraded at great expense last year. Well, that worked well then.....

[admin]

I wonder if TfW can claim it back from Network Rail?

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[redtrummy]

And Network rail claim it back from their contractors?

[garynortheast]

Bloody hell, it's just 8.20pm and I'm already thinking about going to bed! I'm sure it's to do with the time of the year.

[garynortheast]

Morning orgers. Early start to drive over to Newtown this morning. Have to drop the car off for the front suspension to be looked at. It's not going to be cheap! :-(

[Craig380]

Fingers crossed!

[garynortheast]

I already know the bill is likely to be around £300. Possibly more. :-(

[garynortheast]

Hope that's the last of the car repairs for a while now. I really don't need any more repair bills!

[Ruffy]

OK, In case I've not declared it previously, I currently work for Network Rail. Whilst my contract means I have to be careful what I put on social media, I'm happy to help explain some of the things that happen where I can, and maybe also help to stop incorrect myths being perpetuated. It's all unofficial but I personally promise that I will post honestly in such cases - I'm not a PR bot!

I'm a bit late to this discussion point but maybe these additions will aid understanding a bit:
...The annoying thing is that TfW will have to pay it, whereas it should by rights have to come from Network Rail as it was their problem which caused the issue...
I won't argue that it's a somewhat bizarre industry structure we have in the UK currently, but ultimately your contract for travel is with the train operator, so it's right that they compensate you in the first instance when they can't deliver for you.
I wonder if TfW can claim it back from Network Rail?
Yes they can, and they will. There are a number of industry mechanisms in place to deal with the interactions between industry companies - "Schedule 8 (https://www.networkrail.co.uk/industry-and-commercial/information-for-operators/payments-for-disruption-on-the-railway/)" applies in this case.

But they're generally designed to hold each party whole for [hypothetical] long term financial performance, rather than deal with each event on a case by case actual loss basis. (The theory is to avoid a whole army of loss adjusters and claims litigators inefficiently spending masses of time, effort and money on many individual internal industry claim debates that would probably just net out in the end. We're not perfect but it could be a lot, lot worse. Imagine if each event were handled like a bike insurance claim!:eek::smt119)
And Network rail claim it back from their contractors?
Possibly, depending on when the project work was done, what the fault was, is there evidence to prove cause etc.

We do pursue losses against suppliers and 3rd parties where sensible but equally we don't waste time & money chasing cases where there's reasonably limited chance of success. I don't know the specifics for this one (it's not my route/region) and I'm not trying to shirk responsibility but it's also possible that the cause could have been externally triggered too - for example, unfortunately, there's a lot of theft of cables going on at present, and signalling system power supplies are vulnerable and are still regular 'victims'.

[garynortheast]

Thanks for that Ruffy, interesting information.

I guess an underlying gripe for me would be the fact that the whole rail network has become so fragmented with privatisation, and all needs bringing back into public ownership, so that there is some means of providing oversight and coordination of the whole setup.

[Craig380]

I guess an underlying gripe for me would be the fact that the whole rail network has become so fragmented with privatisation, and all needs bringing back into public ownership, so that there is some means of providing oversight and coordination of the whole setup.

One of Labour's mistakes in the '97 - 2010 period was not reversing rail privatisation to retain the in-house pool of knowledge and engineering know-how.

It's no surprise that the railways in major European countries are nationalised, the transport companies come to the UK to run privatised operations.

[Sir Trev]

One of Labour's mistakes in the '97 - 2010 period was not reversing rail privatisation to retain the in-house pool of knowledge and engineering know-how.



I've not researched this but I'm going to guess that the contracts and compensation claims at the time made it a potential nightmare. Interestingly I read recently that Labour is not pushing to nationalise rail, energy or water in the next election either, unless they've changed their mind since that article was written.

[Ruffy]

I guess an underlying gripe for me would be the fact that the whole rail network has become so fragmented with privatisation, and all needs bringing back into public ownership, so that there is some means of providing oversight and coordination of the whole setup.
One of Labour's mistakes in the '97 - 2010 period was not reversing rail privatisation to retain the in-house pool of knowledge and engineering know-how.

It's no surprise that the railways in major European countries are nationalised, the transport companies come to the UK to run privatised operations.
Personal view from me (bearing in mind I came to the industry well after privatisation and the post-Railtrack re-jig and I have only a limited experience):


I think the observation about fragmentation is accurate (sadly)
I'm not convinced that public ownership is crucial. (IMHO, public/private need not be all or nothing: I still perceive many problems with many publicly owned organisations. And witness the disclosures coming out of the Covid inquiry - maybe some separation from that sort of influence, instability and micro-management is a good thing?)
I agree wholeheartedly about the oversight and co-ordination point. In theory the "Great British Railways" transition is intended to fundamentally restore some of that so should be a welcome step. (If only they'd allow it to be properly put into action by driving the legislation forward a bit quicker.)
I agree that in-house knowledge (and trust of those with know-how in such posts) has become an out of fashion concept (affecting many industries as it happens) and not always benefitting the country.

[garynortheast]

Morning orgers. No sign of the storm here so far. Barely a breeze and no rain yet.

[Luckypants]

Yep all quiet here too. Apparently we are due a lot of rain this afternoon. I'm not sure the winds will be too bad as its the channel and northern europe that seems to be suffering high winds. I'm keeping the house battery charged in case of power cut anyway.

[Craig380]

We have drizzle and a light breeze here , as Luckypants says I think it's going to mostly miss the North West and Wales.

[garynortheast]

Morning all. Another attempt to get into B'ham this morning. Hopefully no signalling problems this time!
What're everyone's plans for the weekend?

[admin]

Morning all. Another attempt to get into B'ham this morning. Hopefully no signalling problems this time!
What're everyone's plans for the weekend?To stay dry. Hope you make it this time Gary.

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[Craig380]

Likewise, hope you get there this time, Gary!

No plans here as it's forecast for a LOT of rain. So mostly watching the footie.

[Sir Trev]

Today I am mostly recovering from last night's annual bonfire night party at my neighbour's house. I had way too much to drink... Did get outside earlier to sort out some of the overgrown Mexican Orange Blossom prunings I did not have room for in the compost bins, but as I'm dodging the showers I'm mainly indoors trying to work out what to get Lady Poppy for Chrimbo.

[garynortheast]

Morning all. Cold and showery here.

I made it to Birmingham and back on Saturday, but not without a bit of a hiccough! The train from Aberystwyth to Shrewsbury was cancelled because of an obstruction on the line somewhere. Fortunately a friend who was also getting the same train gave me a lift to Shrewsbury and we got on the train there. All pretty straightforward after that.

Birmingham, especially the centre, takes it out of me. There's just no escape from the noise and the people, and it's quite depressing to see nothing but man made structures with so little greenery or natural features.

[redtrummy]

I avoid cities if I can Gary. Although the canal network around Brum can be quite pleasant in places.

[garynortheast]

Agreed, there are some quite nice bits. The place has changed a lot since I started going there in the early 80s. The canals in particular are so much nicer now.

[admin]

I heard there was a tree on the line Gary. I immediately thought of you. I don't mind cities in small doses, they do make you appreciate the countryside.

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[Craig380]

Agreed, there are some quite nice bits. The place has changed a lot since I started going there in the early 80s. The canals in particular are so much nicer now.

A group of us rented a narrowboat for a week's holiday back in the early 80s. Part of the route involved going through Birmingham's canals, and it was like something out of Peaky Blinders, all around was grimy, forbidding, semi-derelict industrial wasteland ... we didn't stop until we were well clear of the area!

[redtrummy]

I went on a walk along some of those canals along with several others. One guy with a good musical ear identified over 40 different birds in about two hours a lot from their song , me I managed about 6 by seeing them.

[garynortheast]

I heard there was a tree on the line Gary.

I wondered if that was the case John.

[garynortheast]

Morning all. Bit chilly out there this morning. Just off out on a mtb ride in Dyfnant with a friend, hopefully I'll warm up once we get going.

[garynortheast]

Well that was a fun ride. Kept it shortish (6 miles) as my friend has had ankle surgery a few weeks ago and she's trying not to overdo things.

Not as cold and muddy as I thought it would be, mtb only needed a quick wash with cold water and a wipe down with GT85 and ACF50 when I got back.

Mabel came with us, as did my friend's 5(!) dogs, and is now stacked out in her bed.

[Sir Trev]

Had a thin layer of frost to remove from the car windows before I could head to work today. Boo.

[garynortheast]

Still not had a frost here and still haven't needed to put the heating on!

[admin]

Broadband upgrade today from Fibre to Full Fibre. I was expecting issues but it's gone almost unnoticed. I was due to lose my landline in this process but it's still working, for now.

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[Seeker]

Still not had a frost here and still haven't needed to put the heating on!


What temperature are you comfortable sitting around in? 66°F/19°C is about my limit, but I'm old and skinny. :)

No frost here either but I've had my heating on for 3 or 4 weeks.

[Luckypants]

Broadband upgrade today from Fibre to Full Fibre. I was expecting issues but it's gone almost unnoticed. I was due to lose my landline in this process but it's still working, for now.

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Early start for the engineers or was the physical work already completed?

[admin]

Early start for the engineers or was the physical work already completed?I think they just threw a virtual switch in the exchange. It's still fibre to the cabinet.

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[admin]

What temperature are you comfortable sitting around in? 66°F/19°C is about my limit, but I'm old and skinny. :)

No frost here either but I've had my heating on for 3 or 4 weeks.Same here. I still have the occasional fasting day to keep my weight in check and I really feel the cold then.

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[garynortheast]

Morning orgers. Rain here for the next couple of hours so I may need the waterproofs on for a walk with Mabel.

What temperature are you comfortable sitting around in? 66°F/19°C is about my limit, but I'm old and skinny. :)

No frost here either but I've had my heating on for 3 or 4 weeks.

When I do turn the heating on it's set at 17°C - 18°C. When my hands get cold I'll put the heating on for a while, but for now I just put an extra warm jumper on.

This bungalow seems to be fairly efficient at holding on to the heat. I spend a fair amount of time outside and I always notice the warmth indoors when I open the door to come back in.

I sure when we start getting frosts I'll need to switch the heating on, but at the moment even with temps down at around 6°C outside, it's ok indoors.

[Luckypants]

I think they just threw a virtual switch in the exchange. It's still fibre to the cabinet.

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So not 'full fibre'? When Openreach and all ISPs talk about 'full fibre' they mean Fibre To The Premises rather than Fibre To The Cabinet. I took it to mean you were getting fibre to your home and 1Gbps capability? What speed will you be getting now John and what was your old speed?

This stuff interests me as my rural location is low on the priority list for FTTP roll-out.

[admin]

So not 'full fibre'? When Openreach and all ISPs talk about 'full fibre' they mean Fibre To The Premises rather than Fibre To The Cabinet. I took it to mean you were getting fibre to your home and 1Gbps capability? What speed will you be getting now John and what was your old speed?



This stuff interests me as my rural location is low on the priority list for FTTP roll-out.Mike, I agree, Plusnet call it full fibre for some reason, marketing nonsense probably.
My speed before was 36meg with phone line etc. it's now 63meg but no landline phone number.

It's saved me a fiver a month, doubled my speed but removed my landline, which I never use anyway. Also Openreach is slowly converting analogue landlines to digital over the next year or so landlines are being phased out.
The new router (which I haven't used) has a phone socket to convert your existing phone to VoIP I guess. The router is the same as the BT hub only it's white. So I assume BT customers can keep their landline number at an extra cost I think.

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[Luckypants]

Thanks John, yes its a PITA when incorrect terms are used for fairly technical items for marketing reasons. I know things need to be simplified for the average consumer, but using the right terms consistently does help avoid confusion. 63mbps is not too shabby and is probably good enough for most people - certainly we can stream almost everything we need on our 32mbps line. I'd like FTTP for greater reliability and speed, as we currently push the limit of FTTC tech.

[admin]

I never had any problems with 36meg either Mike. Netflix etc all worked fine and the service was very stable. I would have stayed with that but why pay more for a slower service. I'll be interested to see if service levels remain the same at the higher speed.

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[Craig380]

I remember reading somewhere that the domestic download speeds now available usually exceed the delivery speeds from the content providers' servers ... I'm not sure if that's true anymore with the likes of BT's CDNs etc

[Luckypants]

Which is how it should be. A content provider's server should stream at a rate that gives the quality they want, removing the consumer's connection as a potential bottleneck improves the ability to do that. Remember though that in many households more than one streaming service is in use simultaneously by several devices, therefore it is essential that the broadband connection exceeds a single virtual connection's demands. Once above 200mbps for the internet connection, the limitation becomes the home network (WIFI usually) and people are now looking at using CAT3 wiring to utilise the raw connection speed.

[garynortheast]

Morning all. Rain has finally stopped, and there's the prospect of some sunshine later this morning. Going to make the most of it and get out for a good walk with Mabel.

[garynortheast]

Good morning campers. Be careful where you put those tents.

[garynortheast]

Morning all. Some clear, dry days would be nice now for a few rides. Truly fed up with all the rain.

[Craig380]

Wouldn't it just! Although I'm in Macc hospital at the moment getting my back sorted so ideally the dry weather could wait until I'm out :-)

[garynortheast]

Ow! Hope they sort it properly for you Craig.

[admin]

I'm at the hospital too but for my wife. She's having a brittle bone infusion.

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[Craig380]

Ow! Hope they sort it properly for you Craig.

Thanks Gary. Good thing is, hot & cold running painkilkers, so very little pain.

[Craig380]

I'm at the hospital too but for my wife. She's having a brittle bone infusion.

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All the best to you both, John. Zolodronic acid?

[admin]

That's the stuff. Drip feed into the arm.

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[garynortheast]

Good luck John, hope it goes well.

[admin]

Nothing to it Gary. It's just a intravenous drip feed once a year for three years and then another bone scan.

I think Craig's visit was much more intensive.

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[garynortheast]

Ah good, glad it's a straightforward procedure. I knew nothing about the treatment so wasn't sure how complex it was.

[garynortheast]

Morning all. Grey day here, not very inspiring!

Taking someone with no transport of their own to a local garden centre this morning so that they can get a few bits they need. I'll have a chat with one of the staff about bare root fruit trees while we're there.

I won't be walking far with Mabel today. We were out yesterday in the forest and she managed to snap off half of one of her back claws while she was running around chasing squirrels. I think it's a bit sore so a couple of days of rest are in order while it starts to heal.

[Craig380]

Squirrels: caninekind's oldest foe ;)

[Sir Trev]

Poor Mabel. Give her a hug from all of us.

[garynortheast]

Morning all. Blue sky and sunshine here. Roads are wet though so there could be a few icy patches here and there.

[Luckypants]

Yep, we've had a frost overnight.

[garynortheast]

Morning all. Wet morning here but it's supposed to dry up a bit later.

I seem to be spending a bit of time travelling back and forth to the midlands lately. Train ride to Wolverhampton today, for a little memorial service at the Quaker Meeting House for an old friend of mine who passed away a few weeks ago. I never made it to his funeral because I had covid, so I'm keen to go for this.

Managed to get a bit of gardening in yesterday, but I think anything else I do in that area is likely to be in the greenhouse or the potting shed, as the weather forecast is pretty dire for tomorrow.

What's everyone else up to?

[admin]

Grandsons here for the weekend. I'm exhausted already.

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[garynortheast]

Morning Org. Wet n' windy here this morning. There were supposed a few of us getting together to plant bulbs and plug plants on a grass bank here this afternoon, but the forecast is so poor we've postponed it.

A day indoors I think...

[Craig380]

Same here from what I can see out of the window. I'm glad my bike was clean, with a mist of FS365 and the chain lubed when I put it away after my most recent ride, otherwise I'd have to get my son to clean it :-o

[garynortheast]

Same here from what I can see out of the window. I'm glad my bike was clean, with a mist of FS365 and the chain lubed when I put it away after my most recent ride, otherwise I'd have to get my son to clean it :-o

:smt046 :smt046

[Sir Trev]

Managed to clear up most of the fallen leaves this weekend between the showers, washed the pots I used earlier in the year, and decided to strip and clean my hedge trimmers. The last one proved to be very sweary, but I blame Mr. C for showing how reasonably straightforward (his take, not mine) it was to service Stihl kit. His latest 'Tube video shows him servicing a monster stone cutting saw, so I dived in to one of my similarly orange trimmers. Got the blades clean and it's much easier to sharpen them one at a time in the vice, but reassembly is a sod as one blade jumps off its pin if you're not super careful. Got there in the end, and it runs sweet. Mercifully the other one has the same mechanism so when I'm less tired I'll do that one too.

[garynortheast]

Morning all. Sunny this morning , so off out for a walk with Mabel. I shall need to keep an eye on her as her claw is still not fully healed up.

[garynortheast]

Morning orgers. Chilly night last night - had to put the heating on for a couple of hours. Damn!

Off out into the hills today, leading a walking group on a local walk. Weather looks pretty reasonable here so, hopefully it'll stay dry.

I need to clean the bike this afternoon after yesterdays ride. It didn't get that mucky so won't need too much attention.

[Craig380]

I need to clean the bike this afternoon after yesterdays ride. It didn't get that mucky so won't need too much attention.

This is the thing I dislike most about winter rides. I just don't like putting it away / leaving it dirty after a ride. I have to clean it. I should get over myself and be less fussy, but I can't.

It's the reverse of when I was 17 / 18, back then I didn't care how filthy the bike was. Age doesn't always bring wisdom ;) :D

[Luckypants]

Morning orgers. Chilly night last night - had to put the heating on for a couple of hours. Damn!

Don't you have a thermostat to put the heating on? Ours comes on if its chilly enough and still some mornings it doesn't come on. This morning was one of those, it didn't come on early but then clicked on about 8:30. It's off again now.

[garynortheast]

Don't think there's a thermostat to turn it on Mike. There is a timer, but I've never managed to get to grips with it or make it work. I find it easiest just to turn it on when I need it really.

[Luckypants]

Sorry if my previous post seemed abrupt, having re-read the post it comes across that way. It wasn't meant.

I'm surprised there is no thermostat, but its possible they rely on TRVs (Thermostatic Radiator Valves) only and your timer. There's nothing wrong with turning it on manually, but you don't get the benefit of a warm house when you get out of bed.

My heating is 'on' all day with working from home and I rely on the thermostat to keep a comfortable temperature. We also have TRVs to prevent any room getting too hot and allows to keep some rooms cooler than others. E.G spare bedroom is turned down to about 14C normally and being above the living room is rarely heated. I invested in some thermometers a couple of years ago and went around setting the TRVs to a temperature we found comfortable. We were then able to reduce the flow temperature in our boiler since the radiators were closing off on the TRV. The lower flow temp means the boiler is more efficient as it spends most of its time in condensing mode. These measures reduced our oil consumption by about 20%. Good for the pocket and environment.

There are a couple more tweeks on my to do list to try and improve efficiency a little more.

[redtrummy]

The plumber that installed our heating convinced me a thermostat was not necessary some 13 years ago. (Just rely on the trvs) Every year I start thinking I wish I had one fitted but before I get round to doing anything about it the weather warms up and thats it for another year! We just about cope with the help of a knee throw over! (me, tight, who would suggest such a thing)

[Luckypants]

Retro fitting a house thermostat would be quite easy now we have wireless connected thermostats, it just needs the wireless receiver wiring in to the boiler. That could be done as part of the annual service if you were worried about heating being off for a couple of hours. You could take the opportunity install a 'smart' thermostat if that is something you wanted.

The thermometers really helped with getting the comfort level right with TRVs, so each room will be the right temperature for us. However, being humans, we can still feel cool or hot even though the room is the right temperature. We put on jumpers and take them off as how we 'feel' changes. My wife suffers most from feeling cool, but a doggy cuddle will help every time.

Running the boiler at lower flow temps helps reduce overshoot of the TRV set temperature as there is less latent heat in the water left in the rad when TRV closes, so feeling too hot is rare. The house thermostat (in the hall) will turn off the boiler to help prevent cycling when the house is about the right temperature. Boiler cycling can be harmful to the boiler and can happen a lot if all TRVs close at same time. Oil boilers suffer more if cycling occurs. The thermostat we have has an oil setting which reduces the amount it modulates the boiler when approaching set temperature and as longer 'on' intervals.

[garynortheast]

I didn't see your post as abrupt Mike so no worries. Just TRVs on the system here. It's not often I have the heating on in the morning tbh, as I tend not to be in the house long enough first thing. I'm usually out walking, running, or in the garden before it gets too late, so I'm generally quite warm from my exertions when I come back in. It's normally just the evening when I put it on, and only the rads in the kitchen, bathroom, and living room are on above frost settings. The temp is set to around 17C and any more needed warmth is generally achieved by putting on more clothing.
A situation dictated partly by choice and partly by economics - state pension...blah, blah, blah....

[garynortheast]

Morning all. I think we're in line for a spell of cold weather over the next few days. Could do with it really now my garlic is planted.

Got someone coming today to redo the electrics in my outbuildings. We agreed an exchange of labour; I sorted out his laptop for him a little while back so he's going to sort the electrics for me. I'll finally have a proper outdoor cable from house to shed, and lights in the different parts of the shed.

[garynortheast]

Morning orgers. What's everyone up to this weekend then.

We had a good frost here last night, first proper one of the season. A group of us are getting together to plant wildflower plugs and native Welsh (Tenby) daff bulbs on a long grass bank just round the corner from here. Not sure how we'll get on, hopefully it's just the grass that's frosted. I don't think it was cold enough for the ground underneath to have frozen so we should be able to get the bulbs in at least.

[Craig380]

Morning Gary. Hoping that I will have my procedure today. Was scheduled for yesterday, so I was nil-by-mouth from 2am Friday, only to be told at 10pm that it wasn't going to happen.

I understand it, my case isn't an emergency and people are being brought in with much more serious spine / neuro injuries, but it's frustrating. So let's see what happens today.

[admin]

Fingers crossed for you Craig.

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[garynortheast]

Good luck Craig, hope they get you in and sorted today. Keep us posted.

[Craig380]

thanks both - just been told I'm 'high on the list' for Monday now. C'est la vie.

[Sir Trev]

Good luck Craig. Same thing happened with The Monkey and her jaw surgery. Cancelled previous day, cancelled after waiting eight hours at the hospital, third time the charm. It used to be you could claim compo after three fails so you were almost certain to get seen on the third try at the latest.

[Craig380]

thanks, Sir!

[redtrummy]

Thanks LP re the thermostat info- must make the effort to look into it. Cheers

[garynortheast]

Morning all. Frost free and relatively mild this morning, so off out for a walk with Mabel shortly. We're even forecast to get some sunshine later, so maybe I can give the bike a bit of a clean this afternoon.

[Luckypants]

Morning Gary. I was pleasantly surprised this morning how light it was (i.e. not pitch black!) walking the dogs. Hi-vis on still of course, but much more pleasant.

[garynortheast]

Morning Mike. Funnily enough I was thinking the same about the light levels at 7.30. We're just over three weeks from the shortest day and it was weirdly light.

[Luckypants]

Yes, no light on in the office today and solar panels pushing out 200W already. Might get a useful bit of power today.

[Seeker]

thanks both - just been told I'm 'high on the list' for Monday now. C'est la vie.


Have you had the op Craig?

[garynortheast]

Have you had the op Craig?

I was wondering the same thing. Hope you've been sorted Craig.

[Craig380]

Hi both, thanks for asking. Op didn't take as the surgeon couldn't inject any cement, the vertebra was too hard apparently! So awaiting the next procedure, which will be pinning the L3 & L4 vertebrae together. Date not fixed yet, but it should be done via keyhole so less intervention than you might think.

[Seeker]

Hi both, thanks for asking. Op didn't take as the surgeon couldn't inject any cement, the vertebra was too hard apparently! So awaiting the next procedure, which will be pinning the L3 & L4 vertebrae together. Date not fixed yet, but it should be done via keyhole so less intervention than you might think.

So, that's good news?

[admin]

That's a shame. Let's hope you don't have to wait to long for the next procedure.

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[Craig380]

Yeah, it's pretty good news. I can have fun at airports, now :)

And importantly, back on the bike after 6 weeks :D

[garynortheast]

Morning org. Cold and clear skies here this morning, although a bit misty at ground level. A few jobs to catch up on today; moving a load of grass and vegetation from the grass bank and meadow area in front of the estate to some big compost bins at the old workhouse, y Dolydd, and collecting a couple of trailer loads of wood chip for my garden paths. Should keep me busy!

What's everyone else up to?

[admin]

Just popped into Halfords to get a 27mm socket. Then off to the recycling centre with some old carpets. I'll drop my rear wheel off at Honda for a puncture fix. I need to pick up a birthday present for my sister too.

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[garynortheast]

Mission accomplished. I now have a 4" think layer of wood chip on the paths around all my raised veg beds. That should mean bringing a lot less mud into the house.

[Bibio]

Mission accomplished. I now have a 4" think layer of wood chip on the paths around all my raised veg beds. That should mean bringing a lot less mud into the house.

make a welly horse (put wellys upside down on it) and keep it outside your door.

[garynortheast]

I never wear wellies Bibs, I hate wearing the things. I just end up with athletes foot because they make my feet too warm and sweaty! I always use a pair of lace up work boots.
However, no mud now that my pathways are all woodchipped.

[Bibio]

ahh ok mind you wood chips look better than mud