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Nods head at lots and lots of what flymo just said (though not the bit about doing up to an hour a day - though I'd like to).
Please do share with us what you're doing. This (stretching) is something I'm trying to develop to support my fitness and wellbeing efforts generally.
Seconded! (I was beaten to posting that)
+1, sounds like you are doing really well getting back into it and clocking the miles up again nicely :grin:
It'll come back just as quick. I assume the shin splint injury is now behind you?
I'm not sure. Was fine then but not quite right today :-(
Ah lovely day for a run :-)
Just back from my weekend long run, a step back week this week so 10 miles. 1h 25mins with a short break half way so pretty pleased with that.
A few mid week runs and then up to 15 miles next Saturday. Only a couple of months until the marathon now :shock:
I need new trainers and was thinking of moving away from the Nike Triax 11.
Anyone any recommendations out there? I am a size 9 shoe but found I needed a size 9.5 Nike trainer. If you recommend a trainer can you tell me if you needed to go up or down of your normal size for them to fit?
I have a pair of barely used Mizuno Wave Nirvana's, you can have at cost - 16 miles.
Go to page 128 of this thread for info. Most shops stock them, so if you can find someone with stock of them go try them.
9.5 too so perfect in terms of sizing for you.
I need new trainers and was thinking of moving away from the Nike Triax 11.
Anyone any recommendations out there? I am a size 9 shoe but found I needed a size 9.5 Nike trainer. If you recommend a trainer can you tell me if you needed to go up or down of your normal size for them to fit?
After the recent experience I've had I personally wouldnt buy any running shoes that I havent seen on a video gait analysis machine. Once you've identified ones that suit you they can be bought from anywhere.
I have a pair of barely used Mizuno Wave Nirvana's, you can have at cost - 16 miles.
Go to page 128 of this thread for info. Most shops stock them, so if you can find someone with stock of them go try them.
9.5 too so perfect in terms of sizing for you.
Which version of Wave are they?
Edit: Checked.
After the recent experience I've had I personally wouldnt buy any running shoes that I havent seen on a video gait analysis machine. Once you've identified ones that suit you they can be bought from anywhere.
I will certainly try them in a shop before buying a pair. I have already done gait analysis but far more extensively than a running shop does it. Specialists at the hospital :) They have basically stated any structured trainer fitted with my orthotics are good enough.
What a cracking day for a run - **** day at work again so I ran down the river to the 02 dome and back through greenwich into the park and round.
Really warm and sunny out, just over 7 miles in the end slow pace for the first 4.5 miles with a couple of pals from work. Next week proper training starts.
Still my total for Feb is 87 miles with just tomorrow to go.
mon morn-6 miles
wed morn- 4 miles
fri morn- 5 miles
+
mon night circuits
wed night boxercise
thur night circuits
chris8886
28-02-09, 12:49 AM
mon morn-6 miles
wed morn- 4 miles
fri morn- 5 miles
+
mon night circuits
wed night boxercise
thur night circuits
good on you bread man, you must be fit as a fiddle by now with all that!
New trainers have been ordered and should be with me by Monday. Triax 12's. Will then be back out there. A whole week off running again. My target of 1200 miles this year is now way off schedule. :roll:
its been a good week....
Sunday - rest
Monday - rest
Tuesday - 3 miles
Wednesday - 7 miles
Thursday - 4 miles
Friday - rest
Saturday (today) - just finished a 15 mile run, 2h 22min.
I am sitting here totally knackered after todays run, that distance really takes it out of you. I have a Southern Comfort here though :-)
Rest tomorrow and Monday before cracking on again. Less than 2 months to the London Marathon.
Nice one Flymo...have you been doing any work with fuelling etc for the big day? Drinks, gels and food?
Good to try this stuff out early, so you know what works for you.
I did and really had it sorted, but then decided to drink the drinks en-route and felt sick after about 15 miles - bl00dy lucozade.
Nice one Flymo...have you been doing any work with fuelling etc for the big day? Drinks, gels and food?
Good to try this stuff out early, so you know what works for you.
I did and really had it sorted, but then decided to drink the drinks en-route and felt sick after about 15 miles - bl00dy lucozade.
I've had a try with carrying water, Lucozade energy drinks etc. I seem to get on fine with the Lucozade although they can get a bit heavy after 10 miles or so :-)
I have a couple of gels here to try so might have a go next week on my 16 miler. Do you know what they provide on the London Marathon? Is it just water or energy drinks?
They provide you with water at every mile and lucozade in pack/bags every 5km I think.
Try using just squash lightly diluted. I drunk quite a lot of water during the marathon just because it was there and it really dried my mouth out, so I took Lucozade which gave me dodgy guts and really wished that I'd had my diluted squash with me, which I ditched at the last minute. BIG MISTAKE!
There are loads of gels out there, but I found the most palatable was a SiS Go gel in Orange, doesn't have to be taken with anything either unlike some of the others which need to be swilled down with water.
I also took malt-loaf with me on all my longer training runs and really missed it on the day.
Takes a while to get it right, but once you do stick with it.
I have one of those water carriers that fit on your back. I use it for runs 10 miles and over.
Trainers arrive today (hopefully) so will be back out on the roads tonight. Woohoo.
Tim in Belgium
02-03-09, 10:04 AM
I think I'll head out after a boozey week's skiing. My main hope is that sleeping at an altitude of 2100m combined with some high altitude exercise has helped me maintain a modicum of fitness. At least spring appears to be slowly on its way :)
I did a HR run yesterday, ended up getting lost and doing 12.25 miles..............
I have one of those water carriers that fit on your back. I use it for runs 10 miles and over.
. i have got used to managing without water, although 6 miles has been my futhest to date, i find chewgum helps,
anywho, i see tescos have those water back pack things, for about a tenner, which i plan to get, as i want to get up to ½ marathan distance, but its 6 litres, which is 6kg i know you dont have to fill it, but it seems a bit much?
today i did
6 miles in 55mins
today i did
6 miles in 55mins
Get yourself booked up for a 10k run then mate......55 mins is a good time.
Get yourself booked up for a 10k run then mate......55 mins is a good time.
is it?
i will look into it then, there is a guy in the gym that does about 60miles a week, and has done over 100 marathans, he is always telling me about upcoming runs, and i think im ready for a 10k.
i have got used to managing without water, although 6 miles has been my futhest to date, i find chewgum helps,
anywho, i see tescos have those water back pack things, for about a tenner, which i plan to get, as i want to get up to ½ marathan distance, but its 6 litres, which is 6kg i know you dont have to fill it, but it seems a bit much?
today i did
6 miles in 55mins
I chew gum for the first mile or two, then spit it out when my pace increases. You can get packs that will do 1 or two litres. That should be plenty. My last 10 mile run I drank about half a litre. There is no way you want to be drinking 6 litres of fluid whilst running.
55 minutes for a 6 mile run is going well. You would not be ashamed doing a 10k with that time. There will be plenty of people behind you.
My first 10k was something like 57:59.
I don't take a drink with me at the moment and to be honest didn't need one yesterday. I threw my water bottle carrier away in the marathon as it started rubbing me, but I am going to get a new one as my mileage is increasing.
i have got used to managing without water, although 6 miles has been my futhest to date
I had done the same but when I got beyond 11 miles at the weekend i began to feel some fatigue. I think you can get away with it on shorter distances but when you run out of fuel it can happen fairly suddenly.
I'm going to read up on this through the week and check out the difference next Saturday when I do 16 miles.
There is no way you want to be drinking 6 litres of fluid whilst running.
.
no, i know.
TBH you would not need 6litres for anything?
maybe i read it wrong?
I had done the same but when I got beyond 11 miles at the weekend i began to feel some fatigue. I think you can get away with it on shorter distances but when you run out of fuel it can happen fairly suddenly.
I'm going to read up on this through the week and check out the difference next Saturday when I do 16 miles.
No you are quite correct, I wouldn't go further than that without anything. I have to say I preferred having drink with me a sipping the whole way round, so I am def going to get a new Hilly bottle carrier.
I believe Ed used to run halfway stop at a shop and get a drink then run back, I tried this, but if I stop I struggle to restart.
http://www.sportsaver.co.uk/acatalog/Hydration_Packs.html?referrer=Google_Hydration&gclid=CI32gOCnhJkCFQ2ZQwodhRClnA
http://www.sportsaver.co.uk/acatalog/Hydration_Packs.html?referrer=Google_Hydration&gclid=CI32gOCnhJkCFQ2ZQwodhRClnA
they were only £8 in tescos;)
they were only £8 in tescos;)
http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.100-0611.aspx
im noit sure if it means it holds 6litres of water, or the size of the bag is 6litre?
is it?
i will look into it then, there is a guy in the gym that does about 60miles a week, and has done over 100 marathans, he is always telling me about upcoming runs, and i think im ready for a 10k.
Go for it Hovis, you are ready for it and will do really well :D.
I don't carry any water when I run no matter how far but I do chew gum sometimes :)
http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.100-0611.aspx
im noit sure if it means it holds 6litres of water, or the size of the bag is 6litre?
It holds 1.5 litres of water. I have the same one.
It holds 1.5 litres of water. I have the same one.
D'oh
i was thinking 6 litres is a bit much to carry:rolleyes:
i think i will get one then, it will come in handy for when im on the trtials bike to
another good training week,
16 miles yesterday for my long run, takes me to 32 miles total for this week.
I spent alot more attention to what I eat before and during the run this time and it was loads easier than the 15 miler last week. I was tired but it was more aches from running rather than exhausted muscles.
Porridge with sugar and honey in the morning, a banana and some raisins to eat along the route. Also carried a bottle of Lucozade sport as normal but added a Carbo Gel every 45 mins. Worked wonders.
A step back week next week, a nice relaxing 12 miler! Not many long runs to go now before I begin to taper off for the marathon itself.
cool........... looks like your doing great
i did
mon-6 miles
wed-5 miles
thurs-5miles
im planning 7 miles for this monday, which is the futhest i have been, but i think its going to snow?
thats cool, you're getting to the point where the distance no longer matters. if you can do 6 then you can do 7, then you can do 8 etc
I found that 10 miles was a really big psychological milestone to pass, but also that pacing begins to get important. Unless you are an athlete you cant belt out of the start on a 10 miler and finish in the same condition.
im looking to do a few 10k organised runs now.
also i want to get my distance up to ½ marathon, i dont ever plan on running futher than 12 miles
i have been out drinking, and ate badly this week, so i have put a few lbs on. but i enjoyed my self, so im not that worried, i have it in my head i want to see 11 stone on the scale, i dont care if its just 1lb under 12 stone............. got to see 11:rolleyes:
flymo - Did you ever post anything about stretching?
flymo - Did you ever post anything about stretching?
Sorry no I didnt, just about to shoot out for lunch but I'll try to put something up a little later today.
also i want to get my distance up to ½ marathon, i dont ever plan on running futher than 12 miles
just realised that doesnt add up :-)
Half marathon is just over 13 miles.
I'll try to put something up a little later today.
:-) :cheers:
After finally getting my new trainers and getting back out running, I have managed to injure my knee due to a rather clumsy fall. I can barely walk at the moment. :roll:
just realised that doesnt add up :-)
Half marathon is just over 13 miles.
maths is not my strong point........ but what i meant was ½ marathan is probably the futhest i would think of doing. im hoping to be able to get up to doing 10 mile runs on a weekly/fornightly basis..... then just do a half marathan now and then
After finally getting my new trainers and getting back out running, I have managed to injure my knee due to a rather clumsy fall. I can barely walk at the moment. :roll:oh dear, your not having much luck are you
Porridge with sugar and honey in the morning, a banana and some raisins to eat along the route. Also carried a bottle of Lucozade sport as normal but added a Carbo Gel every 45 mins. Worked wonders.
i did 7 miles in 67mins
normaly i have porage with rasins for brekfast, then run about ½ an hour later.
im still not drinking/eating anything on the run, just chewing gum.
but i think im getting to the point where i may need somthing........ what do you recomend?
Hovis up to HM distance you don't need to eat on the run. Your body stores enough glycogen (stored form of carbohydrate) for about 18 miles, that is why 'the wall' is said to be at 18 miles in a marathon.
You need to eat a reasonably high carb meal the evening before a race and something in the morning a couple of hours before.
Just ensuring you are hydrated should be enough for a long run, if you take sports drinks they work better for you than normal drinks as they have a relatively high sodium content which helps with re-hydration. I always find they dry my mouth out though.
Flymo needs to eat through the early stages of the marathon to replace the glycogen in his stores before they become too depleated.
Carb gels are very good if you can stomach them.
:-) :cheers:
Right, lets see how this goes. Describing stretches might not be the easiest thing I've ever posted :-)
Ok, I try and vary the stretch routines as its rare I get time to do all of them at one time.
I've been told that its almost pointless doing proper stretches until you are partly warmed up to start with. So depending on the length of the run I'm doing...for a short run I might lightly jog the first mile and then stop to stretch before carrying on. For anything over 4 miles or so I tend to spend 5 mins just getting warmed up, shuttle runs, jog up and down, star jumps etc. This warms up your muscles and allows them to stretch properly without straining them.
I tend to start with a stretch to the quadriceps. Stand firm and upright with a hold on something if you need. Bring one leg up at a time so that your heel touches your bum and hold with your hand. Keep your knees together when you do this. To optimise this stretch push your hips forward. Hold that stretch for 10 seconds (dont count too quick). Swap legs and repeat. Do 6 of these per leg. If you count properly thats at least a couple of minutes.
Next I stretch my hamstring muscles. Loads of ways to do this but I prefer this one. To stretch the right hamstring, slightly bend your left leg and extend your right leg forward so that your heel is resting on the floor about 6 inches infront of the toe of the left foot, your foot angled upwards at around 45 degrees. To enhance this one try and push your hips backwards. You should feel this really strongly in the back lower of your leg. Same again, hold for 10 seconds, 6 reps per leg.
Next I move onto my calf muscles. Careful with this one not to do too much if it hurts. feet together about 3 feet away from a wall or something you can support yourself with. Move your right foot backwards about 2 feet and place it firmly on the ground. Keeping the heel of that foot firmly on the ground and the leg straight, lean forward to the wall and you'll feel the calf tighten and stretch. Go as far as you feel comfortable but dont overdo it, hold for 10 seconds. 6 reps each leg.
Lastly I usually do a groin stretch, sat on the floor put the soles of your feet together. With your elbows on the inner part of your knees lean forward and press your knees towards the ground. hold for 10 secs then relax. 6 of these.
There are others that I do throughout the day but the above before a long run. One other that works wonders with my weak back and also helps with my running speed is a back extension. Lie face down on a carpet or grass etc. Legs out straight behind you as if you are about to do a press up. Put your toes together and your heels apart, this makes it more difficult to tense your bum cheeks (which you want to avoid). Next put your arms in a press up position and attempt to peel your body up starting from the head, much like a peice of velcro. The aim is to curve your spine backwards as you extend your arms. If you can straighten your arms without your bum coming off the ground you are doing well.
And thats it! I do this at the start of my runs, but more importantly do it properly at the end of your runs. Your muscles are warmed up and loose at this stage and will benefit from the stretching you give them.
If any of that garbage makes any sense let me know :-). It works for me.
Hovis up to HM distance you don't need to eat on the run. Your body stores enough glycogen (stored form of carbohydrate) for about 18 miles, that is why 'the wall' is said to be at 18 miles in a marathon.
You need to eat a reasonably high carb meal the evening before a race and something in the morning a couple of hours before.
Just ensuring you are hydrated should be enough for a long run, if you take sports drinks they work better for you than normal drinks as they have a relatively high sodium content which helps with re-hydration. I always find they dry my mouth out though.
Flymo needs to eat through the early stages of the marathon to replace the glycogen in his stores before they become too depleated.
Carb gels are very good if you can stomach them.
KR, I found through trial and error that it can be a bit of a lottery where the wall strikes unless you've eaten well in the days leading up to the long runs and as you say a few hours before. I suppose that if you are starting on 25% capacity you will run out of energy long before 18 miles. In my case I was totally exhausted after 15 miles the other week, after eating properly and using gels through my 16 miler I was on top form at the end and could have run longer. It really helped.
Porridge is excellent due to its complex carbohydrates. I'm told that carbs are what you need leading up to and during a long run, followed by high protein for fast recovery afterwards. I chose to eat tuna mixed with mayonnaise after my 16 miler. I recovered so quickly this week that I was out for a meal leass than 2 hours after gettign home. Diet makes a huge difference in my case.
I've tried eating raisins along my run but its not easy :-) I ended up with as many raisins on the floor as in my mouth. Any other popular foods to run with ?
I used to eat malt loaf on the longer runs and in the marathon. It tasted nice and was an easy eat, got a bit stuck to your teeth, but hey ho.
Slow release carbs for the days leading up to a big run, things like brown rice, brown pasta etc.
The night before you should eat a biggish fast release carb meal, so normal white pasta etc.
In the morning something like toast with honey is best for me, as anything with too much milk makes me feel a bit sick.
A coffee is also a good drink as the caffine can have a psoitive effect on the run.
Protein for recovery is spot on mate, I used to use a recovery drink called Rego as I can't stand tuna etc. I had a 'For Goodness Shake' after my 13.5 miler on sunday. Spent the rest of the day in my skins under my jeans and could quite happily have run today.
Recovery is every bit as important as the training.
Jelly Babies are high in sugar so will definitely give you a quick boost, but anything with a reasonable amount of carbs in it would be best.
Worth trying some jelly babies though as you will be offered millions during the marathon.
Jelly Babies are high in sugar so will definitely give you a quick boost, but anything with a reasonable amount of carbs in it would be best.
Worth trying some jelly babies though as you will be offered millions during the marathon.
would american hard gums do the same?
oh and theres 100 cals in 5 jelly babies
...oh and theres 100 cals in 5 jelly babies no wonder those things have a belly on them!
I've avoided sweets etc totally for running mainly as I'm going long distance, carbohydrates are far more useful along with energy drinks and carbo gels. They provide the necessary fuel for your muscles.
Trouble with sugary sweets is that you get a boost followed by a downer shortly afterwards. For short distance or sprinting then fill your boots. I've heard of sprinters taking a spoonful of neat honey right before running.
Try the Cadburys Boost thats 'loaded with glucose'. I did an 8 miler the other day after eating one and it was like rocket fuel.
lol
those gels are quite expesive arnt they?
i just dont like carrying stuff, one of those belts with water bottle may be ok, but i would only want small bottles, as im thinking the 1litre bottles are too bulky
lol
those gels are quite expesive arnt they?
i just dont like carrying stuff, one of those belts with water bottle may be ok, but i would only want small bottles, as im thinking the 1litre bottles are too bulky
yeah you wont need much. I managed a 16 miler with 2 gels (one after 45 mins) and a single bottle of Lucozade Sport (500ml).
On a marathon we are lucky enough to have drinks stations so you dont have to carry that much. For 12 miles or so I wouldnt bother with a belt, just hold a bottle in your hands.
Flymo - If you are relying on the drinks stations in the FLM then start preparing using the drinks available otherwise they will be a real shock to your system, they were to mine. The Lucozade handed out is the orange ones in the sachet type ones and they can be very sickly.
Hovis - A bottle belt may seem like a bad idea but I had a Hilly one, like this:
http://www.alexandrasports.com/8261/Hilly-Classic-Bottle-Belt.html
and it was big enough for some juice a few gels, my keys, my phone a bit of money and some malt loaf. Perfect for long runs and once you get used to it you barely know you are wearing it!
Flymo - If you are relying on the drinks stations in the FLM then start preparing using the drinks available otherwise they will be a real shock to your system, they were to mine. The Lucozade handed out is the orange ones in the sachet type ones and they can be very sickly.
Yeah will do, I havent even seen sachets of this, only small sachets of powder. Thats not what you mean is it?
The day is a bit of a blur really but it I think it is these nasty little buggers:
http://www.lucozadeshop.com/detail.asp?ProductCategoryFK=25&ProductPK=62
The day is a bit of a blur really but it I think it is these nasty little buggers:
http://www.lucozadeshop.com/detail.asp?ProductCategoryFK=25&ProductPK=62
Ah, not seen these. Nobody appears to have any as far as i can tell. Will have a hunt around to try some.
They are really sweet and orangy, but if you are not used to them they dry your mouth something chronic and then the vittel water makes it even worse!
worst case I'll have to carry a few bottles of Lucozade Sport. I'm used to carrying one but not two.
For 12 miles or so I wouldnt bother with a belt, just hold a bottle in your hands.
i dont like carrying a bottle in my hand while running, i end up drinking it all straight away, just so i dont have to carry it lol
im getting one of thouse backpacks that hold water, which will be handy for the trials bike, also i will get a small belt, with just 300-500ml bottle.
how about some dried apricots instead of jelly babies?
i dont like carrying a bottle in my hand while running, i end up drinking it all straight away, just so i dont have to carry it lol
im getting one of thouse backpacks that hold water, which will be handy for the trials bike, also i will get a small belt, with just 300-500ml bottle.
how about some dried apricots instead of jelly babies?
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/fruits-and-fruit-juices/1838/2
Dried apricots appear to be a good source of carbs so wouldnt do any harm. For distances up to 12 miles though not sure you need it. With a good porridge breakfast shortly before you run you should be fine. You shouldnt depleat your energy reserves in that distance.
If you get a hydration pack you can buy tablets to add to it to help hydration:
http://www.nuun.com/index.php
Not used them myself.
another strong week, the midweek miles are going up too now. Tues 4 miles, Wed 8 miles, Thurs 5 miles.
Day off tomorrow and a step back long run of 12 miles on Saturday.
Big push next week up to 18 miles on Saturday :shock:
I did 13.5 on Sunday, 8.3 Tuesday and a 10 miler today......aching a bit now and jealous of Flymo doing the FLM, I owe myself a good marathon.
and i thought i was doing well:eek:
20 miles this week
mon-7miles (67mins)
wed-5miles (47mins) + 1 hour boxercise
thurs-5miles (43mins) + 1 hour circuits
sat-3miles (5k parkrun) (?mins)
i was thinking of doing 6miles tomorrow, so that would be a marathan, but that would be 5 days without a break, and i dont want to overdo it, plus i may be a bit tired for the parkrun, i have no beat my last PB;)
I'm running a new schedule and it has too many rest days - 3 per week. Mind you I did a new HM PB today using it so it can't be that bad.
I knocked 34 seconds of my previous best and I wasn't really pushing it until after mile 8 when I thought a PB might be on if I stepped up the pace a bit!
1:45:46..........shame I didn't look at the watch earlier I could've been in for a sub-1:45......
That averaged something like 8:04 M/M with mile 13 being the fastest out of all of them. Which is really pleasing as it isn't a flat run!
I'm running a new schedule and it has too many rest days - 3 per week. Mind you I did a new HM PB today using it so it can't be that bad.
I knocked 34 seconds of my previous best and I wasn't really pushing it until after mile 8 when I thought a PB might be on if I stepped up the pace a bit!
1:45:46..........shame I didn't look at the watch earlier I could've been in for a sub-1:45......
That averaged something like 8:04 M/M with mile 13 being the fastest out of all of them. Which is really pleasing as it isn't a flat run!
thats pretty quick, faster than I currently run. Once I'm through my marathon I fancy having a look see what the best pace I can run might be for the shorter distances.
Every time I get a burst of pace I hold myself back knowing that I have many, many more miles to go :-)
Three rest days doesnt sound like too much to me, right on the button if you ask me. The marathon training programmes I've been following all suggest three days rest. One after the midweek training and two days after the long weekend run.
Zombie Jesus
15-03-09, 08:02 PM
My routine nowadays is 7km with a 200m sprint at 70/80% pace every kilometer. I reckon I can do 10-12km easy at my usual jogging pace.
thought my leg had fixed itself, maybe not :-(
thats pretty quick, faster than I currently run.
I have been running for a couple of years now, and I am not training for anything in particular. Your goal is the distance not the speed.........
What distance are you hoping to do before the taper?
Sarah - are you seeing anyone with the problem with your leg?
svdemon
15-03-09, 10:17 PM
I've gone and signed up for a half marathon in May, only problem is i currently can't run to save myself!!
Does anyone know of a site that i can get info on training plans etc??
I have been running for a couple of years now, and I am not training for anything in particular. Your goal is the distance not the speed.........
What distance are you hoping to do before the taper?
I have two more new long distances to do, an 18 miler next weekend and a 20 miler the week after. Thats it then, the distances reduce through the taper to the marathon.
After eating properly I did 16 miles without too much trouble, aching afterwards but only to be expected. I seem to be on target for my 4 hour marathon pace, only thing that will slow me down is wind (the weather variety :-) )or hot weather really.
I've gone and signed up for a half marathon in May, only problem is i currently can't run to save myself!!
Does anyone know of a site that i can get info on training plans etc??
Ouch, thats a pretty tall order. Do you have a card up your sleeve with some previous running form?
13 miles isnt as easy as it sounds if you've never done before. Of course its possible but its not going to be easy training in that short time. Assuming you are fit enough to do it injury will be your biggest risk if you ramp up too quickly.
I've found that the training plans from Hal Higdon are very useful, http://www.halhigdon.com/halfmarathon/index.htm
thought my leg had fixed itself, maybe not :-(
What is wrong with it Sarah?
svdemon
15-03-09, 10:50 PM
Ouch, thats a pretty tall order. Do you have a card up your sleeve with some previous running form?
13 miles isnt as easy as it sounds if you've never done before. Of course its possible but its not going to be easy training in that short time. Assuming you are fit enough to do it injury will be your biggest risk if you ramp up too quickly.
I've found that the training plans from Hal Higdon are very useful, http://www.halhigdon.com/halfmarathon/index.htm
Top man! I have no previous experience but i'm still reasonably young (27) so hopefully i can do it!!!
Or do you reckon i need more time? I would have 2 months to train. Run is 24th May!
Top man! I have no previous experience but i'm still reasonably young (27) so hopefully i can do it!!!
Or do you reckon i need more time? I would have 2 months to train. Run is 24th May!
Assuming you are fit and you dont have any injury problems then you could do it at a strecth, but as you can see at the link its a 12 week training programme.
Don't go mental though, work it out slowly to begin with so you don't get injured.
no PB for me on the park run, i was 55th out of 88.
25mins 18 secs. my PB is 24.33
although the packrun did take me up to 20miles last week
have a quiet running week Hovis - then have another crack this week. You'll see an improvement in time guaranteed.
I got pulled by the police yesterday, meat wagon with lights and siren!
No I'm not posting this in the wrong thread, I was running!!!!
They pulled alongside me and asked me to move off of the road and onto this ramshackle track thing.
I said I didn't want to break my ankles and was told "Well it's better than being run over!"
The road is really wide and you can see for well over a mile, I was right in the gutter so not causing an issue to anyone.
I couldn't be arsed to argue and didn't have enough spare breath left either, so di what I was told.
They then proceeded to drive off and pull into a side alley about 1 mile ahead of me and wait for me to go past.
I mean seriously, get a grip mate.
I got pulled by the police yesterday, meat wagon with lights and siren!
No I'm not posting this in the wrong thread, I was running!!!!
They pulled alongside me and asked me to move off of the road and onto this ramshackle track thing.
I said I didn't want to break my ankles and was told "Well it's better than being run over!"
The road is really wide and you can see for well over a mile, I was right in the gutter so not causing an issue to anyone.
I couldn't be arsed to argue and didn't have enough spare breath left either, so di what I was told.
They then proceeded to drive off and pull into a side alley about 1 mile ahead of me and wait for me to go past.
I mean seriously, get a grip mate.
What a plank.
Sarah - are you seeing anyone with the problem with your leg?
told my doctor about it at the beginning of january. i was hoping that it would sort itself out with some rest. but it hasn't. looks like i'm gonna have to go back.
What is wrong with it Sarah?
shin splint i think
I am still out as well. :roll: Went to the doctors this afternoon as I was a little worried about the fact over a week after the knock I still can't put proper weight on my leg. It seems I have possible internal bleeding which has caused pressure on the nerve behind the knee which in turn gives me numbing and pain down the leg and pins and needles in my foot. The end result of the visit was to stop whining and stop being so impatient. :lol: Doc reckons at least another two weeks before I will be running again. :(
I am still out as well. :roll: Went to the doctors this afternoon as I was a little worried about the fact over a week after the knock I still can't put proper weight on my leg. It seems I have possible internal bleeding which has caused pressure on the nerve behind the knee which in turn gives me numbing and pain down the leg and pins and needles in my foot. The end result of the visit was to stop whining and stop being so impatient. :lol: Doc reckons at least another two weeks before I will be running again. :(
how annoying. you have my sympathy.
I am still out as well. :roll: Went to the doctors this afternoon as I was a little worried about the fact over a week after the knock I still can't put proper weight on my leg. It seems I have possible internal bleeding which has caused pressure on the nerve behind the knee which in turn gives me numbing and pain down the leg and pins and needles in my foot. The end result of the visit was to stop whining and stop being so impatient. :lol: Doc reckons at least another two weeks before I will be running again. :(
OUCH!!! You was cracking in some mileage too!
I was. January I was on track for 1200 miles for the year having completed 101 miles. February was a wash out after having destroyed my trainers and having to wait for new ones. Just started chucking the miles back in when this happened. Oh well.
Just take it easy Si and try not to get too frustrated, easy to say I know not so easy to do!
svdemon
17-03-09, 07:04 PM
Went for my first run tonight, i was out for half an hour and managed to run for a total of 8 minutes!!!!
I'm going to go back out on thursday night and try to do more. Next week i'll do mon, wed, fri nights (mornings would be great but i'm not a morning person!)
Went for my first run tonight, i was out for half an hour and managed to run for a total of 8 minutes!!!!
I'm going to go back out on thursday night and try to do more. Next week i'll do mon, wed, fri nights (mornings would be great but i'm not a morning person!)
Slow down, you'll stay running much longer! When you first start your tendancy is to go faster until you actually feel like you are running, by this time you are shagged!
Slow down and run at a continuous pace.
Don't worry about stopping and walking either, I know of people who have walk/run/walk/run a faster marathon than I did.
Do you have proper running shoes?
Jinxy43
17-03-09, 08:38 PM
Hi guys and girls
Just looking for some advice please, I injured my knee (multiple cartilage tears) playing rugby just over 2 years ago.
After being given the ok to return to sport, I need to start running again
(I was doing 2 X 5 mile runs, 2 X rugby training and 2 rugby games a week)
Any help in training schemes, trainers, clothing would be greatly appreciated, as I have not done anything since that fateful day.
Cheers and thanks in advance
svdemon
17-03-09, 08:41 PM
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa47/svdemon_2007/Trainer.jpg
Those are my trainers, i thinki need to go out for longer and run/walk like you say. Take my MP3 too.You're dead right about trying to go fast i am very impatient that way.
SVDemon - If you are serious about trying to do the run you will need some help and a decent pair of trainers and running socks will really help prevent you from getting injured and make the whole experience more enjoyable.
There are loads of running shops around that will give you good advice on the correct shoe for you. I believe there is a sweatshop in Edinburgh and the is also a Run and Become.
http://www.runandbecome.com/edinburgh.html
Get down there, they'll sort you out.
Jinxy - Have you been doing anything since your injury? Will running be ok?
SVDemon - If you are serious about trying to do the run you will need some help and a decent pair of trainers and running socks will really help prevent you from getting injured and make the whole experience more enjoyable.
There are loads of running shops around that will give you good advice on the correct shoe for you. I believe there is a sweatshop in Edinburgh and the is also a Run and Become.
http://www.runandbecome.com/edinburgh.html
Get down there, they'll sort you out.
+1. Also dont under estimate a half marathon. 13 miles is further than you might initially think. You need to approach it properly, it certainly isnt a walk in the park.
+1. Also dont under estimate a half marathon. 13 miles is further than you might initially think. You need to approach it properly, it certainly isnt a walk in the park.
Very good point - I run about 35-40 miles a week at the moment and I could still really feel it after doing a half-marathon on Sunday.
13.1 miles is a very long way and something you need to be really prepared for, it can be done though.
svdemon
18-03-09, 07:14 PM
SVDemon - If you are serious about trying to do the run you will need some help and a decent pair of trainers and running socks will really help prevent you from getting injured and make the whole experience more enjoyable.
There are loads of running shops around that will give you good advice on the correct shoe for you. I believe there is a sweatshop in Edinburgh and the is also a Run and Become.
http://www.runandbecome.com/edinburgh.html
Get down there, they'll sort you out.
I'll check that place out - thanks. I'm sore today which i suppose is a good thing! I'm going to go out again tomorrow night and see how i get on.
I take it its normal to be sore for the first while? Stretching and a hot bath for me tonight!!!
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