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Going shopping tomorrow. I am on rest now until the start of next month. I will start the month with a new pair of trainers. I have set a little competition with someone. Who can complete the most mileage in July.
got the ½ marathon this saturday, so just did 5 miles today 27 degrees, too hot for running
saturday just gone i knocked another 20 seconds off my 5000meters PB.
i love running:geek:
I went for a 2.5 mile sprint yesterday. Did it in 15:30. Knees are still playing up and am now on the verge of quitting for a while. Just can't seem to stop myself from running at the moment. Didn't get my trainers either. Maybe this weekend coming.
I had the best run I have had for ages, planned to do 13 miles, but got lost and did just under 16 in the heat - felt brilliant too!
Only problem was I now have a running very shaped sunburn...
Well done Hovis, so what is your PB now? Be careful on the weekend mate and make sure you take on plenty of liquid, preferably with electrolites in.
Si - I know how hard it is to take your foot off the gas but be careful mate.
Well done Hovis, so what is your PB now? Be careful on the weekend mate and make sure you take on plenty of liquid, preferably with electrolites in.
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its 22.10 (from 29.30) i have only done about 10 parkruns and had 8 P.B's
there is water stations every 2 miles for the marathon, i was not going to bother carrying any fluid?
Blimey mate my 5k PB is 22 mins dead, I take it that my record will soon be gone!
I am going to take it easy during the week. Like not run. But I am doing this run once a week on a Saturday.
what the....just come back from the gym from a lunchtime 3 miler...the guy next to me in the changing room puts his shoes on before his trousers. :-) What's that about?
what the....just come back from the gym from a lunchtime 3 miler...the guy next to me in the changing room puts his shoes on before his trousers. :-) What's that about?
You mean you don't? Weirdo.
You mean you don't? Weirdo.
:-k
eh? and more to the point mate, why was you watching some dude get dressed...
Just cooled down from running a very hilly 10 miles home, at one point I went past a shop display 33.6 degrees, digital temp sign. Still managed to make it just, all I need to do is manage to make it back the other way in the morning.
eh? and more to the point mate, why was you watching some dude get dressed...
I was comparing technique.
That sounds even more worrying - :rolleyes:
Talking of technique and at the risk of a slight derail, any tips for my first full Brands outing on Thursday?
Blimey - that was a tough run in this morning after last night, although that said it is a very good sign of my fitness levels I suppose!
im going out in a bit just for 4-5 miles, then rest till the ½ marathon on saturday
im going out in a bit just for 4-5 miles, then rest till the ½ marathon on saturday
although i realy cant be bothered.
but its the last chance before saturday:smt010
Wait til saturday morning you will be raring to go! Good luck mate.
just been for a 6 mile sauna, i mean run. 52.20
I just broke the 10 min mile barrier this morning for the first time in a long time, 9.49, well impressed.
well done stew, not bad in this weather.
i have just worked out i need to do -9 min miles to complete the marathon in under 2 hours.
well done stew, not bad in this weather.
i have just worked out i need to do -9 min miles to complete the marathon in under 2 hours.
9min 9 sec isnt it? that was the marathon pace I aimed for.
9min 9 sec isnt it? that was the marathon pace I aimed for.
probably.
have you used one of those pace band?
i guess if i stick to 9 min miles i can work it out in my head
(9 times table)
well done stew, not bad in this weather.
i have just worked out i need to do -9 min miles to complete the marathon in under 2 hours.
Thanks, just pleased to be out running again without any injuries, good luck for your half, first one ?
yeah, 1st one.
im looking quite forward to it
probably.
have you used one of those pace band?
i guess if i stick to 9 min miles i can work it out in my head
(9 times table)
yeah, I used a pace band. Can always drop it in your pocket if you dont like wearing one.....or sellotape it around your drink bottle.
Those 9 seconds add up after a while :-)
I can't do maths normally let alone when I have run a few mile!
yeah, 1st one.
im looking quite forward to it
Ive done 3, but none for quite some time, really enjoyed them, dont forget to enjoy it, drink loads and pace yourself, dont get caught up in the rush at the start, but Im sure you know that already ;)
there is water stations every 3 miles, im thinking of not bothering carrying water,
the thing is, i have been training fir this for a few months, i have done 13 miles 2 weeks ago, so im sure i can do it,
but, i now have nothing to train for, im thinking a full marathon is too much, but a few months ago i could not see me doing a ½ marathon, i would love to do london, and i think i will regret not trying, i just wished i started running years ago,
Well if you fancy a challenge what about this ?
http://www.hellrunner.co.uk/index.htm :smt118
Edit; check out the vid :smt077
Well if you fancy a challenge what about this ?
http://www.hellrunner.co.uk/index.htm :smt118
Edit; check out the vid :smt077wow
that looks like fun
I did this last year and thouroughly enjoyed it.
http://www.grimchallenge.co.uk/grim-original/
and this
http://www.britmilfit.com/events/5_10K.aspx
i just got a text message from the chairman(?) of the running club i joined a few months ago, they have asked me to represent them in a 4 mile relay race next month, and he quoted me as their fastest runner (in the slower group).
as i hold the 5km record.
:p
i just got a text message from the chairman(?) of the running club i joined a few months ago, they have asked me to represent them in a 4 mile relay race next month, and he quoted me as their fastest runner (in the slower group).
as i hold the 5km record.
:p
oooooo, get you :-)
nice one Hovis
Anybody having problems reaching mapometer lately (formerly mapmyrun.com)? Hasnt been available for ages.
Anybody having problems reaching mapometer lately (formerly mapmyrun.com)? Hasnt been available for ages.
I just used it to plan a trip, no problems
I've had no problems with it either.
I've had no problems with it either.
Do you use the free version ? was thinking of going down the paying route, think its only $3 a month or something.
I use the free version. Can't see what more I would want. What do you get for the pay version?
Dunno, I use the free version, all I can see is that you get rid of that annoying advert on the screen,and you can minimize that anyway other than that not sure.
i use it, the old link, just takes you to the new one
http://gb.mapometer.com/en/
ah its working fine. its getting blocked by one of our firewalls. works fine via a North American proxy but fails through Europe. Nothing like a consistent infrastructure eh.....and this is nothing like.
302nd out of 637 in 01:58:47.
so i only just did it in under the 2 hours
we went up friday afternoon, and my mate is the chaiman of the local boating club, so we slept on a barge friday night, they looked a bit rouggh, but were suprisingly comfertable.
we started on the beer 3pm friday, the plan was just to have 1 or 2, but we ended up having 6 pints, which looking back was not a good idea, but the sun was out, and we were on holiday.
woke up sat morning, with no hangover, and felt fine, we got to the start 1 hour early, so we asked if we could start sooner, which we did, i was advised not to take my mp3 player as i would not enjoy the atmosphe... but im glad i did, as there was no atmosphere,which may have been down to the fact we started with the faster runners, the course was mostly single file, so you did not realy get to talk to people, it was all along the canel from wolverhampton to birmingham, and there were boats which doubled up as water stations, every 2-3 miles.
at 4 miles there was a tunnel we had to go through, it was about 400 yards, very dark, and the floor was very uneven and slippy, they did try to light it with torchs and glow sticks, but it did not realy help, saying that it was strangely nice running throug it
there were quite a few bridges to go over as well, which took it out of you a bit
i think i was ok up untill about 9 miles, then i started hurting a bit, and the last 3 miles realy seemed to take for ever, the finish line was around a corner, so you could not raely see it until you were about 20 foot away. i crossed the line, but forgot to stop my watch, as i was quite emotinal, got my medal, then had to wait about 10mins for my mate, i left him at about 3 miles, and it turns out he had cramp at about 10 miles, and struggled.
then saturday afternoon, back on the beer, with all the guys that were on the boats, but had a hotel for the night
all in all it was a great weekend away, and will do it again next year
Excellent result, well done Hovis. I bet you felt great crossing the finish line.
yeah. the finish could have been better marked, as there was no countdown, and as it was round a bend, you did not know it was comming, but there were people clapping so i had an idea it was close,
just a few pics
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/album.php?aid=104487&id=674877632&ref=mf
well done mate - sub 2 was what you wanted too, so all good.
No pics as no facebook!
Why did you do the run in your boxers? Did you forget your running shorts?
Congratulations. :cool:
thats the worst pair of shorts I've ever seen Hovis :-)
Why did you do the run in your boxers? Did you forget your running shorts?
Congratulations. :cool:i wanted to "stand out" (look more like a **** than normal)
thats the worst pair of shorts I've ever seen Hovis :-) thanks
yeah. the finish could have been better marked, as there was no countdown, and as it was round a bend, you did not know it was comming, but there were people clapping so i had an idea it was close,
just a few pics
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/album.php?aid=104487&id=674877632&ref=mf
Awesome Hovis:cheers:, you have achieved so much with your running this year :cool:. Pics are good, not sure about the shorts though ;).
01:58:47.
congrats! that's brilliant :cool:
thank you.
woop..... my running club is entering a few teams in a 4 x 5000meters next wednesday
i had been picked to represent/captian the slower group, but there was talk of me being "poached" by the medium group last night.
Gents a bit of advice here. Decided to get off my ass and start running again. Now I'm about 12st7, 5'9 so not exactly overweight but for running I wouldnt say I wasnt a skinny build.
Anyway, I went out last night and did a 2 mile run (Gauging by the mapmyrun website) and found that I was ok to run to the mile mark, but once I hit that, my lungs hit a wall yet my legs were still fresh. I had to stop about 3 times over the 2nd mile yet when I got in I still felt like my legs were good.
Is this a sign of being unfit? I wasnt running it fast and was conscious of my pace, as in the past I have hit an aerobic maximum way too early. This time it just felt like I couldnt run anymore!
Advice?
Gents a bit of advice here.
Advice?
Hi Rob,
Give your body time to adjust before you start worrying too much. Your legs are just one aspect of running fitness. Keep the distance to something you can manage with a little difficulty.
If you could run say 1.5 or 1.25 miles then stick with that for now and gradually up the distance. Assuming you can run 1 mile then do that distance maybe three times a week, Tues,Wed,Thurs maybe, whatever suits. then take a days rest and run a longer 1.5 miler on the Saturday. rest through to Tuesday the following week and do again. Try to run 2.0 on the long run at the weekend.
Every third weekend drop it back some, maybe do 1.5 miles say. So, something like;
week 1 - Tues,Wed,Thurs 1 mile, Sat 1.5.
week 2 - Tues,Wed,Thurs 1 mile, Sat 2.0
week 3 - tues,wed,thurs 1 mile, Sat 1.0 (stepback week)
week 4 - tues, wed, thurs 1 mile, sat 2.5
week 5 - tues, wed, thurs 1 mile, sat 3.0
week 6 - tues,wed,thurs 1 mile, sat 1.5 (step back week)
etc
There are many ways to skin this particular cat but the important thing is to build up distance slowly to avoid injury. Build in plenty of rest days, you'll be surprised how much this can help you improve.
You might find that you can comfortably cover distances that increase faster than what I've mentioned, but dont be tempted to do that too readily or you'll end up at home nursing a shin splint or some other muscle injury.
Id echo what Flymo said, myself I run every other day usually mon, weds and fri, with a longer run on a sun, although being a night shift worker I often have to plan things around my shift, one the most impoprtant things is rest and dont be afrid to walk as well, in fact run walking is quite common now, you could do something run 3, walk 3, x 5 taht would ahve you on your feet for sat 30 mins with plenty of breaks, main thing though is listen to your body, you,ll soon get into it, you might want to check there sites out as well
www.runnersworld.co.uk
www.fetcheveryone.com
theres plenty of info in both
HTH
Stew
p.s.just been out and did 5 miles in 53.00 dead, well made up with that :D
Yep - they're both right.
Personally I would stick with the 2 miler mate, and just try and get a bit further each time. Every other day is as much as you should do right now, until you feel your fitness improving.
Wouldn't worry about your weight either, I am an inch shorter and weigh more than you and manage to put in a few miles a week.
At the risk of repeating previous posts - Have you got proper running shoes? If you are serious about running go and get your gait analysed and but some shoes and socks.
Stick with it, don't be worried about the walk/run thing, it is a means to an end.
As Stewie says - take a butchers at Fetch very friendly and a useful tool for logging your mileage and how you feel.
Good luck.
I'm on week 5 of marathon training and did a 16 miler yesterday in 2:20, which wasn't flat out either so I'm quite happy with that. The one thing that is starting to concern me a bit is the amount of drink I seem to require these days, never used to drink that much. I guess it must be the humidity.
16 in 2.20, that's a solid sub 4 that is, nice one, Im just happy to be running injury free for the first time in long time.
16 in 2.20, that's a solid sub 4 that is, nice one, Im just happy to be running injury free for the first time in long time.
I desperately hope so I have another 96 days 9 hours and 36 mins until Abingdon, and I need that sub-4 so I can stop running these stupid distances.
I enjoy up to Half-Marathon, but marathon training is another level and takes too much out of you life.
I desperately hope so I have another 96 days 9 hours and 36 mins until Abingdon, and I need that sub-4 so I can stop running these stupid distances.
I enjoy up to Half-Marathon, but marathon training is another level and takes too much out of you life.
Is that the criteria? sub 4h and you are allowed to stop :-)
I think I might adopt that target.
That's the plan mate - sub-4 then stick to normal distances such as 10k, just looking at my schedule makes me knackered at the moment.
Sub-4 is a big ask for me as my first attempt was 4:34...but I am older and a little bit wiser this year.
Ok, well as I felt in pretty good shape this afternoon, I went out this time and did the same distance (2 miles) over the same route. I wont be training tomorrow so thought I'd go out today and give it another go. This time being conscious of distances, I clocked up just short of a mile & half before I needed to stop. I then took another 2 short breaks into the 2nd mile and completed the distance in 19 minutes. I walked the last 100 metres back to my house to cool down.
Dont know yet if I'm serious about running, but i'm using my most comfortable Reebok trainers for now and theyre ok at that distance. I'll go again on Wednesday and see what happens then as I'm away on the bike for a week after that. Made sure I got some stretches in as I could feel myself tightening up on the way in.
Made sure I got some stretches in as I could feel myself tightening up on the way in.
yeah this is very very important. try to allocate a good 5 or 10 minutes to stretch before and after a run. Ideally you need to warm up before stretching otherwise you risk injuring yourself from the stretch itself.
Take it easy over short distances for a while and ease into the training. You'll know when you are ready.
I did just over 11 miles (2 miles up hill) in 1h 33m on Sunday. Was quite happy with that. Considering entering a half some time soon.
Si - I thought you were cutting back the mileage?
I just went to have a verukka(sp?) removed from my big toe, but the bloke kindly refused due to the marathon training. He said he would need to inject it and then burn it, which would be fine for the next week but after that would be painful for a couple of weeks. So I had to re-book for after 18th October, it's not like I'll be able to walk after then anyway.
I stopped stretching about 2 months ago, I always use to stretch before a run, did my achilles, calves, quads, hamstring, back, neck etc, didnt rush them took my time to stretch out slowly, no bouncing or over stretching, but since not stretching Ive not had a single injury, dont know if its connected but thought Id mention it all the same.
Rob, stick with it mate,well done :D
I never stretch before a run, but always after.
I warm up with a recovery paced run and after 10 mins get onto faster pace. You always get conflicting opinions about static stretching.
I never stretch before a run, but always after.
I warm up with a recovery paced run and after 10 mins get onto faster pace. You always get conflicting opinions about static stretching.
I do the same, its just when I do it its all wheezing and coughing ;)
I never stretch before a run, but always after.
I warm up with a recovery paced run and after 10 mins get onto faster pace. You always get conflicting opinions about static stretching.
I do this but depends on what kind of run I'm about to do. Anything short and fast and I warmup followed by stretch followed by the sprint itself.
For a longer distance I tend to run 10 mins at lower pace, stop and stretch then continue. At the end I do a full 10 mins stretch.
Just wondering how many of us have entered the ballot for VLM ?
I have - hopefully if I nail my sub-4 at Abingdon and the missus gets in too I will run it with her as it is our 10th wedding anniversary 2 days after.
Oh and Flymo "SPRINT" please explain the meaning of this word, I have no concept?
I have - hopefully if I nail my sub-4 at Abingdon and the missus gets in too I will run it with her as it is our 10th wedding anniversary 2 days after.
Oh and Flymo "SPRINT" please explain the meaning of this word, I have no concept?
Basically, sprinting is what you do, bimbling is what I do. next...
Well if you two sprint and bimble, god knows what Im doing ;)
Well if you two sprint and bimble, god knows what Im doing ;)
meander? :-)
meander? :-)
that's me that is :-D
Well if you two sprint and bimble, god knows what Im doing ;)
No sprinting here fella!
We are all runners, just use slightly different paces.
Well my half' draws closer and closer (26th I think) and tbh my preparation has been pretty awful. Going to Glastonbury for a week didn't help and an indulgent weekend when I got back followed by a birthday weekend after than mean my waistline and training are in tatters.
Last night I thought I'd better get out and I realised it was probably my last chance to do a 'long run'. The furthest I've been is 8.5 miles. Last night I decided to aim for 10. When I got there I thought I'd push it a bit more. I was really pleased to find from entering it on mapometer.co.uk that I covered more like 12 miles (in 1:49 ~ 9 minute miles).
I still had something left in my legs (and CV wise I was fine) so I'm also more confident about going the full distance. That does assume of course that the day isn't too hot and that I manage to get my eating right so that I'm not bloated but do have energy.
One thing that worries me slightly is that my today I can feel it in my knees, something I've not experianced before (rest of my legs are understandly fatigued but not really painful).
One thing that worries me slightly is that my today I can feel it in my knees, something I've not experianced before (rest of my legs are understandly fatigued but not really painful).
DO NOT RUN WITH PAIN IN YOUR KNEES. Else you will end up like me. You must let your knees recover before running further. If you do not get to run again before the race, so be it. Believe me, running with knee pain is a sure fire way to end up with proper damage.
Now saying that, with pains in my knees, I am about to go for a 6 mile run. But then I am already a lost cause. :roll:
Stig I hear you and I'll try to do as you say. I know I left it late to do my long run but I am still glad I did it. I'll do something else Thursday (next planned run) if they aren't recovered by then.
From reading your previous post your knee problems are related to flat feet and problems running in orthotics. I have to say it did feel a little like how I could imagine my kneecap being pulled odly. I was wondering if other people get a similar thing when running distance, also if anyone has any comments on common causes of knee pain.
I did have knee problems or rather ITB problems in the side of my knee during my marathon training for this year. I was fine for months up to around 14 miles and then it just started one day 7 miles into a run, bam! I couldnt run.
It may be that you are just doing too much too soon after a period of inactivity. I started taking my stretches seriously, ordered a new running shoe after being properly fitted in a running store and did some physio.
Cant really offer a specific solution to your knee issues as I'm not qualified to know what I'm talking about, there are many types of knee issues each with there own solutions.
If you want to back off the running but still exercise do something low impact like cycling or swimming. You may not enjoy it but its a good way to keep training with a knee injury.
After a week of physio I ventured out after my failed 7 miler and it got me again at 2 miles! I thought it was all over. After taking it easy for a week or two I gradualyl built up the miles again and it was fine.
For my particular ITB problem I used a velcro strap for knee support from here http://www.physioroom.com/product/PhysioRoom.com_Jumpers_Knee_Strap/3112/38357.html
It worked superbly and allowed me to continue training without any pain at all.
Flymo - reply much appreciated. I never expected anyone to be able to offer a diagnosis, but ideas such as: new, fitted, shoes; stretching; too much - too soon; physio are all really helpful pointers of things to investigate.
In terms of running I just want to get through the half marathon in 11 days time. At that point I'm happy to stop running for as long as it takes to get sorted (and will be stopping for a while anyway).
I'll check out the link and see if there's anything to help with self diagnosis.
Thanks again.
Flymo - reply much appreciated. I never expected anyone to be able to offer a diagnosis, but ideas such as: new, fitted, shoes; stretching; too much - too soon; physio are all really helpful pointers of things to investigate.
In terms of running I just want to get through the half marathon in 11 days time. At that point I'm happy to stop running for as long as it takes to get sorted (and will be stopping for a while anyway).
I'll check out the link and see if there's anything to help with self diagnosis.
Thanks again.
Just looking at that link they show it fastened to the underside of the knee, for me I needed it fastened above the knee. The pain I had was very definately the IT band, a ligament that runs down the outside edge of the leg, if its particularly tight you can feel it like a thick elastic band.
When I got the pain it was like being stabbed in the outside of my leg at knee level, very painful. Another sign of ITB pain is that it can be felt much more when walking down steps.
Flymo - beat me, I was going to say ITB there ares some specific stretches for it.
I'll keep thinking about it but having just stood up and experianced the pain (whcih is a lot lot duller than being stabbed) it's definately on the outside of my knees (affecting both legs) and yes it probably centers just above the height of the kneecap. I also have a sensation in the kneecap, but it's probably not pain.
Just got back from my 6 mile run. Slightly over 7 minute mile pace. Thought it was a little faster but happy enough with that.
There are some specific stretches for itb, might be worth having a session with a physio and letting them have a look just to make sure, good luck with it though.
Did my first speed session this morning, not the greatest of build up,s mind, a 12 hour night shift preceded by about 4 hours of disturbed sleep on tues, however, did 3.3 miles, 1 mile as a nice warm up, 1 mile as a slowish warm down ans approx 1.3 miles of disjointed thrashing about looking like I was being in a break dancing comp :D ah well it,ll probably improve :rolleyes: possibly....
There are some specific stretches for itb, might be worth having a session with a physio and letting them have a look just to make sure, good luck with it though.
Did my first speed session this morning, not the greatest of build up,s mind, a 12 hour night shift preceded by about 4 hours of disturbed sleep on tues, however, did 3.3 miles, 1 mile as a nice warm up, 1 mile as a slowish warm down ans approx 1.3 miles of disjointed thrashing about looking like I was being in a break dancing comp :D ah well it,ll probably improve :rolleyes: possibly....
Nice!:D
2mths - do you have proper running shoes?
I have done too much running this week and my legs are hurting.
5 days - 52 miles.
2mths - do you have proper running shoes?
A pair of flymo's Kayano 15s (and a pair of 14s and a pair of 13s and a pair of 12s :-))
There are some specific stretches for itb, might be worth having a session with a physio and letting them have a look just to make sure, good luck with it though.
Sounds like a good idea. I'll talk to some people and see if can get a recommendation for a local one. I'm rather reluctant about doing these things though so it'll probably be after the actual run. But a good investment if I go on to do another or even try to go further sometime.
Are we talking running as in jogging, or running as in running your bike out
Running as in one foot in front of the other faster than walking pace. :)
A pair of flymo's Kayano 15s (and a pair of 14s and a pair of 13s and a pair of 12s :-))
Ive got a pair of Kayano 15, they're good, in fact I'd go as far as to say they are the reason Im running injury free at the min, btw did just over 10 k this morning and knocked 3 mins off my best time, get in :D
Ive got a pair of Kayano 15, they're good, in fact I'd go as far as to say they are the reason Im running injury free at the min, btw did just over 10 k this morning and knocked 3 mins off my best time, get in :D
I started running in Kayano 12's, then 13's, 14's and now have a pair of 15's which are my 7th pair of Kayanos. I have tried other shoes, but keep going back to these. I only get about 300-350 miles out of them though.
My Nike Equalon 3's are a close second though.
3 mins off a 10k is very good going, I wouldn't mind taking 3 mins out of mine.
I've been wearing Asics for about 10 years. The first pair were bought when I started doing a little running for the first time whilst at university and suffering from shin splints. I don't know what model they were, something I've been sad about ever since as they were awesome. From there I guessed my way around the model range for a while before working out \ deciding that Kayano's were where I wanted to be. Since then I've always bought them as general trainers and most of them haven't seen any running.
I find the 15s ok but they do strike me as feeling a different (worse) fit to the previous models. They are getting a little better with wear but still feel odd and never fully comfortable. I've done all my most recent training in the 15s though - my idea being to buy a new(ish) pair for training and run - after that I may well go back to my 14s as they still have life in them. The 13s I use for indoor sports and the 12s are for DIY :-)
Did 8 miles this morning. No idea how long it took but it was a nice run. :)
only 3 miles today
last monday i did 10, but the last 2-3 i got a bit of a pain on the top of my foot, wednesday i just did 5 miles, and it was ok, but wednesday night, i did circuit trainning, and i struggled.
my foot is slightly swolen, where your laces are,
i planed 4 miles today, but only did 3, and had to walk for a few mins at the end
Sounds like you need to back off and give it some time to recover. You can keep your fitness up doing other activities (cue moan about not wanting to do "other activities")
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