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not sure if i have the figure for the borat 1 peice:smt009
I didn't think he did either. Is that not the point with fancy dress :?: :wink:
Ran 6k last night carrying 4k in each hand.......even managed to out do my girlfriend :D Ankle feels pretty strong now.
What speed are people generally running at? I appreciate you only know if running on a treadmill.
when i was running, about 10kph, for about 30 mins. would do some sprints now and then, getting upto 18kph
but now i just walk/jog at 7kph on a 15% incline
Well I did it, 2 miles, 1 mile on the road the other mile in the woods behind my house, think I may need a sports bra though, me moobs were bouncing about all over the show, its a wonder I havent got a black eye :eye: still it was ok, must do it again some time :D
Well I did it, 2 miles, 1 mile on the road the other mile in the woods behind my house, think I may need a sports bra though, me moobs were bouncing about all over the show, its a wonder I havent got a black eye :eye: still it was ok, must do it again some time :D
good work :D
good work :D
Thanks, its really muggy up here today though, so quite happy with a really slow time tbh, just nice to get out again really
Thanks, its really muggy up here today though, so quite happy with a really slow time tbh, just nice to get out again really
my run ended up as more of a run/walk. soooo hot. and it's flipping hilly here too. feeling v pleased with myself for making the effort and getting out though.
Its that Big apes fault, him and his motivational speeches ;)
Well done all - put me to shame, I forgot my kit!
Hovis - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BORAT-LIME-THONG-MANKINI-FANCY-DRESS-STAG-SWIM-COSTUME_W0QQitemZ200239580750QQcmdZViewItem?hash=i tem200239580750&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318
Certainly keep you cool, anyway is it much different to yellow leathers?:D
Indicated speed on a treadmill lies. The longer your pace the faster you can run. It's a rolling road and unless you have either foot in contact with the ground all the time, distance will travel beneath your feet whilst you are doing nothing. I've had an indicated speed of 30mph on a treadmill by doing this. This also of course means distance travelled is a load of cobblers. But I guess it does make you feel better when it tells you you have just completed your 50th mile. :wink:
Its that Big apes fault, him and his motivational speeches ;)
Glad to be of service. :p
Indicated speed on a treadmill lies. The longer your pace the faster you can run. It's a rolling road and unless you have either foot in contact with the ground all the time, distance will travel beneath your feet whilst you are doing nothing. I've had an indicated speed of 30mph on a treadmill by doing this. This also of course means distance travelled is a load of cobblers. But I guess it does make you feel better when it tells you you have just completed your 50th mile. :wink:
But if the conveyor is set to 7 miles per hour, and you're on it for 1 hour, hasn't 7 miles of conveyor driven belt passed beneath your feet? I always thought the only real difference between a conveyor and the road is wind resistance.
went to work at 6am, an hour early today to use the gym, but it was closed, so ended up going for a run,
worked it out on google maps 3 miles
You lot guilted me into it and I did 5 miles lunchtime taking in the river from greenwich to almost the thames barrier and back. HOT HOT HOT though!
Hovis - Did you treat yourself to a mankini?
You lot guilted me into it and I did 5 miles lunchtime taking in the river from greenwich to almost the thames barrier and back. HOT HOT HOT though!
Hovis - Did you treat yourself to a mankini?
nice one.
i didn't run this lunchtime but i'm going swimming after work and running tomorrow lunchtime.
I did the Dartford HM this weekend, which was about 6.5 miles further than I had run since the marathon and it destroyed me totally, so getting out there today was really difficult, but my lunchtime running partner came back from injury and although I have hurt my heel I'm glad I went.
How's the 405?
But if the conveyor is set to 7 miles per hour, and you're on it for 1 hour, hasn't 7 miles of conveyor driven belt passed beneath your feet? I always thought the only real difference between a conveyor and the road is wind resistance.
Nope that's not correct.
Think of it like this, you are propelling yourself forward using your feet at 7 miles per hour on the road. You are only going 7 miles per hour for as long as your feet keep hitting the road at that pace. The conveyor is moving at 7 miles per hour regardless of what your are doing. Next time your on a treadmill, run using as big a stride as you can, you will find you can wind up the machine to unrealistic speeds and still be able to maintain running. This is because the belt is still travelling at a set speed whilst your 'floating' between strides.
Or put it another way, take as long a stride as you can on the treadmill and wind the speed up to as fast as you can keep up. Clock the speed and then try running that speed on a real road.
Nope that's not correct.
Think of it like this, you are propelling yourself forward using your feet at 7 miles per hour on the road. You are only going 7 miles per hour for as long as your feet keep hitting the road at that pace. The conveyor is moving at 7 miles per hour regardless of what your are doing. Next time your on a treadmill, run using as big a stride as you can, you will find you can wind up the machine to unrealistic speeds and still be able to maintain running. This is because the belt is still travelling at a set speed whilst your 'floating' between strides.
Or put it another way, take as long a stride as you can on the treadmill and wind the speed up to as fast as you can keep up. Clock the speed and then try running that speed on a real road.
this is starting to remind me of a certain treadmill+plane will it take off thread :smt120
I've had an indicated speed of 30mph on a treadmill by doing this. :wink: i dont believe you:confused:
Hovis - Did you treat yourself to a mankini?no
not yet
i dont believe you:confused:
Bothered :?:
Nope that's not correct.
Think of it like this, you are propelling yourself forward using your feet at 7 miles per hour on the road. You are only going 7 miles per hour for as long as your feet keep hitting the road at that pace. The conveyor is moving at 7 miles per hour regardless of what your are doing. Next time your on a treadmill, run using as big a stride as you can, you will find you can wind up the machine to unrealistic speeds and still be able to maintain running. This is because the belt is still travelling at a set speed whilst your 'floating' between strides.
Or put it another way, take as long a stride as you can on the treadmill and wind the speed up to as fast as you can keep up. Clock the speed and then try running that speed on a real road.
I'm perplexed. If I'm running on the road my feet are both off the ground between every stride, I don't come to an abrupt halt when that happens. :) Unless I hold myself off the ground using the rails I can't cheat, nor would I be able to get my other foot back down in time if the conveyor was doing a speed I cannot run at on the road. A 30mph tread mill would smack you down on your face unless you are actually capable of pushing against the 30mph backward travelling belt with enough force to keep yourself in place, and still get your other foot forwards quickly enough to stop you face planting. Unless you can run (sprint) at 30 mph, there is no way on earth you could remain stationary on a belt travelling at 30mph.
I'm perplexed. If I'm running on the road my feet are both off the ground between every stride, I don't come to an abrupt halt when that happens. :) Unless I hold myself off the ground using the rails I can't cheat, nor would I be able to get my other foot back down in time if the conveyor was doing a speed I cannot run at on the road. A 30mph tread mill would smack you down on your face unless you are actually capable of pushing against the 30mph backward travelling belt with enough force to keep yourself in place, and still get your other foot forwards quickly enough to stop you face planting. Unless you can run (sprint) at 30 mph, there is no way on earth you could remain stationary on a belt travelling at 30mph.
Just try it and then come back and tell me you can run as fast on the road.
Just try it and then come back and tell me you can run as fast on the road.
i think you must me getting KM's and miles mixed up
i think you must me getting KM's and miles mixed up
You may have a point but the theory is still the same. You can run much much faster on a treadmill than you can on the road.
You may have a point but the theory is still the same. You can run much much faster on a treadmill than you can on the road.
I find that I appear to run much faster on the treadmill i.e can get up to 17kmph on the treadmill, only for 2 mins towards the end of my run. I start at 15kmph then move up to 16kmph and ultimately 17kmph however still cannot do 5Km in under 20 mins I am just over every time. However, when I run on the road I can do 5km in under 20 mins and don't feel like I am running as fast :confused:.
So I would say yes you can run much faster on the treadmill but not as far :o
I'm perplexed. If I'm running on the road my feet are both off the ground between every stride, I don't come to an abrupt halt when that happens. :) Unless I hold myself off the ground using the rails I can't cheat, nor would I be able to get my other foot back down in time if the conveyor was doing a speed I cannot run at on the road. A 30mph tread mill would smack you down on your face unless you are actually capable of pushing against the 30mph backward travelling belt with enough force to keep yourself in place, and still get your other foot forwards quickly enough to stop you face planting. Unless you can run (sprint) at 30 mph, there is no way on earth you could remain stationary on a belt travelling at 30mph.
I wouldn't even contemplate getting on a treadmill and doing 30mph as there is no way on this earth that I would upright. I would def be flat on my face :smt103. I nearly do that at 17kmph ;)
Treadmills are boring.Cant beat running on the road,or over the local country park or forest.
Treadmills are boring.Cant beat running on the road,or over the local country park or forest.
I totally agree :smt045
Tim in Belgium
01-08-08, 07:50 PM
Run up a hill, then down a dale, then up a moor, it knacks me every time.
You legs take more of an impact on the road though - so it is more difficult on the road.
My Garmin 405 has arrived. At last!!! Not tested it out yet though...
I managed ~3.5 mile run Friday before last. First time I've done that in a quite a while. Even better was that my shins weren't on fire afterwards. Mind you my legs hurt like buggery for about 5 days after, though going out on the **** after the run and then playing badminton the next day probably didn't help. I'm thinking of trying to repeat the feat again soonish and if it goes ok again look to maybe train for a 1/2 marathon next summer.
I got dragged to the gym yesterday by the missus, did about 45 mins on various torture equipment, before jumping on the treadmill for 25 mins, did a kinda run/walk thing, it was ok but prefer to actually outside doin it, however I havent actually run for a couple of weeks now, so I suppose anything is better than nothing.
I ran last week in Devon whilst on hols - man they have hills down there!!!!!
I ran last week in Devon whilst on hols - man they have hills down there!!!!!
I usually bring my kit with when we go to MILs in Falmouth. I really like the monster hill from Swanpool up the cliff to Golden Bank.
Having said that - I haven't been out running for months. I didn't have the time to do everything and decided that no way was I 'dropping' the bike so I dropped running. Waist has gone up a size - now 34. However as it's not humid today and as I've been reading this thread and missed a run, I'm going to get out tonight just for a few miles. Looking forward to it but I know that I will struggle mightily, even in my new Kayanos:D
There's a 10K here across all the bridges over the Severn in September, 21st I think, I'd like to be fit enough to enter and finish, not too bovvered about time, but around 50 mins would be very nice.
I'm still waiting for my hospital appointment for my knee. Grrrr.
I did 6 miles, had to stop half way but overall v v pleased with myself given I ain't run for months.
Smug git aren't I
lukemillar
12-08-08, 01:44 AM
Just finished the City2Surf run on Sunday! 14kms from Hyde Park to Bondi Beach - mostly up hill!
http://city2surf.sunherald.com.au/home2.php
Despite signing up late and being stuck in the back of the pack group with all the walkers and pushchair pushers (which was like running through a minefield for the first 3 km) I still managed a time of 68mins :smt026Very happy with this as I was going for 70 mins. Shame I won't be around next year otherwise I would push for under 60mins now I have a time and can start in a proper group ;)
Tim in Belgium
12-08-08, 06:46 AM
Luke I don't believe running to the beach is ever mainly uphill, unless you live in Holland!
lukemillar
12-08-08, 07:12 AM
Luke I don't believe running to the beach is ever mainly uphill, unless you live in Holland!
It goes downhill eventually! ;)
I've managed to do a bit this week:
10k Sunday
4.5 miles Monday
and last night 7.2 miles (really enjoyed that one too, went slow and chilled out)
However I now have sore nipples and **** brackets!!!! OUCH!!!!
gettin2dizzy
23-08-08, 04:34 PM
Here's a good training video:
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1827671
Here's a good training video:
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1827671
:lol:
I went for a run on Friday. Apart from realising how unfit I have become again in such a short space of time, I thought my knee would complain.
I managed the run OK and only suffered from mild knee ache over the weekend. Might go for another run on Thursday. Hospital appointment booked for 22 Sept.
WicklowSV
26-08-08, 01:35 PM
I'm managing to go running 3 times a week. There's a huge open space - about 5000 acres of open grassland- only 5 mins drive from home. With no cars and lovely soft even ground, it's a wicked place to go running. Loads of different routes to choose from too - but I've sorta settled on one in particular which takes 55-60 mins to complete. Not too sure haw far I'm running but reckon it's about 10k or a wee bit more. Must nip out with the GPS to confirm.
Two running buddies are a couple from Germany who moved over here. Both into fitness (she's a physio who used to cross country ski competitively) so I have to work hard to keep up! Means I do more than when on my own though...
Hope I can keep the 'habit' of running going. Easy enough to go each time - much harder to make sure I go 12 times a month!!
One of these days I'll fit back into those lovely Dainese leathers sitting at home...thats the medium term plan anyways! :D
Well you are all putting me to shame. I have not run for over a week jsut to be on the safe side after my off. Ankles were bruised amongst other things, anyway, I read this thread and thought I should definitely get myself out for a slow bimble in the morning to test the water. Can always decide on distance whilst I am out.
I love running in the mornings as it sets me up for the day. Kind of like having your batteries re-charged ;)
Tim in Belgium
26-08-08, 09:38 PM
Managed a 35 min burst round the village, super sweaty, nice. Finished off with press ups and pull ups as the local gym is being refurbished. Just about fit enough to start running on the hills again.
Managed a 35 min burst round the village, super sweaty, nice. Finished off with press ups and pull ups as the local gym is being refurbished. Just about fit enough to start running on the hills again.
That and mountain biking, impressive, do you ever stop?? ;)
Tim in Belgium
26-08-08, 09:52 PM
That and mountain biking, impressive, do you ever stop?? ;)
Only to find my phone ;)
When running long distances I find if you vary your 'gate' then it helps you go a lot further than if you kept the same running technique throughout the run!
By varying your gate, I mean like positioning of hips etc...hard to explain but I hope you understand me :)
Only to find my phone ;)
Ha ha, yes :D
Well, I went for a run and my ankles a still a little bit sore but still managed 4 miles :p
I went for a little run at lunchtime and I think I pulled a hamstring :-( Hope I can still do 10k race on Sunday.
Managed a new max heart rate today. 190bpm. Reckon I could have got it higher.
I went for another run yesterday. Knee is now complaining so I guess I've answered my own question about running. Damn it. :sad:
I went for a little run at lunchtime and I think I pulled a hamstring :-( Hope I can still do 10k race on Sunday.
Managed a new max heart rate today. 190bpm. Reckon I could have got it higher.
Oh dear. Best of luck for Sunday.
BernardBikerchick
29-08-08, 02:02 PM
did 5 miles on tuesday night and shin splints started up straight away grrrrrrrrrrr and stich and i hadn't eaten for about 4 hours ! kept on grunting which always works normally but even thatdid't work !
Well I've finally restarted after 6 - 7 months off. Pleased to discover that I can still run but going up the hills in Falmouth - there isn't a single level street in the town - was a bit embarrassing, but things can only get better:D
Sorry to read about your knee Si.
Does anyone on here have a Garmin Forerunner 305? If so, views on the device please? Am thinking of asking for one as a b-day prez.
Did 12 miles on Sunday was only going to do 8 but just kept on going :p
I went to the gym this afternoon and after 2 x 15 sessions on the rower and cross trainer I did 20 mins on the treadmill, thing is I get bored at the same pace so alter my pace, do say 1 min fast walk then say 2 mins 5 mph pace then slow it down and check me heart rate on the machine, at one point I estimate my heart rate was in excess of 190 + , it took 30 secs for the treadmill to read my HR and it was 186 approx 30 secs after I slowed the pace. Anyway does anyone know where I can find an online HR thing to give me an indication of if Im about to die or not ?
Thanks
Bluepete
09-09-08, 04:36 PM
Gradually getting back into it, five miles today, felt really good, but had to come back for afternoon sleep! Dark days screw with my head!
... does anyone know where I can find an online HR thing to give me an indication of if Im about to die or not ?
An often used guideline for Max heart rate is 220-age. The only better measure is to get it medically measured.
I'm not quite so sure on the recovery rate but I think it wants to have dropped by at least 12 bpm and more typically 20-30 bpm after 60 seconds.
Gym equipment isn't brilliant at measuring heart rate, it gets better if you use a chest belt (assuming the machine supports that - the top kit all does) or at that point get your own.
Varying the intensity of your workout is supposed to be good and provide better results in a given time frame than constant effort work. It does depend what you're training for though.
An often used guideline for Max heart rate is 220-age. The only better measure is to get it medically measured.
I'm not quite so sure on the recovery rate but I think it wants to have dropped by at least 12 bpm and more typically 20-30 bpm after 60 seconds.
Gym equipment isn't brilliant at measuring heart rate, it gets better if you use a chest belt (assuming the machine supports that - the top kit all does) or at that point get your own.
Varying the intensity of your workout is supposed to be good and provide better results in a given time frame than constant effort work. It does depend what you're training for though.
Then if thats right my max heart rate should 172, better slow down I think :rolleyes:
That's not the max you should get it to - it's more like the max you're likely to get it to. Then when working out what % of max you want to work at you can work it out.
The max also varies from person to person. A long time ago (that'd be 10 years for me) I used to be able to get my heat to about 90% of max and be there for ~5 minutes often in that time getting close or over my theoretical 100%. I don't use my belt much any more, I really ought to.
Don't belive the machines, they aren't accurate. I'm sure you've been on some that give a reading when you're not holding the paddles.
You'd need to do your own reading but I don't think there's any harm in stretching your heart in bursts, and often it's beneficial.
Tim in Belgium
09-09-08, 06:18 PM
There are methods out there for testing your max bpm, it depends on age, fitness, genetics, past health etc. But with some simple physical test (I think running or cycling banzai for 30s-1min or something) you can work it out, although you're only meant to use this method if you're quite fit in the first place. Don't take my advice though, I'm no trained professional and I'm sure there is some more on this on the web which goes into it a bit more...
Ed I have a 305 and a 405. The 305 wins it hands down, but is massive whereas the other is more of a watch.
Go for the 305 and save the pennies, I won't leave home without it cycling or running. Never use the HR monitor though as it is bloody uncomfortable.
Not run at all this week as I have been hit by a virus which floored me...on the mend again now, need to put some weight on and go for a couple of short runs :). It is amazing how much it sets you back :rolleyes:
Ed I have a 305 and a 405. The 305 wins it hands down, but is massive whereas the other is more of a watch.
Go for the 305 and save the pennies, I won't leave home without it cycling or running. Never use the HR monitor though as it is bloody uncomfortable.
Thanks for this. All I neded to know:D
Not run at all this week as I have been hit by a virus which floored me...on the mend again now, need to put some weight on and go for a couple of short runs :). It is amazing how much it sets you back :rolleyes:
Hope you are feeling better soon!
Ive just managed to find my old polarsport heart rate monitior, so will put new batteries in before I run again, probably tomoz with any luck, thanks for advice guys re the BPM.
Why can the heart rate monitor thing not work on the pulse in your wrist. I mean the pulse you feel anywhere in your body relates to pump of your heart. Surely they must have invented a heart rate monitor that works on a pulse rather than directly over your heart. :?:
Hope you are feeling better soon!
Thank you I am feeling much better. I went out for a five mile run yesterday morning and again this morning. It was nice and cool outside with a gentle breeze albeit a little foggy this morning and just took it easy :D.
I'm struggling at the moment, but managed a half-arsed 4.5 mile fartlekish thing along the thames just now. The problem is cycling to work 12 miles each way is killing me.
6 miles for me this morning before I went to work. No traffic, peace and quiet, nice bit of me time.
Did you go for a Garmin?
Birthday in 10 days time:cool:
i am suffering from a complete lack of enthusiasm :-(
Tim in Belgium
15-09-08, 09:04 PM
Ran yesterday after a weekend of a little too much beer and wine, nice and sweaty :)
Swam this evening, a quick 70 lengths. Now time to start The Swimming Thread ;)
Ed, I find I can't run first thing in the morning, is there a trick to it? I need food and time to digest first.....
Ed, I find I can't run first thing in the morning, is there a trick to it? I need food and time to digest first.....
Set the clock for about 20 mins before you want to go. Get up slowly and be sure to stretch very very gently. Nothing violent. Look out the window and smile that it isn't raining. Get your kit on. Drink glass of water. Grit teeth and head out the door saying 'Self, you can do this. Self, you bloody well are going to do this.' Set off slowly, no racing start. 5 - 10 mins later you're nicely warmed up and wondering what all the fuss was about:D
Set the clock for about 20 mins before you want to go. Get up slowly and be sure to stretch very very gently. Nothing violent. Look out the window and smile that it isn't raining. Get your kit on. Drink glass of water. Grit teeth and head out the door saying 'Self, you can do this. Self, you bloody well are going to do this.' Set off slowly, no racing start. 5 - 10 mins later you're nicely warmed up and wondering what all the fuss was about:D
+1 although I cannot drink or eat anything before I run in the morning. I do set off slowly and just ease myself into the run. Once I am warmed up I just naturally get faster but still do not allow myself to race on early morning runs.
i am suffering from a complete lack of enthusiasm :-(
What has made you lose your enthusiasm :shock:?
grh1904
16-09-08, 12:53 PM
I for one am not a great fan of running first thing. Muscles can stratech by up to as much as 15% throughout the course of the day, so the risk of injury is greatly increased bu running first thing (hence why stretching is soooooo important.
Also as a diabetic and insulin user (ran for about 10 years prior to being diagnosed, I cannot stress the importance enough of food intake etc.
But then again I suppose it comes down to personal preference, and what you're used to doing, and what works for you.
I love running first thing in the morning as it sets me up for the day. I feel more alert and awake throughout the day, ready to tackle anything that comes my way. Personally, I cannot run if I have eaten recently I have to wait at least an hour after eating before I run.
My long awaited hospital appointment was today. The main point is surgery is not required. Yay! Whoohoo!
It would appear the trouble stems from my broken pelvis and my back operation which fused three of my vertebrae. It seems my running style has changed to compensate the lose of movement. This has caused my muscles in my hips and legs to not work in a uniform manor and as such my knee has dislocated. The has had a knock on effect and caused the same issue with the other knee. :sad:
I am now on a course of 6 weeks physio, after this I will have my running studied and see if there is anything they can do to help.
That's the plan anyway.
Have they mentioned using orthotics in your shoes to alter your running gait at all ?
Just seen the post about dislocated knees.
Whilst at Uni I did attended a short lecture course in Biomechanical engineering. One of the stories the lecturer told was of a promising young rower who was beset by injury troubles... dislocated knees (I think of the knee cap actually). His rowing and training was studied (by the lecturer and a colleague) and the observation made was that he was training some muscles (don't ask me which) far more than others. The result was therefore an imbalance in the forces applied to the joint. As soon as this was observed they recommended some changes to the training regime and strength training exercises and voila all sorted.
So I think you should have hope.
My long awaited hospital appointment was today. The main point is surgery is not required. Yay! Whoohoo!
It would appear the trouble stems from my broken pelvis and my back operation which fused three of my vertebrae. It seems my running style has changed to compensate the lose of movement. This has caused my muscles in my hips and legs to not work in a uniform manor and as such my knee has dislocated. The has had a knock on effect and caused the same issue with the other knee. :sad:
I am now on a course of 6 weeks physio, after this I will have my running studied and see if there is anything they can do to help.
That's the plan anyway.Si, you dont need that, i can help right here, right now.
Stop running.
HTH :)
My long awaited hospital appointment was today. The main point is surgery is not required. Yay! Whoohoo!
It would appear the trouble stems from my broken pelvis and my back operation which fused three of my vertebrae. It seems my running style has changed to compensate the lose of movement. This has caused my muscles in my hips and legs to not work in a uniform manor and as such my knee has dislocated. The has had a knock on effect and caused the same issue with the other knee. :sad:
I am now on a course of 6 weeks physio, after this I will have my running studied and see if there is anything they can do to help.
That's the plan anyway.
Great news that you don't need surgery :D. I hope it goes well with the Physio and don't try and run in the meantime, unless of course your Physio says you can ;) Did you get your initial injuries through the Army?
Bigape - that's pretty good news mate. You just need to make sure that you are not tempted to do too much prior to the end of your physio.
Good luck with it - maybe we'll all meet up somewhere for a jog one day!
Have they mentioned using orthotics in your shoes to alter your running gait at all ?
Yup, she did. She said my flat feet wasn't helping the cause. :lol:
Just seen the post about dislocated knees.
Whilst at Uni I did attended a short lecture course in Biomechanical engineering. One of the stories the lecturer told was of a promising young rower who was beset by injury troubles... dislocated knees (I think of the knee cap actually). His rowing and training was studied (by the lecturer and a colleague) and the observation made was that he was training some muscles (don't ask me which) far more than others. The result was therefore an imbalance in the forces applied to the joint. As soon as this was observed they recommended some changes to the training regime and strength training exercises and voila all sorted.
So I think you should have hope.
That's pretty much the plan. First physio to get the knee cap back where it should be, then look at my running and develop a plan from there.
Si, you dont need that, i can help right here, right now.
Stop running.
HTH :)
Yup. Not running at the moment is indeed helping it to not hurt. :lol:
Great news that you don't need surgery :D. I hope it goes well with the Physio and don't try and run in the meantime, unless of course your Physio says you can ;) Did you get your initial injuries through the Army?
Well I did run a massive amount whilst serving. Mostly carrying weight, so I'd guess it has helped the process.
Bigape - that's pretty good news mate. You just need to make sure that you are not tempted to do too much prior to the end of your physio.
Good luck with it - maybe we'll all meet up somewhere for a jog one day!
Nope. I've tried that already and found out very quickly to only do what I am told I should.
Just need to wait and find out when the physio starts. Hope it's not long.
That's encouraging news Simon. Fingers crossed you get to see someone soon.
That's encouraging news Simon. Fingers crossed you get to see someone soon.
+1 and keep us updated on how you are getting on :)
Ive just added an app to my iphone which has turned it into a sort of running sat nav, it tells you your time, your distance, ave speed, actual speed, plus it keeps a log for further reference, it seems pretty accurate too, I estimated a run to be 2.5 mls and it came back with a distance of 2.33 mls, its satelite linked so should be accurate I suppose, the only downside is that it shows me just how slow I am ;) cant remember if it was 59p or £1.19, bit cheaper than a garmin though.
Ive just added an app to my iphone which has turned it into a sort of running sat nav, it tells you your time, your distance, ave speed, actual speed, plus it keeps a log for further reference, it seems pretty accurate too, I estimated a run to be 2.5 mls and it came back with a distance of 2.33 mls, its satelite linked so should be accurate I suppose, the only downside is that it shows me just how slow I am ;) cant remember if it was 59p or £1.19, bit cheaper than a garmin though.
But I don't have an iphone, I have an ancient Samsung E900. So I'd need to upgrade anyway.
Do any of you lot have trail/off-road shoes? I am thinking of doing x-country this year and actually have British Military 10k in a few weeks which is totally off-road/in rivers and plenty muddy.
I have a few pairs of running shoes already I could use, but would I be better buying some off-road bad-boys and if so which are the best.
I don't have any trail shoes and never have had. However many years ago (when I actually did semi-regular running) I did end up in woodland and through fields near Durham and there was a big difference between the three different pairs of shoes I used in that time.
My experiances:
HiTec Silver Shadows - they were pretty much as you might expect: offered no support, slipped on mud and roots and got killed quite quickly.
Adidas Cross-Trainers - rubbish and lethal. The torsion bar or whatever it was on the bottom was hard plastic and if that hit a root it was like stepping on ice.
Aasics ImNotSureWhat - just ordinary (pronation control) running shoes. I don't know the model sadly (they were the best trainers I ever had) they weren't offroad shoes at all but the make up of the sole meant actually they were pretty awesome.
So IMHO yes if you're doing to be doing an amount of x-country then I think you would benefit from the right footwear. Brusies or cuts wouldn't troubel you I'm sure but a bad fall could mean broken bones or twisted ankle and I'm either of those would cause you grief.
I'm afraid I can't offer any advice on what to look for.
First physio starts on Monday. I was talking to a friend of mine at work who mentioned he had the same issue as me. He had to be put in a full cast for 6 weeks before his physio started. Something to do with allowing the muscles to waste away to the same standard so they had a fresh point of start so to speak.
Sure hope that doesn't happen to me. :shock:
Anyway, there is now light at the end of the tunnel. Those trainers are getting close to be used again. Even if it is for the time being only physio work. :lol:
Dangerous Dave
09-10-08, 11:09 AM
Well just that really a thread for any runners on here that wish to share hints.
Run like a man, cross country with boots and a 45kg bergen.
Run like a man, cross country with boots and a 45kg bergen.
That's not like a man that's like a squaddie.
Do any of you lot have trail/off-road shoes? I am thinking of doing x-country this year and actually have British Military 10k in a few weeks which is totally off-road/in rivers and plenty muddy.
I have a few pairs of running shoes already I could use, but would I be better buying some off-road bad-boys and if so which are the best.
I had a pair of North face gortex off road trainers , verg good grip and water proof, although due to the chunk sole a bit heavier than most. I realised there is no point actually having gortex trainers as, as soon as you go in a pudddle deeper than ankle depth the inside get soaked. and being gortex the water stays there and sloshes about. they also take forever to dry out. IMO far better off getting a decent trainer that is not waterproof yet has a good grippy sole for mud etc.
First physio starts on Monday. I was talking to a friend of mine at work who mentioned he had the same issue as me. He had to be put in a full cast for 6 weeks before his physio started. Something to do with allowing the muscles to waste away to the same standard so they had a fresh point of start so to speak.
Sure hope that doesn't happen to me. :shock:
Anyway, there is now light at the end of the tunnel. Those trainers are getting close to be used again. Even if it is for the time being only physio work. :lol:
A full cast for 6 weeks :shock:, that doesn't sound good. Would you find out on Monday if that was to happen? Would you also have to be re-assessed for different trainers during/after your physio treatment?
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