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Im very envious of everyone doign so many miles. I'm working through one of the couch to 5k programs, doing run/walk intervals and so on. How important are shoes, do you just wear 'standard' trainers ie a general pair of Nike/Reebok etc or do you have specific running shoes. Has anyone been for gait analysis, is it worthwhile? Im doing most of my training so far on gravel paths/trails. Currently round a nice little lake (large pond). Aiming to step up to Tittesworth reservoir, my goal is being able to run the whole of Tittesworth (4.5 miles)
Dont be envious, everyone is at different stages and we all started from where you are now. You will be able to improve at a greater rate than any of us.
On the shoes, to start with I wouldnt worry too much but if this captures your enthusiasm as it did for me then yes you really do need to get a suitable running shoe that suits your particular gait. Dont guess, its false economy and you'll end up replacing them if you are lucky enough not to injure yourself, I know from experience that it isnt worth it.
Find a good running shop near you and ask for help choosing the right shoe, where are you roughly? There may be somebody on here able to recommend a good local shop. I use 'Up and Running' in Liverpool, excellent shop with good advice and gait analysis equipment. I also used the Asics store off Regent Street in London as I was passing and that is excellent.
Having a target like you've mentioned is the best way to start, once you've acheived that (and you will) then you can up the anti and find a new goal. Good on you. Keep us up to date on how you get on.
Hello peeps, just back, found some mojo and got out the door... thank you flymo - 4.58 miles in 42.16. That included a brief stop to adjust my iPod. So, about 9 min miling - no great shakes but given a lack of motivation it's OK I spose - certainly better than nothing:D
Ed, I'm taking a run up as we speak......................thwack! There, now get your ass out and get running! :-)
Ha - made me do it too, limped around a 10k run. No pain and a half-decent (for me) pace...
(actually it was watching Supersize Vs Superskinny that made me do it)
Tim in Belgium
25-03-10, 06:37 PM
Out in the States since early Monday. Running miles = 0 Food = lots, yesterday I even had deep fried cheese cake for desert (avoid it, it doesn't even taste nice!).
I plan to go running round the car parks near the hotel tonight before I explode, and will probably follow it up with a big steak. Not ideal marathon training, I think I'll have to trim down a bit before the event in two weeks and three days time.....
Tim in Belgium
25-03-10, 08:09 PM
I've just secured the hire car for the evening, so I'm off to run round LSU lake :)
It's currently about 23 deg C, but will cool a little, so shorts and T-shirt for the first time this year :D And plenty of college girls running too :cool:
Tim In USA!
You get about a bit mate.
I'm blue start!
how do you know?
Have you had your mag and instructions yet? It says in there!
I suspect you are too due to the number. Blue start is best!
Biggest start with the elites & me!
Have you had your mag and instructions yet? It says in there!
I suspect you are too due to the number. Blue start is best!
Oh yeah, just been looking through the mag. Soooooo much information. Been working out where would be the best to stay the night before: home or at my brother's place.
Do you already have the kit & shoes you are running in? Have you tried them?
Put them in the cupboard and don't touch them again or change your mind, everything inc. socks.
Where does he live?
Bow
Do you already have the kit & shoes you are running in? Have you tried them?
Put them in the cupboard and don't touch them again or change your mind, everything inc. socks.
Got new shoes waiting for me at the post office. Vest is being ordered by the charity this week so I don't know when I'll get that. Not decided about other clothing yet.
Bow
Got new shoes waiting for me at the post office. Vest is being ordered by the charity this week so I don't know when I'll get that. Not decided about other clothing yet.
Bow is pretty close by so that's probably best. Somewhere familiar = less nerves! Is he close to a DLR station?
Get some miles on them shoes then put them away.
Decide on your most comfortable/favourite kit now and put it away, one less thing to panic about once taper madness sets in!
Tim in Belgium
27-03-10, 10:58 AM
I can confirm LSU's lakes are ideal for running around, plenty to view.
Running in the warmth was great, so much so I went back for another run 6am the next morning, also handy in burning off the burger I'd had in Hooters the night before....
Foxy and I went for a 7.5 mile bimble this morning. Very nice it was too. Same again tomorrow Lisa?
Was intending to do Liverpool HM today but I woke up too late and my heart wasn't in it - so I bailed. Did 11.4 over to Montford Bridge (AR06 campsite, remember?) and back instead, deliberately doing slow - 9.5min/miling. Speed will come... I forgot:rolleyes: to bring some money with to buy a drink at the shop over Montford Bridge, so I was feeling dehydrated on the way back.
Bloody good work Ed, not only did you get your &r5e out of the door but you made me do it too - 11:04 and just back from 18 rainy mile...
Back at five past eleven at night? You're mad:cool:
Bloody good work Ed, not only did you get your &r5e out of the door but you made me do it too - 11:04 and just back from 18 rainy mile...
wow, well done!
Just did a 10 mile lunch time run. Okay so I over extended my lunch break by rather a lot. Decided on doing a new route and got totally lost. Just mapped the run on mapometer. 1hr 23 minutes.
Just did a 10 mile lunch time run. Okay so I over extended my lunch break by rather a lot. Decided on doing a new route and got totally lost. Just mapped the run on mapometer. 1hr 23 minutes.
lol, I just went running for my lunch 'hour' too. Eight miles today, felt really good.
Back at five past eleven at night? You're mad:cool:
I didn't say what time I started though! Or how long it took!
wow, well done!
More like OW as it goes. It was the run that was to decide marathon or not.
Have decided yes, but to go with the original plan of getting round and properly enjoying it this time, which in a way is good. No pressure. Don't think I am in a good enough state to run the full distance, but reckon I can get to 20 then walk/run the rest and there's no shame in having a walk.
More like OW as it goes. It was the run that was to decide marathon or not.
Have decided yes, but to go with the original plan of getting round and properly enjoying it this time, which in a way is good. No pressure. Don't think I am in a good enough state to run the full distance, but reckon I can get to 20 then walk/run the rest and there's no shame in having a walk.
That's brilliant news!
I'm trying to work out my marathon strategy. I really want to do it in under 5 hours.
what sort of time was your biggest run?
My strategy has changed and in a strange sort of way I am glad.
what sort of time was your biggest run?
too slow :-(
all on fetch
Not too slow, it was a training run and supposed to be that way. How far off 5 hours was it?
The only advice I have is take the 1st 10k slowly and not get carried away and running round people (easy for me to say that now, bitter experience), then you will be in your stride and things will have thinned out a bit. If you want to you can then pick up your pace.
3:30, is that right? Never done that looking at other users runs before.
that gives you 90 mins to do 8 miles, from what I remember you said you felt ok after, so add the crowd and your adrenalin and you will probably do 18 miles quicker (but be careful) on the day giving you a bit more leeway.
Don't do what I did though and do the 1st 10k in a pb time then have dramas and not enjoy yourself. Make your main target to enjoy the atmosphere, if you get a sub-5 then that's great, but don't make it the be all!
Just completing the marathon and raising money for BIRT is a challenge in itself and one that most people will never even attempt let alone complete.
BE PROUD of your running
BE PROUD of the sponsorship you've raised
...but most of all be proud of the effort you have put in on the journey!
LSRs range 11:08-12:13 minutemiles.
Half marathon pace was 10:38, and I wasn't 'racing' it.
Yes, agree - don't go off too fast, you'll catch all the others at mile 16 when they're knackered:D
Yes, agree - don't go off too fast, you'll catch all the others at mile 16 when they're knackered:D
You'll go past me then!
If you can run comfortable at that HM pace and not 'going for it' then IMO that should be your pace past 10k.
3:30, is that right? Never done that looking at other users runs before.
that gives you 90 mins to do 8 miles, from what I remember you said you felt ok after, so add the crowd and your adrenalin and you will probably do 18 miles quicker (but be careful) on the day giving you a bit more leeway.
Don't do what I did though and do the 1st 10k in a pb time then have dramas and not enjoy yourself. Make your main target to enjoy the atmosphere, if you get a sub-5 then that's great, but don't make it the be all!
Just completing the marathon and raising money for BIRT is a challenge in itself and one that most people will never even attempt let alone complete.
BE PROUD of your running
BE PROUD of the sponsorship you've raised
...but most of all be proud of the effort you have put in on the journey!
that's right, i've done a 20 too but that was slower.
thanks for the advice, i appreciate it :D
hoping this weekend's 20 goes well and gives me a bit more confidence.
that's right, i've done a 20 too but that was slower.
thanks for the advice, i appreciate it :D
hoping this weekend's 20 goes well and gives me a bit more confidence.
Run some of it at your HM pace. See how it feels.
Don't run all of it though at that pace, too close to the day.
Run some of it at your HM pace. See how it feels.
Don't run all of it though at that pace, too close to the day.
it's a plan...
Tim in Belgium
29-03-10, 08:22 PM
Just a quick one, and a bit strange, what underwear do you lot use when running?
I use my tightish type cotton boxers, but have an inkling they might not be the best!
I use nike pro compression shorts, not for the compression though, just because I am fat and my thighs rub otherwise!
If I forget them, I simply won't run it is so painful if I do it without. I would be walking like John Wayne for days!
Like these:
http://www.newitts.com/product/IT016579/Nike_Pro_Compression_Short_Skins.htm
Either I use cycling shorts or else I use shorts that have nix built in.
just starting to get back into the running myself over the last few weeks, so ill be following this from now on.
anyone see that eddie izzard thing last week, immpressive stuff.
just done my best ever 5 miler :-D
a teeny tiny bit quicker than 9 minute miling.
so pleased with myself.
it rained loads
and i got soaked to the skin :-D
anyone see that eddie izzard thing last week, immpressive stuff.
I thought he was a tw&t, but then I finally watched it and my hat goes off to him properly...what a dude.
It was him and his determination that sort of swayed my marathon decision.
just done my best ever 5 miler :-D
a teeny tiny bit quicker than 9 minute miling.
so pleased with myself.
it rained loads
and i got soaked to the skin :-D
Well done - Intentional? or just desperate to get in from the rain!
Like these:
http://www.newitts.com/product/IT016579/Nike_Pro_Compression_Short_Skins.htm
Similar myself.
just done my best ever 5 miler :-D
a teeny tiny bit quicker than 9 minute miling.
so pleased with myself.
it rained loads
and i got soaked to the skin :-D
Awesome Sarah. :cool:
I just came back from my 4 mile run. I'm not going to say what pace I ran :wink: But after my unforseen 10 mile run yesterday I was surprised at the pace I acheived. :)
Rest* day tomorrow.
*actually I'll be chucking furniture all round the house all on my own as the carpet fitters will be there fitting carpets in all the rooms.
I'm due to do an 11 miler later today, its ****ing down but I'm actually looking forward to it :-)
Flymo - Training using HR still going well?
Well done - Intentional? or just desperate to get in from the rain!
intentional :-D
Similar myself.
Awesome Sarah. :cool:
I just came back from my 4 mile run. I'm not going to say what pace I ran :wink:
thanks :-)
I'm due to do an 11 miler later today, its ****ing down but I'm actually looking forward to it :-)
rainy running rocks :D
barwel1992
30-03-10, 06:11 PM
just cracked 2.95km in 20min, way better than when i started also lost a fair bit of weight in the last 5/6 weeks from 110kg to 106.4kg still not really seeing the benefit :( as in reduced size apart from my legs are a bit more lean
Barwel - You probably won't notice it mate, not until someone who hasn't seen you for a couple of months says something like "have you lost weight?"...and they will!
I never noticed the weight loss as I was looking every day, everyone else noticed.
I'm still a fat git though!
Tim in Belgium
30-03-10, 08:18 PM
Did a 2hr LSR tonight (winding the length down as less than 2 weeks to marathon day), 2nd hour in the rain. As it was a bit chilly I put a string type runnin vest on underneath my long sleeve T. It was good from the point of view of helping me keep dryish and slightly warm, however the other T on top caused it to rub a little, jogger's nipple anyone?
did a 2hr lsr tonight (winding the length down as less than 2 weeks to marathon day), 2nd hour in the rain. As it was a bit chilly i put a string type runnin vest on underneath my long sleeve t. It was good from the point of view of helping me keep dryish and slightly warm, however the other t on top caused it to rub a little, jogger's nipple anyone?
ouch!
After the Tunbridge Wells Half the other week a bloke went past me with a white t-shirt on and 12" long red blood stains running from each of his nipples!
Tim in Belgium
30-03-10, 08:58 PM
Didn't quite get to the bleeding stage luckily but quite raw.
Ah thats better. I was soaking wet, cold and hungry by the time I got back. The wind was blowing a hoolie and the turbines were spinning like spinny things but I had a great run and feel bloody great for it.
Its always a massive psychological boost when you run against bad weather.
Flymo - Training using HR still going well?
Yes mate, it really works. I had a bit of a bad week or so were I didnt run for one reason or other. I'm back in the groove now and tonight was a great boost.
HR training takes the guess work out of selecting the correct race pace.
Just knocked out a 10k with some fastish 1 mile intervals. My leg still doesn't feel quite right though.
...and I have lost my love of running a bit.
watched all three episodes of the eddie izzard prog last night.
that man is a loon!!
There are more than one? Must check that out!
There are more than one? Must check that out!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/search/?q=eddie%20izzard
Knee is fooked. Don't think I'll be running for an unspecified duration again. :(
Knee is fooked. Don't think I'll be running for an unspecified duration again. :(
:(
Purplevamp
01-04-10, 06:57 PM
Right, this may sound like a stupid question but!
Do running socks wear out at all? I bought them 4 months ago and they stopped blisters from occurring during my runs, but i seem to be suffering with them again?
Got back from a 4.85 mile run with Hubby tonight and i have one right on the ball of my foot and its very uncomfortable.
Suggestion welcome please?
Are they the double skinned version? Invest in a pair, they're fantastic.
I'm in Falmouth at the moment. It's so hilly here, I swear that there isn't a flat street in the town. So 5.07 very hilly miles in 48.08 mins. Not just hills, it's blowing a howling gale out on the seafront and it was hard to make any progress at all. Bit disappointed about the pace, I thought I was doing a bit better, perhaps it was cos of the huge Cornish pasty for lunch that I could still feel sat in my tum:D
Tim in Belgium
02-04-10, 08:06 PM
Done no running for the last couple of dyas, but on the bright side I'm at the Nurburgring :) Steak, beer and schnitzel in prep for next week's marathon :D
Right, this may sound like a stupid question but!
Do running socks wear out at all? I bought them 4 months ago and they stopped blisters from occurring during my runs, but i seem to be suffering with them again?
Got back from a 4.85 mile run with Hubby tonight and i have one right on the ball of my foot and its very uncomfortable.
Suggestion welcome please?
Yep they do wear out and feel very different - Hilly Twin Skins as Ed suggested are very good.
I also have a blister on the ball of my foot and have never had one previously?
I'm in Falmouth at the moment. It's so hilly here, I swear that there isn't a flat street in the town. So 5.07 very hilly miles in 48.08 mins. Not just hills, it's blowing a howling gale out on the seafront and it was hard to make any progress at all. Bit disappointed about the pace, I thought I was doing a bit better, perhaps it was cos of the huge Cornish pasty for lunch that I could still feel sat in my tum:D
Ed - Do you ever get good weather when you go to Falmouth?
Tim - What marathon are you doing?
Sarah - Have you started your taper yet, or is your last run tomorrow? Be careful and relax. Oh and stock up on echinacea, to keep the taper madness induced colds at bay!
Sarah - Have you started your taper yet, or is your last run tomorrow? Be careful and relax. Oh and stock up on echinacea, to keep the taper madness induced colds at bay!
20 tomorrow, then it's taper time :-D
i'm totally paranoid about getting ill and/or injured now!!!
20 tomorrow, then it's taper time :-D
i'm totally paranoid about getting ill and/or injured now!!!
I'm doing 20 tomorrow, I'll race yer ;-)
Get munching on that pasta, potatoes and rice tonight
I'm doing 20 tomorrow, I'll race yer ;-)
Get munching on that pasta, potatoes and rice tonight
lol, where will you be running?
got spaghetti for dinner :-D
lol, where will you be running?
got spaghetti for dinner :-D
Just my local route in training, along the coast from Wallasey to West Kirby and back. 8 weeks or so to Edinburgh now.
I'm going to limp out a 20 tomorrow too, might try a slow hilly-ish one.
Not enough carbs for me tonight cupboard is empty!
Tim in Belgium
03-04-10, 05:33 PM
Doing the Rotterdam marathon, nice and flat ;)
Purplevamp
03-04-10, 07:39 PM
Are they the double skinned version? Invest in a pair, they're fantastic.
I'm in Falmouth at the moment. It's so hilly here, I swear that there isn't a flat street in the town. So 5.07 very hilly miles in 48.08 mins. Not just hills, it's blowing a howling gale out on the seafront and it was hard to make any progress at all. Bit disappointed about the pace, I thought I was doing a bit better, perhaps it was cos of the huge Cornish pasty for lunch that I could still feel sat in my tum:D
Hiya , yes they are Hilly Twin Skins.
I live in Stoke on Trent and its hilly here too, you cant run anywhere without a hill or 4 involved lol.
I ran 8.5 miles today and it was mostly hill and my feet are wrecked.
Purplevamp
03-04-10, 07:40 PM
Rah for the Cornish pasty too, you cant beat a Philp's pasty from the Hayle bakery. One of those and it finishes you off for the day lol.
Hiya , yes they are Hilly Twin Skins.
I live in Stoke on Trent and its hilly here too, you cant run anywhere without a hill or 4 involved lol.
I ran 8.5 miles today and it was mostly hill and my feet are wrecked.
I used Hilly Twin Skins, they work but have no real padding. I tried the 1000 Mile Socks (also twin layer) and they felt much better to me.
I might venture out tomorrow if the wind and rain have stopped:D
I used to run up Swanpool Hill here, I haven't done it for a while, so will have a crack at it. It's very steep:rolleyes:
PV - this pasty was from the Oggy Oggy Pasty Shop, in Arwenack Street (Falmouth). Yum yum *burp*
right, thats me back from my 20 miler this morning, I am totally shagged. Strong wind in my face for the first 9 miles, finished in 3h01m.
Yeah! :-)
my 20er turned out to be a 16.5er :-(
right knee went a bit weird
right, thats me back from my 20 miler this morning, I am totally shagged. Strong wind in my face for the first 9 miles, finished in 3h01m.
Yeah! :-)
Back too although I did my hilly 20, shortly followed by a 2 hours swim with the sprogs, I need to sleep now.
my 20er turned out to be a 16.5er :-(
right knee went a bit weird
Very sensible mate! You have done enough mileage not to worry about it.
Rest it and commence the taper madness!
Kebab and chips seems to have helped with my exercise related lethargy.
Flymo are you on target for your marathon? That's a sub-4 right there so I am guessing you are going for quicker?
Sarah - how do you feel now?
Sarah - how do you feel now?
Better thanks. Doesn't hurt any more but knee still doesn't feel quite right.
I did a hilly 7 today, I attacked Swanpool Hill but it kicked my backside. Oh how unfit I am. I ran up the hill, then cos I'd had the pain of the uphill I turned round and had the fun of the downhill with spectacular views over the sea. Then along the seafront and back through the town, the entire last mile is uphill. Back in 1.03. I used to be able to do that loop in about 53 mins. Is it age? Lack of training? Or what?
ED - lack of training! (oh and maybe a few fags)
Sarah rest it for a few days, it won't hurt your marathon. Plenty of RICE treatment and try some gentle stretches.
How's the recovery Flymo?
ED - lack of training! (oh and maybe a few fags)
Sorry Kev. I just can't quit:(
Sarah rest it for a few days, it won't hurt your marathon. Plenty of RICE treatment and try some gentle stretches.
slightly concerned that knee ouch may be this:
http://www.time-to-run.com/injuries/thebig5/itb.htm
How's the recovery Flymo?
I'm doing ok now, nice relaxing birthday with no running :-)
My knee was a little achy last night and this morning but feeling good for my run tomorrow already. I've missed a few runs over the past few weeks so I was a little down on my mileage, hance the aches.
I was buggered by the end of 20 miles but considering the dip in training and the strong winds for the first 10 miles I was pretty chuffed to get home inside my target pace. I have another crack at 20 miles in about 3 or 4 weeks so will be looking to finish at same pace but with another 6 miles in reserve for the final push. To be honest though I made it to 20 miles with enough time to crank out 10 minute miles and still be inside 4 hours so have to be happy with that.
All in all its looking good so far.
Sub-4 is in the bag mate...i'm reckoning on a quicker time in your head!
Don't try and self-diagnose Sarah, if you are like me you will always read the worst one possible.
Rest and see how you feel.
Sorry Kev. I just can't quit:(
Ed - just thought I hadn't nagged for a while!
slightly concerned that knee ouch may be this:
http://www.time-to-run.com/injuries/thebig5/itb.htm
This is what I suffer from constantly. A massive course of physio sorted me out for a while. I got orthotics to wear in my trainers but they give me horrendous blisters so run without them.
Sarah, do you get clicking/cracking in your knee as well?
Oh and I agree with Kev. Don't self diagnose. Go see the Doc's and let them tell you. I thought I had cartlige problems when I started getting problems with my knee. In fact I was convinced I did. So much for self diagnosis.
This is what I suffer from constantly. A massive course of physio sorted me out for a while. I got orthotics to wear in my trainers but they give me horrendous blisters so run without them.
Sarah, do you get clicking/cracking in your knee as well?
I know that I nearly overpronate with my right foot so maybe I was over pronating which caused a prob. Knee clicks sometimes but never been a prob before.
Was weird. I was runnning, went up a big hill, along a flattish bit at the top, slowed to have a drink and go down the other side of the hill (it was really slippery so needed to go slowly) and it really hurt. Had to hobble down the hill. Knee hurt to even walk on. Was fine if i kept my knee locked straight but hurt when I put any weight on it when it was bent.
Rested yesterday, going for a little run this evening.
It doesn't hurt now at all but at times I can feel that it's not quite right, if you know what I mean.
If tonight's run is a disaster I'll phone doc/physio in the morning.
It does all seem a bit familiar. But then I am not a doctor or a physio so what do I know. I have though learnt (the hard way) that when something hurts, stop doing what it is that makes it hurt. Best of luck with your run this evening.
Foamroller - really hurts but helps massage the pains away!
3.44 gentle miles and no pain.
woohoo.
Tim in Belgium
06-04-10, 07:28 PM
Good to hear :thumbsup:
I'm amazed, 48 hours after doing 20 miles and being basically knackered I popped out for my scheduled 8 mile run tonight and was bouncing with energy. Amazing how one can recover so quickly.
Pretty please, flymo - share the secret;)
I had a look for my running gear/sports bag this morning. Can't find it. I think that may have been just as well.
I'm amazed, 48 hours after doing 20 miles and being basically knackered I popped out for my scheduled 8 mile run tonight and was bouncing with energy. Amazing how one can recover so quickly.
Bouncing - I vaguely remember being that fit. It's a great feeling though eh?
Bouncing - I vaguely remember being that fit. It's a great feeling though eh?
I wouldnt say I was particularly fit, judging by the speed of some of the runners I am passed by on a regular basis :-)
Pretty please, flymo - share the secret;)
ah, the secret my friends is............ flapjack. that is all.
Fitness and speed are not related, at least if they are I was never and am not now fit!
It's a great feeling to bounce along!
Fitness and speed are not related, at least if they are I was never and am not now fit!
It's a great feeling to bounce along!
Yeah, thats true.
On a serious note, if there is any secret then for me it would be;
1. Stay within your limits and push the boundaries gently, don't do too much too soon.
2. Always always stretch properly at the end of a run, I always have problems if I dont. If you dont know how then ask/learn.
3. Fuel properly before and after a long run. Build the necessary energy a few hours before with carbohydrate rich foods, hydrate fully with water or squash in the days leading up to a run, and eat protein rich food immeadiately after a long run (Tuna works well for me)
and of course Flapjack ;-)
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