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aren't you classed as veteran at 35 when it comes to running events? (old man ;):p)
i decided to go for my first run in a looooong time the other day. bugger me i didn't realise how 'un-running' fit i am! i play a lot of sport (mainly hockey, badminton and squash), but they are mainly short stint movment sports and my cardiovascular capacity is shocking!! i have decided i need to get out and do some more, but am really lacking motivation and time to do it :(
LMAO yes you are :lol:
sorry Si ;)
MEH!
chris8886
09-01-09, 11:20 PM
LMAO yes you are :lol:
sorry Si ;)
i presume you aren't including me there? because i am still a loooong way from 35 :D
i presume you aren't including me there? because i am still a loooong way from 35 :D
LMAO, of course, you are not included :-D
chris8886
09-01-09, 11:24 PM
LMAO, of course, you are not included :-D
good good, thanks. back to the motivational running thread business! ;)
Just did my long run today for this weeks marathon training. 12 miles, seemed quite a step up from 10 miles but I managed to keep running and maintain pace for the full distance.
Slowly does it, nearly at the half way 13.5 distance.
My pace is at 9m30s per mile but I'm concentrating on making the distance at the moment. Would ideally like to acheive a 4h00 marathon time.
Tsk. I found the thread languishing half way down page 2. Not good. So I'll post any old crap to bump it up top.
Just done 3. Back in 21 or so, wasn't really counting. Short, cos I ran out of daylight and my long route has no street lights in part and I don't want to fall down a pot hole or tread in dog tish. I did 8 last week for a long run, I'm going to try 10 tomorrow. Pressing on - true... but I have a goal!! Very excited about this, I want to try for the Shakespeare half marathon in Stratford-upon-Avon on 24 April:D and although I say time no longer drives me, the awful truth has dawned on me. It does. I've discovered that I'm still every bit as competitive as I used to be. I can't help racing myself, criticising my own poor performance, and beating myself up over it.
Confession made. Please don't let it put you off - but would anyone like to join me at Stratford? It would be so damn cool to enter a www.sv650.org (http://www.sv650.org) team:cool:
Ed
Didn't run yesterday or today, but am going to have a little one tomorrow. Stratford Half, not sure how far that is from me tbh, but may be worth a look.
Good luck in your 10km run today Si* :-D
*I won't mention the word veteran ;)
Just about to leave for my 10k race this morning.
You can wish this old verteran luck as he hobbles his way round. :) :lol:
Well that was harder than I thought it was going to be. The whole of the 2nd 5k was up hill. :eek:
I did it in a rather slow 48 minutes. Enjoyed it though.
NEXT!
Well done dude!!! Really chuffed for you. 6.2 in 48 with half of it uphill, and on knackered knees, is no mean feat.
And you want more....
Me - did my 10 miler at 8am. 1h20m.
Well done dude!!! Really chuffed for you. 6.2 in 48 with half of it uphill, and on knackered knees, is no mean feat.
And you want more....
Me - did my 10 miler at 8am. 1h20m.
Well a bigger well done to you. :) I am hoping to complete a long distance run next weekend.
I have decided the bug has bitten. I have just booked the next one in Winchester on 22nd Feb.
I have decided the bug has bitten. I have just booked the next one in Winchester on 22nd Feb.
:D:D:D
I've made a group on fetch for us .orgers.
I've made a group on fetch for us .orgers.
I'm new on Fetch, still working out everything it does. Isn't it very different from RW!!!!
I'm new on Fetch, still working out everything it does. Isn't it very different from RW!!!!
Fetch defo takes a while to find your way around. I think it feels smaller and friendlier than RW. I only really use RW for looking for races.
Well that was harder than I thought it was going to be. The whole of the 2nd 5k was up hill. :eek:
I did it in a rather slow 48 minutes. Enjoyed it though.
NEXT!
Well done :cheers:!! I bet you feel great now you have done it :-D
I've made a group on fetch for us .orgers.
I have not managed to navigate the site completely. Any chance of a linky?
http://www.fetcheveryone.com/groups.php
Look for '.orgers'
We have 2 members!
Ed
http://www.fetcheveryone.com/groups.php
Look for '.orgers'
We have 2 members!
Ed
cheers Ed
Me - did my 10 miler at 8am. 1h20m.
8am!! On a Sunday!! Did you enjoy it? I do prefer running in the mornings myself :-D.
8am!! On a Sunday!! Did you enjoy it? I do prefer running in the mornings myself :-D.
Yep, 8am, very few people around, could have run down the middle of the road:D
Enjoy it? I loved every second of it. I felt I could've run further, but decided not to cos it's the first time I've done 10 miles since October 2007 and I didn't want to risk injury. I love it when your legs feel like they're about to drop off, lungs absolutely bursting, heart pounding, utterly exhausted, and you feel like you're about to float away.
Who needs drugs when you can run:cheers:
Who needs drugs when you can run:cheers:
I need drugs because I run :(
I need drugs because I run :(
Oi!! I didn't mean those ones:smt019:p
due to the trials bike incident, i am out of action for a bit
pulled muscle in groin, and a big bruise on thigh
chris8886
12-01-09, 12:39 AM
i've been out running the last 2 days in a row! :o can't quite believe myself (even got up half an hour earlier at 8:30 this morning to go before work). both times did a 2.5 mile loop, did yesterday in about 19m 30s and today in 19m 4s. i really slowed my pace compared the run i did last week and managed the 2.5 loop instead of the poor 1.3. not greatly pleased with my time, but very happy with my recovery. got my heart rate down quickly afterwards and any aches i had, had gone after a couple of hours.
i'll probably go out again tommorrow as i can't play football in the evening. i really want to get my cardiovascular capacity up. should i keep the same sorta distance and try and build up the pace. or keep the same pace and try and go further?
due to the trials bike incident, i am out of action for a bit
pulled muscle in groin, and a big bruise on thigh
:( gws
i'll probably go out again tommorrow as i can't play football in the evening. i really want to get my cardiovascular capacity up. should i keep the same sorta distance and try and build up the pace. or keep the same pace and try and go further?
Chris, don't run before you can walk!!!! Don't change anything until you are sure you can do it. And then make changes only gradually. Better to increase the distance a bit than the pace. Pace will follow.
Well that was harder than I thought it was going to be. The whole of the 2nd 5k was up hill. :eek:
I did it in a rather slow 48 minutes. Enjoyed it though.
NEXT!
Nice one mate - good time too!
http://www.fetcheveryone.com/groups.php
Look for '.orgers'
We have 2 members!
Ed
Now 3!!!
I haven't been out for 3 days now (sounds like a confessional) my back is bad which means tablets, which also means tiredness and generally no motivation..........adds up to being really moody and eating crap.
I haven't been out for 3 days now (sounds like a confessional) my back is bad which means tablets, which also means tiredness and generally no motivation..........adds up to being really moody and eating crap.
I know what you mean. Have been there on more occasions that I would have preferred over the years. So I can sympathise entirely.
..........adds up to being really moody and eating crap.
I bet your wife is wishing you could go out for a run. Mrs Ed always knows when I haven't run. She doesn't like the time running takes - but prefers a happy household:D
I just got back from my lunchtime 4 mile run. Did it in 25:30. Happy with that. :)
I just got back from my lunchtime 4 mile run. Did it in 25:30. Happy with that. :)
Cor that's fast. 6min23s/mile. Excellent:D
Are you suitably knackered?
WLT run at lunchtimes but no shower here:(
Cor that's fast. 6min23s/mile. Excellent:D
Are you suitably knackered?
WLT run at lunchtimes but no shower here:(
I should be shouldn't I. Especially after the 10k yesterday. But I feel okay at the moment. I think I will be aching a bit on my rest day tomorrow though.
I would prefer to run in the evenings Ed but can't trust myself to keep the distance down. At least running lunch time I only have a specified period of time to run in. Keeps me in check.
Argh! Week 2 out of my program and I've got a chuffin blister. What now?
Argh! Week 2 out of my program and I've got a chuffin blister. What now?
Firstly get Compeed blister plasters. They will allow you to carry on running. Also go get some twin skin socks. And lasty start applying surgical spirit to your feet to toughen up the skin.
Good man. I will invest on the morrow.
PS Compeed plasters..? Supermarket or pharmacy?
Good man. I will invest on the morrow.
http://www.google.co.uk/products?hl=en&q=hilly+twin+socks&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title
I had exactly the same issues as you did. All sorted now though. :wink:
Good man. I will invest on the morrow.
PS Compeed plasters..? Supermarket or pharmacy?
I have seen them in both :)
I just got back from my lunchtime 4 mile run. Did it in 25:30. Happy with that. :)
Awesome time Si, I bet you haven't stopped smiling since you got back in from your run :-D. Sounds like you have found a way to continue running allowing yourself a rest day afterwards.
I have seen them in both :)
Nice one. Cheers Foxy
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/pa/2007/08/pa60213_175x175.jpg
Errr..... no! Not that one.
Well I forced myself out tonight and have just got back from a 12.5 miler:
2 mile WU - 8 x 400m Fast with 400m Recovery - 5 mins recovery - 8 x 400m Fast with 400m Rec and finally 2 miles CD..................
Am totally fubared now though.....nearly puked just into the second set of 400's.
Scoobs - those nasty Adidas cotton things that they sell in 3 packs in JJB are no good - they rub like hell. You need two layer running socks, they really are a sound investment. Compeed - not cheap but they do the business nicely.
Kev - what an impressive run!! Sincere congratulations:D That is a huge achievement, really excellent:cheers: In fact I'm going to write down the splits and bring it with in my pocket, as I run on my own and if I read this while out then you'll give me inspiration:D
Kev - what an impressive run!! Sincere congratulations:D That is a huge achievement, really excellent:cheers:
I'll take your word for that. I actually have no idea what he said. :lol: But well done Kev. :)
I get lost by all the different stuff you can enter on the Fetch site. I just enter the bits I understand. :)
(Rest day for me today. :( I don't like rest days. I want to RUN.)
It wasn't fast overall though and certainly nowhere near 6:23 mm....
Well I forced myself out tonight and have just got back from a 12.5 miler:
2 mile WU - 8 x 400m Fast with 400m Recovery - 5 mins recovery - 8 x 400m Fast with 400m Rec and finally 2 miles CD..................
Am totally fubared now though.....nearly puked just into the second set of 400's.
Sounds hard work but impressive :-D. Especially running 12.5 miles after forcing yourself to go out :). Do you do this training on a running route or track?
i decided to go to the gym today, i was quite happy
i managed 1 hour again
3-4 mins @ 7kmph @ 15% incline HR 120
3-4 mins @ 9kmph @ 15% incline HR 145
had a bit of pain from my leg, but not as much as i was expecting.
Sounds hard work but impressive :-D. Especially running 12.5 miles after forcing yourself to go out :). Do you do this training on a running route or track?
Just round the 2 mile block, which just so happens to be the same 2 mile block I started out on and couldn't get round without stopping about 10 times......
had a bit of pain from my leg, but not as much as i was expecting.
Hovis - Just take it caerphilly!
Hovis - Just take it caerphilly!
:confused:
Just round the 2 mile block, which just so happens to be the same 2 mile block I started out on and couldn't get round without stopping about 10 times......
I can't do that. I find covering the same ground boring and demoralising. Especially if I have to cover the same ground over and over.
I can't do that. I find covering the same ground boring and demoralising. Especially if I have to cover the same ground over and over.
The only reason I did that is because it was close to home last night and with my dodgy back and the new tablets I wasn't sure how I would get on and being close gave me a back out plan, which I was tempted to use several times........
Hovis - sorry it was a very poor and thinly veiled joke.......carefully. I know it's rubbish.
Hovis - sorry it was a very poor and thinly veiled joke.......carefully. I know it's rubbish.
ah, i see:mrgreen:
The only reason I did that is because it was close to home last night and with my dodgy back and the new tablets I wasn't sure how I would get on and being close gave me a back out plan, which I was tempted to use several times........
I see your point. They do the same here at work. If anyone is carrying an injury which might mean they can not finish the run, they do circuits round the local park so its only a short hobble back in.
Like you say though it becomes very difficult because you automatically know the tougher bits and anticipate where it will make you work harder!!
There is no 2 mile block here, one way goes out into the middle of nowhere (down towards where Daryl B lives:D) and the other goes into town. Hobson's choice.
i really want to get my cardiovascular capacity up.
Look up (Hight Intensity) Interval Training. Tough but effective. Doesn't have to be done running.
DarrenSV650S
13-01-09, 10:12 PM
After a week off because I had the cold I went out tonight for the usual 1.5 miles. Just for a laugh I timed myself : 14.35 which is about 6mph according to my calculations.
My dodgy knee's are stiff now though. Do you think I'd get the same sort of fitness from cycling or swimming?
My dodgy knee's are stiff now though. Do you think I'd get the same sort of fitness from cycling or swimming?
As a bad knee sufferer I can tell you that cycling only takes out the impact you get from running. Depending on what is wrong with your knees you may find cycling no better on them at all. You also will not get as much physical benefit from it mile for mile. Swimming on the other hand. So long as you change your stroke, will give you lots of reward regarding fitness. It works out far more of your body and gives you a good cardio work out at the same time.
You could try taking the Chondroitin/Glucosamine supplements. They come as tablets or liquid and are often used by people with aching joints such as Arthritis.
i think i need to sort my technic(?) out, as i seem to be taking small steps
Gutted. All my times for distances have been wrong. :(
I found out the 4 mile route at work is actually only 3.5 miles.
My home 4, 6 and 8 mile routes were all short by half a mile.
So now we know. I am not as fast as I thought I was.
Tonight I do my first REAL 8 mile run. Will see what time I get. :roll:
I confess that I couldn't crawl out of bed this morning so no run. It's a pleasure delayed rather than a pleasure denied, I'll do the 6 tonight:cool:
i think i need to sort my technic(?) out, as i seem to be taking small steps
and bigger strides would improve speed......... would'nt it?
and bigger strides would improve speed......... would'nt it?
Not if you make them slower. Suggest you think positively about extending your stride. It is damn difficult because your walking and unning style will be unique to you and you'll have been doing it for years. What you might find more beneficial is to relax. I get the impression that you are too stiff. If you relax - just as if you were on your bike - you will get less aches and will have a more productive run. So drop your shoulders, don't clench your fists, and swing your hips.
Not if you make them slower. Suggest you think positively about extending your stride. It is damn difficult because your walking and unning style will be unique to you and you'll have been doing it for years. What you might find more beneficial is to relax. I get the impression that you are too stiff. If you relax - just as if you were on your bike - you will get less aches and will have a more productive run. So drop your shoulders, don't clench your fists, and swing your hips.
oh, ok thanks,
my aims are now to improve speed
but more importantly improve on distance, the most i have run is 5k
the problem is, every tim i go on the treadmill i put it on the highest incline (15%) then alternate between 7-9kmph, for about 1 hour, this is improving fitness and im burning more calories
but its not realy helping with my running.
I don't understand treadmills, last having used one in 1994:rolleyes:
Why do you use the incline setting? You're getting exhausted running up a permanent hill. And I can't figger out what the speed means, I calculate mins per mile. *Works it out* av 8km/h = 5mph, or 12 mins/mile. That is not the fastest TBH but the hill will help explain that. I don't understand treadies but I daresay you are losing a lot of forward momentum in inertia and friction, and I also suspect that you have adaped your running style to a machine - you can't go slower because you'll fall off the back, you can't go faster cos there's no place to go.
The answer is obvious. Get outside and run. You can control the route and the pace, and if there's a hill you don't like then don't do it. I feel that you are being conditioned by a machine.
Why do you use the incline setting? You're getting exhausted running up a permanent hill. . because it gets my heart rate up easier and i burn more calories
And I can't figger out what the speed means, I calculate mins per mile. *Works it out* av 8km/h = 5mph, or 12 mins/mile.. i can change the treadmill to MPH, but i have got used to KMs
That is not the fastest .i know:(
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The answer is obvious. Get outside and run.. i will, as soon as its a bit warmer (was 1 degree this mornig
I feel that you are being conditioned by a machine. your probaly right
anywho............. after a bit of advice from foxyin leather today i did this
5 mins @ 7.5kmph
5 mins @ 8kmph
5 mins @ 8.5kmph
5 mins @ 9kmph
5 mins @ 9.5kmph
5 mins @ 10kmph
all at 1% incline
which was a total of 4.5 km in 30 mins
i managed it ok, i dont think i could have gone much faster, for another 5 mins
i burnt 350 cals (which is about ½ of what i normaly burn at 15% incline)
got my heart rate up to 153
tomorrow i think in going to go for 8km (5miles)
Nope Hovis. Tomorrow you're going to run outside!! Make that first step...
Also - why are you heart rate training? I tried this but found that limiting my heart rate to 160 simply held me back, that was in about 2000 and I haven't had heart failure yet. Horses for courses I spose but I am far from convinced that it works.
anywho............. after a bit of advice from foxyin leather today i did this
5 mins @ 7.5kmph
5 mins @ 8kmph
5 mins @ 8.5kmph
5 mins @ 9kmph
5 mins @ 9.5kmph
5 mins @ 10kmph
all at 1% incline
which was a total of 4.5 km in 30 mins
i managed it ok, i dont think i could have gone much faster, for another 5 mins
i burnt 350 cals (which is about ½ of what i normaly burn at 15% incline)
got my heart rate up to 153
tomorrow i think in going to go for 8km (5miles)
Excellent Hovis!! How do you feel? How are your injuries?
If you are going for 8km, why don't you try doing the same as you have just done twice that will be 9km in total?
Excellent Hovis!! How do you feel? How are your injuries?
If you are going for 8km, why don't you try doing the same as you have just done twice that will be 9km in total?
i felt ok, although i dont think i could have done it for anothe 30mins with out stopping,
i also felt as if i was watching the clock all the time, the last 5 mins dragged a bit, my leg was ok though
my aim now, i think is to get up to 10km, maybe enter some 10k runs
then maybe october cardiff marathan
i felt ok, although i dont think i could have done it for anothe 30mins with out stopping,
i also felt as if i was watching the clock all the time, the last 5 mins dragged a bit, my leg was ok though
my aim now, i think is to get up to 10km, maybe enter some 10k runs
then maybe october cardiff marathan
You have set yourself some good goals and when you are ready you can get out there and pound the roads. As you know road running is a lot different to the running machine.
I find I can run faster on the road than I can on the running machine. i.e. my times for a 5km on the running machine are slower than when I run on the road but I feel like I am running faster on the running machine if that makes sense.
So as Ed says you will find a difference on the road, experience different terrains and set your own pace and maybe like me you will find you are faster road running than on the treadmill.
how do you know how far you have run outdoors?
google maps is ok, but i plan to do a few cycle tracks, and cut through parks, which it wont let you do?
i think i need to sort my technic(?) out, as i seem to be taking small steps
Small steps are good mate - you should land just under your hips.....just move your feet faster.
Nope Hovis. Tomorrow you're going to run outside!! Make that first step...
Also - why are you heart rate training? I tried this but found that limiting my heart rate to 160 simply held me back, that was in about 2000 and I haven't had heart failure yet. Horses for courses I spose but I am far from convinced that it works.
Agreed - get your @rse outside mate - you'll enjoy it more especially in the cold.
ED - HR training is supposed to really improve performance, got to be honest though I have tried it using the garmin, but can't get on with it so I use pace bands instead.
how do you know how far you have run outdoors?
google maps is ok, but i plan to do a few cycle tracks, and cut through parks, which it wont let you do?
I use a Garmin GPS Watch - Forerunner 305 and a Forerunner 405 - top purchase.
I use a Garmin GPS Watch - Forerunner 305 and a Forerunner 405 - top purchase.
im thinkig thats a bit OTT for me
how do you know how far you have run outdoors?
google maps is ok, but i plan to do a few cycle tracks, and cut through parks, which it wont let you do?
Why don't you try this site Hovis? It is great for mapping your distances and routes. It will allow you do plan through the cycle tracks and parks etc...
www.mapmyrun.co.uk (http://www.mapmyrun.co.uk)
www.mapmyrun.co.uk (http://www.mapmyrun.co.uk)
cool
i just planned 2, 3 miles and 5 miles
now i think 5 miles on the tredmill will be ok, but the 5 mile route out side looks realy far :confused:
Well my 8 mile run programmed for yesterday did not happen. Well it did but ended up doing 10.45 miles instead :)
It was a slow pace 1h 26. Gave me an 8 mile a minute overall pace. But I deliberately took it slow. I did not know if my knees would allow me to go that distance. Happy to report they did. :D My left knee started to ache quite a bit between mile 8 and 9 and my old pelvis injury complained a bit going up the last hill. But overall I got home feeling great.
This morning I woke expecting to be in a world of pain with my knees but surprisingly they are only giving me the dull background ache they always do. Rest day today. 4 mile run tomorrow lunch time. If all is well I will do the half marathon distance on Sat. It looks like my goal of doing the Reading Half is getting closer. \\:D/ And it looks like I will be able to do a sub 2 hour one too. Which will please me even more as when I started back running at Christmas this was a very optimistic and unrealistic goal.
Dead chuffed with progress so far. :cheers:
DarrenSV650S
15-01-09, 08:07 AM
You could try taking the Chondroitin/Glucosamine supplements. They come as tablets or liquid and are often used by people with aching joints such as Arthritis.
Do they actually work?
Well my 8 mile run programmed for yesterday did not happen. Well it did but ended up doing 10.45 miles instead :)
It was a slow pace 1h 26. Gave me an 8 mile a minute overall pace. But I deliberately took it slow. I did not know if my knees would allow me to go that distance. Happy to report they did. :D My left knee started to ache quite a bit between mile 8 and 9 and my old pelvis injury complained a bit going up the last hill. But overall I got home feeling great.
This morning I woke expecting to be in a world of pain with my knees but surprisingly they are only giving me the dull background ache they always do. Rest day today. 4 mile run tomorrow lunch time. If all is well I will do the half marathon distance on Sat. It looks like my goal of doing the Reading Half is getting closer. \\:D/ And it looks like I will be able to do a sub 2 hour one too. Which will please me even more as when I started back running at Christmas this was a very optimistic and unrealistic goal.
Dead chuffed with progress so far. :cheers:
Awesome Si, sounds like you are going from strength to strength*. Roll on the Reading Half :-D.
I haven't run all week :rolleyes:. Although I am mapping a few runs around Swindon so I can go at lunch times and plan on doing a 10 mile run on Saturday morning :p.
*not bad for a veteran ;)
I normally run a 3 mile during my lunch break on a Wednesday but got tied up in a meeting so had to skip. So, sitting there last night after I'd put the kids to bed looking out at the wild windy rainy night thinking sod it.
Then I got a spark of enthusiasm and thought, no, get off your ar$e and get it done so I went out. Jeez it was windy, I ran as hard as I could do comfortably which wasnt too bad on the outward leg (I live and run on the coast) but when I turned for home the wind was like a solid wall :-)
Anyway, made it home in 25mins44s, I'm sure I could have run quicker without the wind in my face all the way home but I'm no sprinter. There is no chance I could make a marathon distance at the pace I was doing and certainly not at your pace Ape.
My target is 9m10s for the full 26 miles to get my in around 4 hours but I really dont want to risk not finishing by pushing too hard in the early miles.
Do they actually work?
I take them and think that they do work.
I use glucosamine 1200 hci or something like that. www.zipvit.com (http://www.zipvit.com)
Well my 8 mile run programmed for yesterday did not happen. Well it did but ended up doing 10.45 miles instead :)
It was a slow pace 1h 26. Gave me an 8 mile a minute overall pace. But I deliberately took it slow. I did not know if my knees would allow me to go that distance. Happy to report they did. :D My left knee started to ache quite a bit between mile 8 and 9 and my old pelvis injury complained a bit going up the last hill. But overall I got home feeling great.
This morning I woke expecting to be in a world of pain with my knees but surprisingly they are only giving me the dull background ache they always do. Rest day today. 4 mile run tomorrow lunch time. If all is well I will do the half marathon distance on Sat. It looks like my goal of doing the Reading Half is getting closer. \\:D/ And it looks like I will be able to do a sub 2 hour one too. Which will please me even more as when I started back running at Christmas this was a very optimistic and unrealistic goal.
Dead chuffed with progress so far. :cheers:
I'm doing the Les Witton Memorial Dartford 10 mile on Sunday and if I get 1hr 25mins I'll be well pleased mate.
You know your body better than any of us mate, but take care of your knees, I know it is really hard when things feel good and you feel you could run forever, but just remember the pain and being laid up.
Build up slowly. You know this already because of your training, but listening to yourself isn't as easy.
Do they actually work?
I've only recently started using them but from a little research on the net there seems to be good feedback that they do help with improving the condition of joints.
All depends on what the problem is really but its worth a try for a month or so.
I normally run a 3 mile during my lunch break on a Wednesday but got tied up in a meeting so had to skip. So, sitting there last night after I'd put the kids to bed looking out at the wild windy rainy night thinking sod it.
Then I got a spark of enthusiasm and thought, no, get off your ar$e and get it done so I went out. Jeez it was windy, I ran as hard as I could do comfortably which wasnt too bad on the outward leg (I live and run on the coast) but when I turned for home the wind was like a solid wall :-)
Anyway, made it home in 25mins44s, I'm sure I could have run quicker without the wind in my face all the way home but I'm no sprinter. There is no chance I could make a marathon distance at the pace I was doing and certainly not at your pace Ape.
My target is 9m10s for the full 26 miles to get my in around 4 hours but I really dont want to risk not finishing by pushing too hard in the early miles.
Very sensible Flymo - don't do what I did and get carried away with the whole atmosphere, don't change your goal and don't change anything that you have done in training on the day.
I got carried away and changed everything, so the slightest problem meant I lost it mentally/physically and blew apart my sub-4 marathon and ended up with a pony 4:34 and hating the day.
I've only recently started using them but from a little research on the net there seems to be good feedback that they do help with improving the condition of joints.
All depends on what the problem is really but its worth a try for a month or so.
Apparently they take approx 3 months to get working.
DarrenSV650S
15-01-09, 11:01 AM
I take them and think that they do work.
I use glucosamine 1200 hci or something like that. www.zipvit.com (http://www.zipvit.com)
I'll give them a try
I finally managed to go for a run with Dartford Road Runners AC Tuesday, expecting to turn up for a 6 mile plod.
It turned out it was their monthly 2.8 mile handicap/timetrial........just what I needed - NOT!
I ended up doing it and although my legs didn't really have it in them due to the intervals the day before, I manged to do it in just over 20 mins and finished 6th.
Not sure that the position is relevant though as it was a handicap race, but the club were friendly and the facilities first class. They train 3 times a week, so I am considering joining them and turning up 2 or 3 times a month.
Glucosamine & Chrondroitin suppliments - I think that if you are happy to spend the money they they are worth at least trying. As has been said you need to give them time for any improvement to show. If after 3 months you don't feel they are benefiting you then maybe they aren't. If they are then great, you know to continue using them. (I take a G&C but at 1/2 to 1/3 dose they recommend [cost] - but then I'm relatively young and without any confirmed injury - I look at it as a top up.)
Hovis - How are you measuing calorie burn? Are you going on the numbers the machine says or are you using an independant heart rate monitor? My understanding is that the stats reported by the machine are normally rarther innaccurate, an HR monitor might be better (it will at least be more consistent in terms of relative no. of calories burned between different machines etc).
Hovis - Why are you obsessed about the calorie figure? Have you considered the easier solution? Eat less calories?
Hovis - IMHO you've got three angles you can take when exercising - loose fat, gain muscle, improve cardio vascular. It sounds like you're focussing on the first - fat loss (which is perfectly respectable) . If so you really should think about looking at what you eat. Also consider, if you aren't already, doing some weights. It's surprisingly how effective weight training is for loosing fat.
Hovis - A bit more about what you're trying to achieve, if you're prepared to share the info, might help us help you.
Hovis - To echo what others have said - get off the treadmill and into the great outdoors.
I finally managed to go for a run with Dartford Road Runners AC Tuesday, expecting to turn up for a 6 mile plod.
It turned out it was their monthly 2.8 mile handicap/timetrial........just what I needed - NOT!
I ended up doing it and although my legs didn't really have it in them due to the intervals the day before, I manged to do it in just over 20 mins and finished 6th.
Not sure that the position is relevant though as it was a handicap race, but the club were friendly and the facilities first class. They train 3 times a week, so I am considering joining them and turning up 2 or 3 times a month.
Glutton for punishment methinks ;). First with the Cambridge Harriers?? and now the Dartford Road Runners. Sounds like you enjoyed it and a great time esp after your 12.5 mile run yesterday :-D
2mths 2009 Training - Week 3 Report
The 3.5 mile route trotted round again. Trying hard to just keep things easy (only this distance and without pushing) for the rest of January (another 2 runs) to avoid trying to do too much too soon. I was about a minute quicker this time (34:15) but that could be less delays crossing roads. That said I did push harder for very brief spurts once or twice. I want to avoid though as the idea at this stage is to acclimatise my body. I was aware of my shins again within a minute of running and for ~5 minutes after that. It seemed that once I got warm things were better (or everything else in my legs starting hurting too). Today though I can't tell that I ran yesterday :-)
You know your body better than any of us mate, but take care of your knees, I know it is really hard when things feel good and you feel you could run forever, but just remember the pain and being laid up.
Build up slowly. You know this already because of your training, but listening to yourself isn't as easy.[/quote]
I 'struggle' with my knees every single day of the week. As in the ache every day. Before my knees took me off the running road I was running every single day. If it hurt too much I just took prescribed pain killers and carried on. It got to the point I was actually hobbling rather than walking. This is when I went to the docs and ended up on the physio and such. This time round I am running every other day instead and if after my rest day I think my knees have not recovered enough I will miss out on the programmed run which means I will end up with 3 days rest. I have learnt my lesson. :wink: Well I haven't, as I am quite sure if I were to actually attend a physio session, they would not be happy to know I have completed 45 miles this month so far. :lol: But I am listening to what my knees are telling me. Sort of.
Glutton for punishment methinks . First with the Cambridge Harriers?? and now the Dartford Road Runners. Sounds like you enjoyed it and a great time esp after your 12.5 mile run yesterday
I think so too. I thought I was being a martyr to the cause. :lol:
I 'struggle' with my knees every single day of the week. As in the ache every day. Before my knees took me off the running road I was running every single day. If it hurt too much I just took prescribed pain killers and carried on. It got to the point I was actually hobbling rather than walking. This is when I went to the docs and ended up on the physio and such. This time round I am running every other day instead and if after my rest day I think my knees have not recovered enough I will miss out on the programmed run which means I will end up with 3 days rest. I have learnt my lesson. :wink: Well I haven't, as I am quite sure if I were to actually attend a physio session, they would not be happy to know I have completed 45 miles this month so far. :lol: But I am listening to what my knees are telling me.
Fair enough mate - I wasn't trying to preach to you.
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