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Ed
09-10-08, 11:58 AM
Had a ballot reject for London next April:(

I did think about a charity place but I haven't the inclination to raise £1K - £1,5K. It's a huge amount, and I can't think how I'd do it. It's enough to do the marathon training, without worrying about raising a huge sum as well.

Back to the drawing board...

krhall
09-10-08, 01:44 PM
Bigape- That sounds a bit of extreme physio to me mate......

I too got the regection letter as did the wife and everyone else I know how applied for a ballot place.

I'm not even considering a charity place this year, did that last year and found it too stressful and put too much pressure on me. To the point where little niggles were ignored due to everyone knowing about the run and having money on me.

Plus I raised £2900+ in the end and didn't even get a thank-you.

I'm thinking about either Paris or just not doing one until summer next year and going cross-county this autumn.

Just knocked out a 48 min 10k at lunchtime and haven't really been running much recently, so am happy with that. My legs aren't so happy.

Heed
09-10-08, 02:14 PM
I managed to come in the top 5% in the Great North Run this year. Hoping for a sub 90 minute run next year.

hovis
09-10-08, 02:16 PM
well done

:p

krhall
09-10-08, 03:05 PM
Top 5% blimey that is superb. I'd be happy with a sub 1:45 half........best is 1:46 and I almsot killed my chubby little self doing so.

Well done mate.

Stig
09-10-08, 06:49 PM
A full cast for 6 weeks :shock:, that doesn't sound good. Would you find out on Monday if that was to happen? Would you also have to be re-assessed for different trainers during/after your physio treatment?

Bigape- That sounds a bit of extreme physio to me mate......



Yeah that does sound extreme. The bloke that told me this was serving in Germany at the time and it was a German hospital that he went to. As far as I know, that is not on the agenda for me. But it is food for thought. As part of the physio they will look at preventive measures to ensure it does not happen again. A part of that is monitoring my running and stuff and probably have to have insteps fitted to make sure I run straight.

Heed
09-10-08, 08:23 PM
Top 5% blimey that is superb. I'd be happy with a sub 1:45 half........best is 1:46 and I almost killed my chubby little self doing so.

Well done mate.

Sub 1.45 is good going TBH. I was a fat lad (16 stone) 3 years ago and started running to shift some weight. Then I started to enjoy it. I'm certainly no athlete and it's more dogged determination than fitness but it's good to take part in such a big race.

Thanks for the nice comments people.

krhall
12-10-08, 07:44 PM
Got some new kit yesterday as Sweatshop are having a bit of a sale. My best buy was a Nike Convertible jacket £30 from £60, went for a run in it this morning minus the arms and it was superb!!!

Went off road and into the woods near me and absolutely loved it so I think my short-term running plans are to take part in the Kent Fitness League which is all off-road.

I also have the British Military Fitness 10k in a few weeks, which involves running through deep mud and rivers I believe.

Get to sweatshop for a bargain!

Stig
13-10-08, 11:41 AM
First physio appointment done. Boy it's going to be a long old process. :sad:

Bluepete
13-10-08, 05:56 PM
Seven miles for me today, mostly on gravel or dirt tracks. Took me just under an hour, but loved every minute!
Only just starting getting back into it all again. Knee is playing up a bit, but all the docs say more exercise is better for it than anything else.

krhall
13-10-08, 07:29 PM
How did it go ape man?

Foxy
13-10-08, 07:47 PM
First physio appointment done. Boy it's going to be a long old process. :sad:

What did your physio say?

Foxy
13-10-08, 07:51 PM
I managed to come in the top 5% in the Great North Run this year. Hoping for a sub 90 minute run next year.

Top 5% is great. I bet you felt awesome when you finished :D

I have only done it once and trained for months for it ready to do a sub 1.30 but got an injury 6 weeks before. However after all that training I still did it and hobbled round in 2 hours. Felt great for just doing it :p

Stig
13-10-08, 09:17 PM
As I said, it's going to be a long process. I have a series of exercises I need to do twice a day. The idea is to retrain the muscles around my knees to pull the knee caps back in line. Once that is done they will then look into what caused the issue in the first place. At the moment it could be a few different reasons or a collection of more than one.

It could be my flat feet or the more likely suspect, my previously broken pelvis.

6 weeks of physio and then the investigations start. Unfortunately the right knee is following the same path as the left on.

krhall
14-10-08, 09:24 AM
Well mate it's a start, just try not to be tempted to do more than you are told to.

Good luck mate.

krhall
15-10-08, 01:43 PM
I ran to work yesterday (10.5 miles) then 4.5 miles lunchtime and just cracked out another 3 miles. Finally I feel like I have some enthusiasm back for running.

Has anyone tried POSE or CHI running? If so what did you think?

thedonal
15-10-08, 06:13 PM
I've just started breaking myself back into exercise after a long hiatus. I haven't been properly training since Feb after a training injury and varying states of demotivation- I'm getting a belly and hitting almost 14 stone, where I should be about 12 ish. (one for the weight loss thread!)

Chi Running looks interesting, but I'm sometimes a little skeptical about these modern programs that combine ancient wisdom with modern science (especially when they're selling you books about it!). I'm sure many fitness instructors(or websites) worth their salt could help you with good posture and technique while running in order to help avoid injuries.

Having said that, as a kung fu student, I understand a little of the concept of chi and focus (and I'm sure there are a few other martial artists on the forum who do too). Chi is a definition of energy that follows your focus, spirit and intent. This comes from regular training, relaxation and breathing. The idea is that we can increase our general level of chi (or general energy) as well as training to focus it into specific parts of the art.

So, if you focus on certain areas of your running, you are both helping your body and also helping your mind in staying focussed. That's part of what I use running for. I tend to focus mainly on breathing, regular pace and will power, with varying focus on physical technique- where I land on my feet, how I lift my legs etc.

I remember reading an article a few years ago about some studies made on athletes where they focussed on a particular area of the body while training- quads while running, for example and the scientists measured greater electrical activity in those muscles than when not focussing- it seems western science is starting to come to terms that the mind and body are 2 parts of a whole and constantly feed back on each other, whereas many eastern 'mystical' practices have been teaching this for millenia.

krhall
15-10-08, 07:40 PM
I've read loads of posts from people on fetcheveryone.com and they seem to be very positive, I'm just a bit lazy in terms of trying new things but am seriously considering it.

Tim in Belgium
19-10-08, 05:57 PM
Well after a bit of a running hiatus, living in a hotel and going on the drink three nights in a row I decided it was time for a run. I wasn't quite sure where I'd go, but ran to the North Sea through the dunes, along the beach to Zandvoort then back by another way, probably a bit far for a first run, 2 1/2 hours of slow running, but I enjoyed it. Just about shifted the hangover, but now I'm knackered!

Also is beach running good or bad for you? Most of it was on the harder damp sand but it's still tougher going. The rest was on hard cycle paths, so no doubt my knees took a bit of a pounding. Will get some new trainers as I reckon mine have had it.

The run along the beach also made me want to take up kite surfing, looks pretty cool if a little tricky, some of the guys were getting serious air.

thedonal
19-10-08, 06:17 PM
Good lord! 2.5 hours after a break. I can barely manage 20 minutes at the moment!!

I reckon that sand is probably better for you than the road/treadmill. Not only is it softer (even when wet) than concrete/tarmac and therefore lessens the strain on your joints, but the extra effort you have to put in must train your muscles better.

Stig
19-10-08, 06:19 PM
There's nothing wrong with beach running but it is a whole lot more difficult than running on the road. Your muscles will be given a far harder workout as masses of your energy and effort is absorbed in the sand rather than forward motion.

Tim in Belgium
19-10-08, 06:30 PM
Good lord! 2.5 hours after a break. I can barely manage 20 minutes at the moment!!

I reckon that sand is probably better for you than the road/treadmill. Not only is it softer (even when wet) than concrete/tarmac and therefore lessens the strain on your joints, but the extra effort you have to put in must train your muscles better.

But I was done in by the end ! Trying to start my legs moving after stopping to cross the road was almost impossible. And I was running very slowly, plus Holland is pretty flat ;)

krhall
27-10-08, 01:44 PM
British Military 10k

Did it Saturday with my wife - One word - SUPERB.

This is the best event I have ever done and really appealed to the child inside. Although we did it at a slower pace as I wanted to do it with my wife I loved every minute of it. She doesn't get time to train as much as me.

A saturday morning on a 4X4 course up to you waist in mud at places, freezing cold, soaking wet and no showers absolutely fantastic. It really put the fun back into running and that has been missing for quite some time now.

The marshalling was fantastic and supportive and the event was full of people having fun, whilst in pain. I have never seen so many smiling people during a 10k. There were people of all abilities and there was a real buzz and camaraderie about the race.

I will be doing it again in March as I loved it so much. It has also prompted me to find a pair of decent shoes as my road shoes weren't up to the job.

Then I'm going to run XC/Trail through winter.

If you have lost your love of running go do this and you will regain it within the first 1k guaranteed!!!

10k of sheer pain and challenges.........absolutely brilliant.

G
27-10-08, 01:47 PM
That sounds lots of fun.....is it like a 10k assualt course or something?

krhall
27-10-08, 02:51 PM
Not really an assault course so much as there isn't too much climbing over things, it is just a super hilly 4x4 course with mud, water hazards, fallen trees etc.

http://sportivephoto.thirdlight.com/index.tlx

type 154 in the top.

Dangerous Dave
27-10-08, 03:05 PM
A saturday morning on a 4X4 course up to you waist in mud at places, freezing cold, soaking wet and no showers absolutely fantastic. It really put the fun back into running and that has been missing for quite some time now.
A proper run, well done and glad you enjoyed it. I have one on friday as a fitness test...:(

krhall
27-10-08, 04:36 PM
DD - I don't for a moment imagine it is anything like you forces guys get up too, but it was nice to get off-road and have a challenge. IMO everyone should do it.

Tim in Belgium
27-10-08, 04:51 PM
If anyone fancies an offroad run & assault course type race try Tough Guys, great fun, I've done it in both summer and winter, you can even enter as a team.

krhall
27-10-08, 04:56 PM
Someone else was talking about that here last week, not sure I have the stamina for that to tell you the truth! Plus I couldn't get on their website this morning to sign up!

Dangerous Dave
27-10-08, 05:01 PM
DD - I don't for a moment imagine it is anything like you forces guys get up too, but it was nice to get off-road and have a challenge. IMO everyone should do it.
What you did was an amazing challenge, you should be proud of yourself! That is a tough old thing to do mate, well done.

I got a 8k run, followed by the assault course and then a 1k swim.... all this depending if I pass my Psych test on Thursday.

krhall
27-10-08, 08:29 PM
What you did was an amazing challenge, you should be proud of yourself! That is a tough old thing to do mate, well done.

I got a 8k run, followed by the assault course and then a 1k swim.... all this depending if I pass my Psych test on Thursday.

Can I have a go?

I did 4.6 miles earlier in the park, but it was boring compared to Saturday. I am looking at Hellrunner 12 miles and Grim 8 mile runs, similar to Sats run.

I loved it.

Dangerous Dave
27-10-08, 08:32 PM
Can I have a go?
Feel free to do the run for me, 8k with a 40kg Bergen and a rifle in your hands!

Foxy
27-10-08, 08:32 PM
British Military 10k

Did it Saturday with my wife - One word - SUPERB.


10k of sheer pain and challenges.........absolutely brilliant.

Great news. Sounds like you both had great fun and thoroughly enjoyed yourselves in this arduous event :D

krhall
27-10-08, 08:35 PM
Feel free to do the run for me, 8k with a 40kg Bergen and a rifle in your hands!

DD - I would love to have a crack at that mate, not too sure I'd be up to it, but would love a go.

Bluepete
11-11-08, 04:40 PM
Just done 8 miles in the pouring rain and driving wind. Loved every second until I got in and realised I had chafed my right nipple to the point of bleeding.

Now not a happy bunny.

Tim in Belgium
11-11-08, 07:03 PM
Just done 8 miles in the pouring rain and driving wind. Loved every second until I got in and realised I had chafed my right nipple to the point of bleeding.

Now not a happy bunny.

Painful, but sounds like a good run, knee must be well on the mend.

I've just done about 35 mins but got lost in the dark so had to turn round and retrace my steps. Worst thing was all the way back I was having to keep a turtle head from poking out, it was a relief to get back home, but balancing speed against hanging on was tricky...

krhall
12-11-08, 09:30 PM
Painful, but sounds like a good run, knee must be well on the mend.

I've just done about 35 mins but got lost in the dark so had to turn round and retrace my steps. Worst thing was all the way back I was having to keep a turtle head from poking out, it was a relief to get back home, but balancing speed against hanging on was tricky...

LMFAO - there is nothing worse than needing a crap on a run......totally ruins your stride.

I've been getting back into it last few weeks and am now back up to about 30 miles a week.

Going to do my first 5k on Friday lunch hopefully, so that will be my second PB in a week. Although sadly just because I have never run the distances before competitively.

Ed
12-11-08, 10:42 PM
30 mpw!!! I haven't managed that for a while:( Getting back into it now the merger is over though:D Did 6 on Sunday, uphill too:D, same again tomorrow morning if I can get up early enough, else in the evening.

Stig
13-11-08, 12:22 PM
Update.

After having been to physio for a number of weeks. I have canned it. It was causing me as much pain doing the physio as it was when I was running.

My knees were no better in anyway shape or form. I decided to get fit other ways.

I am now on a very strict diet, I do sit ups, press ups and small weights every night and three times a week I go swimming in the mornings.

The weightless exercise my knees are getting (breast stroke, swim like a frog) seem to be doing far more beneficial things than any of the physio has been doing. My knees no longer ache all the time, they are cracking and creaking nowhere near as much.

I am fitter, eating healthy (well some would say not enough), the excess weight is falling off me and my muscle definition is all coming back.

Personally, I think for the second time NHS physiotherapy have failed me. Just as they did for my back.

Doing my own thing I feel I will back to running sometime early in the New Year. Watch this space.

krhall
13-11-08, 12:50 PM
Yeah I feel the same way about my bad back.....unfortunately I am back on the tablets as running has stopped helping me as much as it was. Which also means the side affects are returning.

Had to run into work again this morning, have been doing it every tuesday for the last week, but had to do it again this morning as the CBR has no front brake and I found out last night putting your feet down (BMX style) does work on a 600 SS bike!!!

Ed - Do you still go on Fetch?

I did my first XC race on sunday as part of the Kent Fitness League, about 5.2 miles. managed it in 38:10, which I was well chuffed with. Until I spoke to a 76 year old bloke about the 5k tomorrow and he did it in 41 mins...............I'm only 33.

sarah
13-11-08, 02:02 PM
:smt039

krhall
13-11-08, 02:03 PM
Hey Sarah - how's it going?

hovis
13-11-08, 02:28 PM
:smt039

:smt039
where have you been hiding?

sarah
13-11-08, 09:19 PM
i've got a new job where i actually do work :-)

been pretty slack with the running (and swimming) for a while but trying to get back into it. aiming for at least 3 runs and a swim each week. distances aren't great yet but i'm getting there. signed up for a 10k at the beginning of december so that's my next target.

krhall
14-11-08, 08:21 PM
Did my first 5k today, so obviously I got a PB (even if it had taken me 2 days it would've been a PB), but I came in at 22 mins dead. I'm well chuffed with that.......was expecting 25 mins or so.

Superb....Am cream crackered now.

sarah
14-11-08, 08:37 PM
Did my first 5k today, so obviously I got a PB (even if it had taken me 2 days it would've been a PB), but I came in at 22 mins dead. I'm well chuffed with that.......was expecting 25 mins or so.

Superb....Am cream crackered now.

:thumright:

sarah
15-11-08, 10:58 AM
Got on a bit lost on this morning's run. Was supposed to do 4 miles but accidentally did 6. V muddy :-D

krhall
15-11-08, 03:42 PM
How do you feel?

sarah
15-11-08, 04:00 PM
How do you feel?

Fine, it was a v slow run due to the vast quanities of mud, stopping to say hello to horses and trying to work out how to get home (got a bit lost).

Ed
15-11-08, 09:48 PM
Did my first 5k today, so obviously I got a PB (even if it had taken me 2 days it would've been a PB), but I came in at 22 mins dead. I'm well chuffed with that.......was expecting 25 mins or so.

Superb....Am cream crackered now.

Well done Kev!!!!

I'm just back from 5 miles. Yes, at this time of the evening. I am slowly getting back into it after a few months off. There was hardly anyone around... roads very quiet...

Stig
19-12-08, 10:53 PM
I am a glutton for pain. I did another 5 mile run this evening. Pain is already starting, tomorrow I will struggle to walk. Hey ho.

Better news though. I had my appointment with the Orthotics department last week. They checked out my walking, jogging and running. They have decided my feet are the problem. I am having insoles built to go in my shoes and trainers. Apparently it will straighten my stride and help to bring my knees back in line.

The insoles should be ready some time at the end of January. A month after having them I should be in some sort of shape to start training again. I so hope so.

wyrdness
20-12-08, 12:16 PM
Now this is an amazing running story. (http://www.elitefeet.com/the-legend-of-cliff-young-the-61-year-old-farmer-that-won-the-worlds-toughest-race) Shuffling old farmer in wellies (http://forums.sv650.org/b%20%20%20%20%20http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Young_%28athlete%29) beat top athletes in ultra-marathon.

sarah
20-12-08, 01:38 PM
I am a glutton for pain. I did another 5 mile run this evening. Pain is already starting, tomorrow I will struggle to walk. Hey ho.

Better news though. I had my appointment with the Orthotics department last week. They checked out my walking, jogging and running. They have decided my feet are the problem. I am having insoles built to go in my shoes and trainers. Apparently it will straighten my stride and help to bring my knees back in line.

The insoles should be ready some time at the end of January. A month after having them I should be in some sort of shape to start training again. I so hope so.

sounds promising. i hope they do the trick for you.

Now this is an amazing running story. (http://www.elitefeet.com/the-legend-of-cliff-young-the-61-year-old-farmer-that-won-the-worlds-toughest-race) Shuffling old farmer in wellies (http://forums.sv650.org/b%20%20%20%20%20http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Young_%28athlete%29) beat top athletes in ultra-marathon.

wow, what an amazing story. inspiring.

Stig
22-12-08, 09:40 AM
I went for another 5 miler last night. Guess what. NO PAIN. Not even this morning. Woohoo. Now I know I am not healed, I know if I carry on running before the problem has been rectified, I will end up suffering again, but I can't stop myself.

I can't wait for tonight, going for another run. :D

Stig
22-12-08, 10:13 PM
Did another run tonight. My feet have turned soft. Damn blisters. :( Anyone got the iodine. :roll:)

DarrenSV650S
22-12-08, 10:16 PM
I've just started tonight. Got some addidas clima stuff and some good trainers in JJB today. Only manages 1.5 miles and I'm shattered. I've got a sore muscle in my leg and in my arm for some reason:confused: and my throat hurts

Stig
22-12-08, 10:22 PM
I've just started tonight. Got some addidas clima stuff and some good trainers in JJB today. Only manages 1.5 miles and I'm shattered. I've got a sore muscle in my leg and in my arm for some reason:confused: and my throat hurts

Well take it easy to start. Most common mistake new runners make is thinking they can do more than they can. 1.5 half miles is perfectly acceptable for a new runner. If you wake up tomorrow and your stiff and can hardly walk, take a day off. Your muscles need time to develop and more than anything else, they need time to recover. Don't think because you only managed 1.5 miles, you need to build up your distance quickly. You don't. Slow but sure is the name of the game. Build up your pace and then build up your distance. Do to much too soon and you will do yourself an injury and end up doing nothing at all.

DarrenSV650S
22-12-08, 10:31 PM
Well take it easy to start. Most common mistake new runners make is thinking they can do more than they can. 1.5 half miles is perfectly acceptable for a new runner. If you wake up tomorrow and your stiff and can hardly walk, take a day off. Your muscles need time to develop and more than anything else, they need time to recover. Don't think because you only managed 1.5 miles, you need to build up your distance quickly. You don't. Slow but sure is the name of the game. Build up your pace and then build up your distance. Do to much too soon and you will do yourself an injury and end up doing nothing at all.
Cheers for the info. The 1.5 miles was actually in two stints with a short walking rest in the middle. Next time I'll have to stretch a bit better

Stig
22-12-08, 10:39 PM
Cheers for the info. The 1.5 miles was actually in two stints with a short walking rest in the middle. Next time I'll have to stretch a bit better

After getting back into running after a 4 year layoff, I had to start pretty much from scratch. I was doing the same thing. I think I walked more than I ran. I just kept doing it until I was running all the way round. The important thing is persistence. Going out and doing it even when you cant be arsed. This is how it becomes a habit more than a chore. Well done for starting. :cool:

sarah
23-12-08, 10:45 AM
When I started running I would run for a minute and then walk for a minute (for about a mile and a half). Then, gradually I walked less and ran more and then increased the distance.

krhall
23-12-08, 01:14 PM
Hello Running Thread peeps - it's been a while.

Darren, 1.5 miles with only one stop is great going. When I first started (almost 2 years ago) I had a 2 mile block to run, but had to stop more than 10 times.

The idea is to try and slow down a bit and go further before stopping each time, then within a month you'll be running the whole 1.5 miles without even thinking of stopping. Once you have cracked that goal you'll be ready for your next one.

Never increase your mileage by more than 10% each week.

Good luck and take recovery time seriously. A quite useful site is www.fetcheveryone.com it is very beginner friendly and you'll pick up some good tips. It also allows you to keep a log of your running, which is nice to look back on.

BA - nice to see you are banging out some miles again.

Sarah - what's the next race for you then?

sarah
23-12-08, 01:21 PM
Sarah - what's the next race for you then?

Last one was a 10k at the beginning of december. Not sure about the next one. Don't think I'm brave enough to do one of the hilly, muddy 10k races yet. I really like the idea but not sure if I can deal with being soooooooo slow and finishing ages after everyone else.

My aim for 2009 is to finish a 10k in under an hour (I still haven't managed it) and then maybe try some fun looking hilly and muddy races. I do like mud.

What are your running plans kev?

G
23-12-08, 01:34 PM
I'm running 5km in 30 minutes 4 times a week at the moment on my training programme, but recently I have started to get hip pain AFTER the run. It does not happen during the run but the next day or sometimes immediately afterwards it feels like my left hip is trying to dislocate itself. What can I do to stop this? is it to do with running technique or what?

Going to keep running though, loving it at the moment, and lost 10kg since starting 3 months ago.

Ed
23-12-08, 02:52 PM
I'm running 5km in 30 minutes 4 times a week at the moment on my training programme, but recently I have started to get hip pain AFTER the run. It does not happen during the run but the next day or sometimes immediately afterwards it feels like my left hip is trying to dislocate itself. What can I do to stop this? is it to do with running technique or what?

Going to keep running though, loving it at the moment, and lost 10kg since starting 3 months ago.


Tis your hip flexor complaining. Ice ice ice ice ice it dude:D

Are you doing gentle stretching and doing a warm up and down?

And what shoes are you wearing? Cross trainers are no good, they aren't designed for running. And if you're wearing your old Green Flash, put them in the bin immediately!

You might try running on grass or on a woodland trail to vary the pounding.

Also if it persists - consult your doc, most modern GPs are runner friendly now so won't yell at you. You don't want to risk long term injury.

DanAbnormal
23-12-08, 02:55 PM
Okay, I've recently started running again after a back injury and now.....I CAN'T RUN!! :(

After about 2 miles my shins are so tense, almost like they are in spasm, they feel like concrete and it's painful just to walk until I have cooled down and stretched for about 15 mins. What the hell is going on??

Argh!

Stig
23-12-08, 03:32 PM
Okay, I've recently started running again after a back injury and now.....I CAN'T RUN!! :(

After about 2 miles my shins are so tense, almost like they are in spasm, they feel like concrete and it's painful just to walk until I have cooled down and stretched for about 15 mins. What the hell is going on??

Argh!

Shin splints.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/health_and_fitness/4284288.stm

DanAbnormal
23-12-08, 03:46 PM
Shin splints.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/health_and_fitness/4284288.stm

I see. Thing is I was running 4 or 5 miles with no probs then had 3 weeks off. Went stright back into it and had this problem. Darn it!

Stig
23-12-08, 03:57 PM
I see. Thing is I was running 4 or 5 miles with no probs then had 3 weeks off. Went stright back into it and had this problem. Darn it!

It can be caused as simply as not warming up properly before you start. Make sure you are doing your preparation properly. If you do start to get shin splints run with a looser stride. It should help. Trouble with shin splints is it makes you tense up automatically which compounds the issue. Between each stride give your trailing foot a little shake to relieve the muscles.

DanAbnormal
23-12-08, 04:02 PM
It can be caused as simply as not warming up properly before you start. Make sure you are doing your preparation properly. If you do start to get shin splints run with a looser stride. It should help. Trouble with shin splints is it makes you tense up automatically which compounds the issue. Between each stride give your trailing foot a little shake to relieve the muscles.

Hmm. I wasn't really warming up just going straight into a sort of slow jog (which I considered to be warming up). Doh!

Stig
23-12-08, 04:07 PM
Hmm. I wasn't really warming up just going straight into a sort of slow jog (which I considered to be warming up). Doh!

No that is loading the muscles straight away. You need to be stretching them before you start. Also, in colder weather wear long trousers, this will prevent your muscles getting cold and trying to retract.

sarah
23-12-08, 04:08 PM
Hmm. I wasn't really warming up just going straight into a sort of slow jog (which I considered to be warming up). Doh!

what other sort of warming up is there??

i sympathise with your shin splints. they are evil and nasty and hurty. i got them when i was doing loads of taekwondo.

sarah
23-12-08, 04:09 PM
No that is loading the muscles straight away. You need to be stretching them before you start. Also, in colder weather wear long trousers, this will prevent your muscles getting cold and trying to retract.

i thought that you were supposed to warm them up before stretching them.

Ed
23-12-08, 07:04 PM
It would be so cool if we could find a summer race somewhere south /south-east midlands-ish and we could enter a .org team:cool:

sarah
23-12-08, 07:07 PM
It would be so cool if we could find a summer race somewhere south /south-east midlands-ish and we could enter a .org team:cool:

that would be ace :-D

i'll have a look on runner's world now

Stig
23-12-08, 08:06 PM
I'll be TEC. :)

Stig
23-12-08, 08:07 PM
I ran again this evening. 25 miles in 6 days and now have blisters on my blisters. I think that's me done for the week. :lol:

krhall
23-12-08, 08:46 PM
I went to the local track for the first time ever tonight and did some mile intervals, ran 41 laps in the end.....bloody garmin told me it was KM intervals, so I was expecting 5 ish miles ended up doing 10ish.

I never stretch before a run, just slow jog for 1 or 2 miles. Always stretch after though.

Sarah - My plans for 2009 running wise are, nothing as yet. Although I want to get my 10k time down to around 45 mins from 47:52.

Ed - cracking idea, I'd be up for that.

krhall
23-12-08, 08:58 PM
Oh and I'm going to do the British Military 10k again in March, that was a great run.

Foxy
23-12-08, 09:17 PM
It would be so cool if we could find a summer race somewhere south /south-east midlands-ish and we could enter a .org team:cool:

What a great idea I count me in if we do find one :D

Foxy
23-12-08, 09:19 PM
I ran again this evening. 25 miles in 6 days and now have blisters on my blisters. I think that's me done for the week. :lol:

You have done well Si, now get some iodine on those blisters ... ouch. I can remember being on exercise in Trinidad and the medic putting Iodine on a friends blisters. Her screams still ring in my ears...

krhall
23-12-08, 09:25 PM
http://www.toughguy.co.uk/

What about this?

BA - Blisters (especially popped ones) are the worst running injury.

Foxy
23-12-08, 09:29 PM
http://www.toughguy.co.uk/

What about this?

BA - Blisters (especially popped ones) are the worst running injury.

Awesome, I will def be up for it

chris8886
23-12-08, 09:55 PM
I'm running 5km in 30 minutes 4 times a week at the moment on my training programme, but recently I have started to get hip pain AFTER the run. It does not happen during the run but the next day or sometimes immediately afterwards it feels like my left hip is trying to dislocate itself. What can I do to stop this? is it to do with running technique or what?

Going to keep running though, loving it at the moment, and lost 10kg since starting 3 months ago.

if you have proper running shoe's how old are they? it may be that you've knackered the cushioning in them. most trainers only have an approx. life of 5-600 miles.

krhall
24-12-08, 06:48 AM
if you have proper running shoe's how old are they? it may be that you've knackered the cushioning in them. most trainers only have an approx. life of 5-600 miles.

That point is spot on except this is affected also by weight and how hard you run. I rarely get more than 250-300 miles before the support has gone.

Stig
24-12-08, 08:19 AM
BA - Blisters (especially popped ones) are the worst running injury.

I checked them out this morning. It's not pretty. I should not have gone for the run last night. Oh well. A few days rest with iodene treatment.

Stig
24-12-08, 08:32 AM
http://www.toughguy.co.uk/

What about this?



Yes.

Stig
24-12-08, 08:35 AM
I am assuming you are not talking about the January event though. That's far too soon for me, I wont be fit enough.

krhall
24-12-08, 08:51 AM
BA - what shoes do you run in?

Do you use running socks?

I used to suffer from blisters on the ends of my toes, but changed my shoe size and bought a few pairs of dirrerent socks to run in and now I rarely get blisters.

New Leaf
24-12-08, 08:57 AM
i hate joggers - they all smell. :(

sarah
24-12-08, 09:00 AM
i hate joggers - they all smell. :(

that's fine, we're all runners :-D

Stig
24-12-08, 09:14 AM
BA - what shoes do you run in?

Do you use running socks?

I used to suffer from blisters on the ends of my toes, but changed my shoe size and bought a few pairs of dirrerent socks to run in and now I rarely get blisters.

I have Nike air but can't tell you the actual model right now. They are road running specific trainers.

Running socks. No. Not specific but something I will look into. The blister I have is on the arch of the sole. No hot spots anywhere else.

sarah
24-12-08, 09:32 AM
Do you use running socks?

I used to suffer from blisters on the ends of my toes, but changed my shoe size and bought a few pairs of dirrerent socks to run in and now I rarely get blisters.



Running socks. No. Not specific but something I will look into. The blister I have is on the arch of the sole. No hot spots anywhere else.

I knew it! I said you needed new socks yesterday.

Stig
24-12-08, 09:43 AM
I knew it! I said you needed new socks yesterday.

You did. Thinking about it. Yesterday I did wear a pair of socks that I had not run in before. But the previous day were socks familiar to me that have not previously caused any issues.

Anyway.

opinions please on these.

http://www.specialistsocks.co.uk/Running/Athletic_Socks/c3/p1212/Falke_RU4_Attack_Running_Sock/product_info.html

Stig
24-12-08, 09:45 AM
Would you believe I just went to the pharmacist to ask for something to help the blisters heal quickly. Such as iodine. They said all the had were plasters. WTF?

krhall
24-12-08, 02:28 PM
If you are getting blisters a pair of Hilly Twin Skins might be best for you, as they stop any rubbing and also have (I think) anti-bac in them.

I also use falke socks, think mine are RU3 ones, really good if you have weak ankles, very supportive do take a while to get used to though. Love them and if you look on www.sweatshop.co.uk (http://www.sweatshop.co.uk), they normally have deals 2 for 3 or similar.

Stig
24-12-08, 05:23 PM
Just bought two pairs on line. So thanks for that. If they work I'll get some more.

DarrenSV650S
24-12-08, 09:28 PM
My legs felt better tonight so went out again. Did the same 1.5 mile route but I had to stop 3 times to catch my breath.:( It's really misty just now and I think it was affecting my breathing because my throat and chest were getting really sore. My legs were fine but I just couldn't breathe.
When I set off my ankles twinged for the first few steps but were then fine. Is there any stretches for them I should be doing?

I did these before and after the run: Clicky (http://www.best-running-tips.com/running-stretches.html)

Stig
24-12-08, 10:14 PM
My legs felt better tonight so went out again. Did the same 1.5 mile route but I had to stop 3 times to catch my breath.:( It's really misty just now and I think it was affecting my breathing because my throat and chest were getting really sore. My legs were fine but I just couldn't breathe.
When I set off my ankles twinged for the first few steps but were then fine. Is there any stretches for them I should be doing?

I did these before and after the run: Clicky (http://www.best-running-tips.com/running-stretches.html)

That site is very subjective and personal to the person that wrote it. I do not personally do a warm up myself. But then I and my muscles are already used to regular running. You and your muscles are not. The easiest way to not get muscle cramps or pains is to stretch them first and after. I suggest you keep doing it. At least for a while. Congratulations on continuing, many would just think it hurts to much and not bother. Just keep going and you will find your breathing will get better. I expect your throat hurts because it is not used to the deep breathing your are having to do. If you ever have any concerns that you are doing damage to yourself, go see your doc. They are quite clued up to runners these days and can give you advice and reassurance.

Stick with it, it'll take a couple of weeks or so to get used to it. Take as many walking rests as you feel you need, but don't forget to push yourself each time to gain progress.

DarrenSV650S
26-12-08, 06:27 PM
Why do I need to spit so much when I run:confused:

Pushed myself tonight past the point where I thought I needed a walking rest. OUCH it hurts! lol. My chest gets so sore. Got a chesty cough now.

Stig
26-12-08, 07:20 PM
Why do I need to spit so much when I run:confused:

:lol: your not a proper runner unless you spit lots. :lol:

Pushed myself tonight past the point where I thought I needed a walking rest. OUCH it hurts! lol. My chest gets so sore. Got a chesty cough now.

Are you dressing adequately for the weather you are running in? You need make sure you are warm enough. I know you will get hot during your run, but you have to get there first. I always wear two thin long sleeved tops and a waterproof jacket. I also wear a hat until I am proper warm and also wear gloves.