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I dont eat much before a run but drink plenty. I am hungry after a run as well. I normally have some sort of fish. Yesterday I hankered after chocolate so ate half a pack of jaffa cakes. :lol:
My knees today are not good at all. I will rest up now until Monday. :(
I will rest up now until Monday. :(
Glad to hear it!
When I was training for the marathon, on my long runs I used to take a couple of slices of malt loaf and eat them about 6 miles into the run......always got some funny looks.
Glad to hear it!
When I was training for the marathon, on my long runs I used to take a couple of slices of malt loaf and eat them about 6 miles into the run......always got some funny looks.
Goodness, I cannot eat anything for at least an hour before a run, let alone eat anything during lol and definitely don't feel hungry afterwards.
I do eat though ;)
DarrenSV650S
02-01-09, 04:09 PM
Glad to hear it!
When I was training for the marathon, on my long runs I used to take a couple of slices of malt loaf and eat them about 6 miles into the run......always got some funny looks.
Did you not get a stitch?
I'm like foxy, I can't eat anything before a run. Even if I drink too much when I'm running I can feel a stitch coming on
50 mins on the tredwmill today at 7kmph with a 15% incline
mixture of walking and running
DanAbnormal
02-01-09, 04:16 PM
Yesterday I hankered after chocolate so ate half a pack of jaffa cakes. :lol:
Lightweight! I polished off two large Toblerone's yesterday.
I did 4 miles yesterday morning. Boy it was nipply!
Lightweight! I polished off two large Toblerone's yesterday.
I did 4 miles yesterday morning. Boy it was nipply!
Two LARGE Toblerones :smt103 was that before or after your 4 mile run :lol: ;)
Made sure that this afternoon's effort was 6 miles. In fact it was more, I haven't driven it yet but I'd guess at 6.5, maybe slightly less, but I know it was more than 6 cos I did yesterday's driven route plus a bit more. Back in 57 mins but I met a friend and forgot to stop my watch, I reckon we were yapping for about 4 mins, so 53 mins for 6.5. Very happy with that.
I wish I was out there now running. :(
It is hard to not go put the kit on and knock a few miles out.
Made sure that this afternoon's effort was 6 miles. In fact it was more, I haven't driven it yet but I'd guess at 6.5, maybe slightly less, but I know it was more than 6 cos I did yesterday's driven route plus a bit more. Back in 57 mins but I met a friend and forgot to stop my watch, I reckon we were yapping for about 4 mins, so 53 mins for 6.5. Very happy with that.
You stopped in the middle of a run to have a chat? I stop for no one. :lol:
You stopped in the middle of a run to have a chat? I stop for no one. :lol:
Me too. In fact if I stop, my legs feel like lead and I find it very hard to get going again so I never stop if I can help it.
Dangerous Dave
02-01-09, 07:23 PM
Goodness, I cannot eat anything for at least an hour before a run, let alone eat anything during lol and definitely don't feel hungry afterwards.
I can eat light up to about 20mins before a run, never had any issues due to food before, don't tend to eat until over an hour after a run though.
You stopped in the middle of a run to have a chat? I stop for no one. :lol:
Me too. In fact if I stop, my legs feel like lead and I find it very hard to get going again so I never stop if I can help it.
+ 1, glad I am not the only one (thought I was getting old)
DarrenSV650S
02-01-09, 08:02 PM
Made sure that this afternoon's effort was 6 miles. In fact it was more, I haven't driven it yet but I'd guess at 6.5, maybe slightly less, but I know it was more than 6 cos I did yesterday's driven route plus a bit more. Back in 57 mins but I met a friend and forgot to stop my watch, I reckon we were yapping for about 4 mins, so 53 mins for 6.5. Very happy with that.
I use google maps to get the mileage
I use google maps to get the mileage
yes try this link
http://www.mapmyrun.co.uk/
I can eat light up to about 20mins before a run, never had any issues due to food before, don't tend to eat until over an hour after a run though.
+ 1, glad I am not the only one (thought I was getting old)
You unsociable bunch of gits:D This was actually a client who's become a friend. He's had severe mental health problems, I used to visit him when he was in the psychiatric hospital. I was very surprised to see him, I wanted to check he was all right, turned out he'd been to see his son. I didn't want him wandering the streets when it was below freezing:smt083 On my soapbox now - why do people treat people with mental illness different to people with physical health problems, it really annoys me....
I use google maps to get the mileage
Good thinking:D I'll do that.
Dangerous Dave
02-01-09, 09:43 PM
You unsociable bunch of gits:D
I don't even stop to talk to mates or family....
On my soapbox now - why do people treat people with mental illness different to people with physical health problems, it really annoys me....
Mental illness covers a lot of things, I guess unless some people understand the full facts they might be a little weary.
DarrenSV650S
02-01-09, 10:24 PM
Did the 2.5 miles tonight but instead of one long rest after 1.5 miles, I had two small walking rests
When I started jogging at the start of the run both of my ankles twinged. My feet were getting sore towards the end
Don't push yourself to hard to soon. I am a sufferer of doing this very thing.
Did the 2.5 miles tonight but instead of one long rest after 1.5 miles, I had two small walking rests
When I started jogging at the start of the run both of my ankles twinged. My feet were getting sore towards the end
Did you do any warm up exercises beforehand and/or stretches?
DarrenSV650S
02-01-09, 11:28 PM
Did you do any warm up exercises beforehand and/or stretches?
I did the normal stretches. Walked down the drive then as I started jogging they twinged
Don't push yourself to hard to soon. I am a sufferer of doing this very thing.
You got that right! It's true though when you feel good rest days are hard on you, but everyone learns the hard way.....you must have rest days or you will very quickly get bad injuries.
I went running last night with Cambridge Harriers, apparently there medium speed bunch for an easy run - my ar$e they nearly killed me running 7 min mile for 5.65 miles, that would equate to a 10k PB for me.......I'm fooked now though.
I use a garmin for getting my mileage, it is the best thing I own.......then I log the runs on Fetcheveryone.com, to keep a record.
You got that right! It's true though when you feel good rest days are hard on you, but everyone learns the hard way.....you must have rest days or you will very quickly get bad injuries.
I went running last night with Cambridge Harriers, apparently there medium speed bunch for an easy run - my ar$e they nearly killed me running 7 min mile for 5.65 miles, that would equate to a 10k PB for me.......I'm fooked now though.
I use a garmin for getting my mileage, it is the best thing I own.......then I log the runs on Fetcheveryone.com, to keep a record.
I bet you feel good though even though you say you are fooked :cool:.
I had a rest day yesterday but I was itching to get out though. I went out this morning and did just over 9 miles :D.
after seeing the ice on the car this morning, i wimped out again, and ended up driving to the gym
7km @ 15% incline took just under 1 hour, 1050cals burnt
after seeing the ice on the car this morning, i wimped out again, and ended up driving to the gym
7km @ 15% incline took just under 1 hour, 1050cals burnt
I know what you mean, I saw the ice on the car and wanted to wimp out too. I was more wrapped up than usual by my face still froze LOL.
That's a lot of calories burnt Hovis. How do you manage to stay focussed on the running machine for a whole hour?
I know what you mean, I saw the ice on the car and wanted to wimp out too. I was more wrapped up than usual by my face still froze LOL.
That's a lot of calories burnt Hovis. How do you manage to stay focussed on the running machine for a whole hour?
mp3 player,
there is also 3 big tvs infront of the tredmills, so i can watch sport or what ever i want to put on, i can also plug my headphones into the tredmill and listen to what im watching. i like to go to the gym for the hour jermy kyle is on, as it seems to fly by, or if theres football/rugby on, i tend to watch that, but listen to music (mostly heavy metal)
mp3 player,
there is also 3 big tvs infront of the tredmills, so i can watch sport or what ever i want to put on, i can also plug my headphones into the tredmill and listen to what im watching. i like to go to the gym for the hour jermy kyle is on, as it seems to fly by, or if theres football/rugby on, i tend to watch that, but listen to music (mostly heavy metal)
I see, I never listen to music when I run, except when I am at the gym of course. I am not sure I would feel so safe plugging headphones into the treadmill whilst I am running though LOL
Lots of pain from both knees today. This is not looking good. :(
Lots of pain from both knees today. This is not looking good. :(
Oh sh!t:( Much sympathy:(
Oh sh!t:( Much sympathy:(
+1 :(. Thought your knee was getting better and now two are hurting, not good!!
Hi y'all, am after a bit of advice please.
Having been extremely unfit for far too long I have decided to start running. I went on a couple of two mile runs before Christmas, but training was curtailed by flu and the festive season.
I started again on Friday, doing the same route, but towards the end I felt a slight twinge in my right calf. It was OK to walk on and only felt tight when stretched. Anyway, all felt OK this morning so I went out and did the same route again. All started well, but towards the end of the route my half pulled again, but this time a bit worse as it feels tight and painful when walking. Its halfway down the calf, where it meets the achilies.
I know Im gonna have to rest, but has anyone any advice on anything else I should do to aid recovery?
Thanks.
Hi y'all, am after a bit of advice please.
Having been extremely unfit for far too long I have decided to start running. I went on a couple of two mile runs before Christmas, but training was curtailed by flu and the festive season.
I started again on Friday, doing the same route, but towards the end I felt a slight twinge in my right calf. It was OK to walk on and only felt tight when stretched. Anyway, all felt OK this morning so I went out and did the same route again. All started well, but towards the end of the route my half pulled again, but this time a bit worse as it feels tight and painful when walking. Its halfway down the calf, where it meets the achilies.
I know Im gonna have to rest, but has anyone any advice on anything else I should do to aid recovery?
Thanks.
Yes. Firstly, you overdid things!!! 2 miles is a fair chunk to start with if you haven't run (much) before and you'd be better starting off with walk/run for a mile. There is NO shame in stopping for a walk every so often. Don't aim so high, as I say run/walk is fine. It's a darn sight more than most people do...
Second, rest it until it stops hurting. You will find that icing it (bag of frozen peas wrapped in a tea towel - never put frozen stuff directly against your skin) for 5 - 10 mins a few times a day will help the swelling go down. Don't force the healing process though, else you'll hurt yourself again. Frustrating....
Thirdly, take 2 IB pills 3 times a day to get rid of the swelling.
Fourthly, when the soreness has gone, try very gentle stretching on it. Nothing violent, just very gentle.
Fifth, when you start running again, be sure to warm the leg properly and if it's still cold out be sure to wear running tights or tracky bottoms to keep the leg warm.
Get fit soon!!
Yes. Firstly, you overdid things!!! 2 miles is a fair chunk to start with if you haven't run (much) before and you'd be better starting off with walk/run for a mile. There is NO shame in stopping for a walk every so often. Don't aim so high, as I say run/walk is fine. It's a darn sight more than most people do...
Second, rest it until it stops hurting. You will find that icing it (bag of frozen peas wrapped in a tea towel - never put frozen stuff directly against your skin) for 5 - 10 mins a few times a day will help the swelling go down. Don't force the healing process though, else you'll hurt yourself again. Frustrating....
Thirdly, take 2 IB pills 3 times a day to get rid of the swelling.
Fourthly, when the soreness has gone, try very gentle stretching on it. Nothing violent, just very gentle.
Fifth, when you start running again, be sure to warm the leg properly and if it's still cold out be sure to wear running tights or tracky bottoms to keep the leg warm.
Get fit soon!!
Thanks Ed.
I can assure you there were periods of walking during the 2 miles, not through choice either :)
I know everyone is different, but roughly speaking, how long can I expect to have to rest before recovery is achieved? Will it be a few days, or am I looking at a couple of weeks?
Dave.
ED is spot on here!
One thing I would also suggest is that when it feels better, slow your run down a bit. Most people go off too quickly which puts too much strain on the legs without adequate warming up.
Unlike ED I never do any static stretching before a run and prefer to warm up by jogging slowly, I do however always stretch afterwards.
Running slowly and often unnaturally is more difficult than running slowly, but will pay dividends.
One other thing, I always tell people is that if they are serious about starting to run go and have you gait analysed and buy proper running shoes and running socks. This can often head-off any aches and pains as they protect your lower legs.
Bigape - I know you run in Nike airs, but are they proper shoes that suit the type of runner you are? If not, that may be a worthwhile exercise for you as it may help elleviate a little bit of the trouble you are having with your bad knees, or at the very least make it more manageable.
I couldn't run without shoes which control my over-pronation.
I know I keep saying it on here, but rest days are so important. Especially in the early days of running, so if you are just starting out I wouldn't suggest more than 3 runs a week. Running can put a lot of stress on your body.
Good luck though.....
I know everyone is different, but roughly speaking, how long can I expect to have to rest before recovery is achieved? Will it be a few days, or am I looking at a couple of weeks?
Dave.
A few days, not a few weeks. Depends how badly you pulled it though. My guess is that you'll be OK by Thursday.
Good advice from Ed there.
I have a those gel cold packs which live in the fridge. Use it primarily when the kids bump into things (as they tend to do) but also for any injuries picked up.
Bigape - I know you run in Nike airs, but are they proper shoes that suit the type of runner you are? If not, that may be a worthwhile exercise for you as it may help elleviate a little bit of the trouble you are having with your bad knees, or at the very least make it more manageable.
I have the air Pegasus trainers which are a neutral trainer. They are at the end of their life cycle now and have ordered and am waiting for Triax 11 trainers which should be better. Especially once I have received the insoles from the orthotics department.
I couldn't run without shoes which control my over-pronation.
I am an over-pronater too. The Triax were one of the specific trainers the hospital recommended for use with insoles.
I am my own worst enemy for not listening to my own advice. I know full well I was doing way too much way too soon. Unfortunately I have always been someone that has to push the limits. It's just my nature. I know the right and wrong things to do. I should do, seeing as I was a PTI in the army. But heeding my own advice is something I have never been very good at. After being given a bit of a lecture last night (cheers, you know who you are) I have re-assessed my program and have drastically reduced what I had planned.
Knees are still aching today so it is unlikely I will be running again tomorrow as I had hoped. Will have to see.
A few days, not a few weeks. Depends how badly you pulled it though. My guess is that you'll be OK by Thursday.
Indeed. But proof is in the pudding as they say. If it feels OK in a few days, try giving a run a go. But if you still get pain. STOP straight away and give it a couple more days. If you have read the recent posts about me and my knees, you will know I have fallen foul of this myself by doing too much too soon and am now paying the price.
Good advice from Ed there.
I have a those gel cold packs which live in the fridge. Use it primarily when the kids bump into things (as they tend to do) but also for any injuries picked up.
I have the air Pegasus trainers which are a neutral trainer. They are at the end of their life cycle now and have ordered and am waiting for Triax 11 trainers which should be better. Especially once I have received the insoles from the orthotics department.
I am an over-pronater too. The Triax were one of the specific trainers the hospital recommended for use with insoles.
I am my own worst enemy for not listening to my own advice. I know full well I was doing way too much way too soon. Unfortunately I have always been someone that has to push the limits. It's just my nature. I know the right and wrong things to do. I should do, seeing as I was a PTI in the army. But heeding my own advice is something I have never been very good at. After being given a bit of a lecture last night (cheers, you know who you are) I have re-assessed my program and have drastically reduced what I had planned.
Knees are still aching today so it is unlikely I will be running again tomorrow as I had hoped. Will have to see.
You were a PTI? No wonder you are a mentalist!
I've been slack with my running (but have swum 3 times this week). Did just over 3 hilly miles yesterday though: flipping hard work but the weather and scenery was fantastic.
I did 8 today, around the south side of S'bury. It was f*cking cold:rolleyes: Got a sore 2nd toe on right foot - it was wearing my Mizunos the first day back. I'd forgotten that they're a tad small. I know what will happen - blister underneath the nail, will turn black, look disgusting, nail will fall off to reveal a rather odd looking new one underneath. Not painful, just a bit of a nuisance, so the Mizunos are relegated to knocking around in and the Kayanos are now the footwear of choice:D
Kayano's ED? What happened to the 2120's?
What Mizunos are they? Not Wave Nirvana?
Kayano's ED? What happened to the 2120's?
What Mizunos are they? Not Wave Nirvana?
Wow you have a good memory!!!
The 2120s - I still have them. Brilliant shoes, I wore them for the last marathon. I bought the Kayanos for next to nothing in a sale when I was doing said marathon in Washington DC 2007, I think they were £30 equivalent! Too good to miss, so I bought 'em. They are very comfortable, really nice ride, if slightly soft for my liking. No real reason for changing, just that I wanted to wear them.
The Mizunos - Wave 7s I think??? Can't remember. I wanted to find something other than Asics at the time (about 2 years ago - I haven't worn them much), but I have to say that I still haven't managed to find a make of shoe that fits me as well.
I bought some 2120's on your recommendation a little while back, may have been just after the Marine Marathon you did. They are OK for faster runs but have no forefoot gel which is nice, when you want them to be more responsive.
I'd like to try something different, did have Adidas Supernova Control 10's, but they didn't last too long. Nice and bouncy though.
Was thinking of Mizuno Wave Nirvana's but have read a lot of reviews where people have gone from Kayano's to them and then gone straight back.
It's snowing here at the moment and I have to wait in for a tumble dryer - gutted 5 miles XC would be lovely right now.
Only way you are going to know for sure if they are the right trainer for you or not is to try them out.
Tumble dryer turned up early, on went the Nike Zoom+ Trails, grabbed the dog and off we went 4.5 miles XC in the snow, ice slush and mud. What a great run!!!
Been following this thread for a while as I find some useful\interesting bits and pieces come up. I don't run very often (I enjoy it but I get problems with my shins) but I'm planning on doing a 1/2 marathon this summer (personal challenge).
Gait analysis - Any suggestions on how\where to get this done? I did have someone look at my gain years ago when first buying some shoes but I've no idea whether they were correct in their analysis - they reckoned I should use pronation control shoes. I've religiously bought Kayanos for years now but I don't know if I'm doing the right thing.
Pull of calf - I've a friend who keeps doing this and has made a bit of a mess of his calves. The advise from his physio is that if he wants to avoid injury he needs to let it heal completely (which might be 6-8 weeks) and then on an ongoing basis perform daily stretches as well as stretches before exercise. Now that's an extreme example but might be of some use.
I can currently plod about 3.5 miles at 10mins\mile. Do peeps think I can reasonably get up to 1/2 marathon distance only doing 1 training run a week?
What are people's thoughts on taking pain killers before running?
I'm certainly no expert in any of these subject so take what I say with some caution. I have only been running for two years so Bigape or Ed may be better suited for advising.
That said correct shoes are very important and may help with your shins. I always get shin pain when I am pushing myself harder. I also used to get it when I first started running as my muscles were not used to doing what I was asking of them. I found that the more I got used to the running the less it hurt, good shoes (Kayano's in my case) also helped.
I still get pain now when I am trying to push myself.
Sweatshop usually have gait analysis in store, not sure if there is one in Northampton. I also found these:
http://www.therunningshop.org.uk/
http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/forum/forummessages.asp?UTN=6402
Sounds like the one in Northampton has a good reputation, if you can take a pair of your old shoes with you.
I dare say you could get up to HM distance doing once a week, but I'm not too sure I'd advise it. If you can manage 3 runs a week, you will easily do it and in a reasonable time, sub-2hrs.
Like all running it is difficult to find time to do it a lot of runners I know get up early just to run and when I trained for the marathon, you would often catch me out pounding past 10pm.
Ideally you need to be confident you can do at least 10 miles before doing a half, when I did my first half, my longest run was 9.5 miles and I can honestly say from 9.5 to 13.1 miles is a real step up. Don't underestimate it.
Hope this helps.
Oh and be really careful taking anything before going out for a run - take something as soon as you come back if required.
How far is Brum from you?
http://www.birminghamrunner.com/pages/advice.php
This is quite a good page too.
http://www.birminghamrunner.com/pages/explained.php
Thankyou for your comments krhall.
I was really pleased when I went for a run a few months ago that I didn't suffer much with my shins. I think\hope it was a mixture of new shoes (Kayanos) and having done some other exercise.
I saw an article in a magazine which gave me some hope that I could overcome the shin thing. It's comments would seem to fit with your experiance that if you build up to it it troubles you less. (It also recommended a couple of stretches and doing toe and something raises).
Right so a running shop is actually the place to get your gait analysed. I was perhaps being a bit thick.
The Runners shop in Northampton was the place where I got my first shoes from and their comments were based on watching me have a plod up and down the street outside. The downside is they are expensive. Still good health is worth a great deal more than a discount on some shoes.
My sister lives in Birmingham so arranging a visit to that other place should be do-able. I can see an advantage in being able to record and playback to analyse gait.
The training once a week is because that is as much as I feel my legs (shins) will cope with. Though as mentioned above maybe I can build up to being able to do more. The weekly run would be complimented by other exercise, though nothing else as strenuous as running. I take your point that I would be better off increasing the frequency if I can.
I will work on increasing the distance. I'm sure I can find training guides online, I'll attempt to take the distance profile of one and adjust it to whatever I feel I can do. It shouldn't be too difficult for me to slowly change the distance I run. It might get repetative doing a short loop multiple times but if it gets the job done.
Your shin splints could be a multitude of different things. It is actually muscular even though it feels like it is your bones. Doing proper stretching before a run is important. You need to stretch the muscles so you are not straining them as soon as you start. Once you have been running for a period of time, stretching becomes less important, especially if your running regularly. But you really should always stretch and warm down afterward.
Read here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/health_and_fitness/4284288.stm) for a basic but understandable definition of shin splints.
Gait analysis is important. Very important if you intend on doing serious miles. A half marathon and the training for it, is considered serious miles. I would suggest that watching you jog down the road and back outside the shop is not really a good way to analyse your gait. You need to be on a running machine with someone down low level behind you watch the strike of the heel and the roll of the foot through the movement.
Different trainers are designed for specific gaits. Wearing the wrong ones could be what is causing your shin splints. Not saying it is, but it could be. Just because you have a £100 pair of trainers that are supposed to be the all singing and dancing footwear for runners, does not mean they are suitable for your feet.
I am at work at the moment so do not have the running stores to hand that do gait analysis. I shall dig that information out when I get home. I think the sweatshop is one of them. It is a free service they give everyone who is looking to purchase trainers. No one says you actually have to go ahead and buy the ones they recommend if you know you can get the cheaper elsewhere(:wink:). They have shops all over and all of them have gait anaysis.
Tumble dryer turned up early, on went the Nike Zoom+ Trails, grabbed the dog and off we went 4.5 miles XC in the snow, ice slush and mud. What a great run!!!
Lucky you :D, sounds great. I haven't been running for two days now due to stomach cramps, the kind you get when you have food poisoning but milder. Not sure what it is but hoping it will clear soon :rolleyes:.
DarrenSV650S
05-01-09, 06:46 PM
Lucky you :D, sounds great. I haven't been running for two days now due to stomach cramps, the kind you get when you have food poisoning but milder. Not sure what it is but hoping it will clear soon :rolleyes:.
That's a good excuse. My excuse is I have a cold;)
plus it's fyaaaaareeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzing!!! :smt103
2mths - first you ned to sort the shin prob. Ape's link is a good one. Also, try http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/search/ and type in shin splints, there are loads of links.
If it's inflamed or swollen I would be tempted to try rubbing in some Voltarol gel (can get it w/out prescription but it's not cheap) and to ice it with a bag of frozen peas wrapped in a tea towel. I'm a bit perplexed on your shoes, cos Kayanos are generally neutral, not pronaton control shoes. And you might find them a bit soft. Also you should try changing the surface you run on - to grass/track.
On the mileage - TBH you will struggle to do 13.1 if you only do a few miles a week. You do need to increase your mileage. Again, runners world site has some good training plans.
Ed - Kayano's are not a neutral shoe - they are for moderate/mild over pronators same as the 2120's.
Asics do also do neutral shoes such as the kinsei, but I am sure the Kayano is a support shoe.
2mths - Rather than increase your mileage, perhaps drop it per run but increase over the week and try to do 3 x 2 miles per week, rather than 1 x 3.5 miles.
Do the shins still hurt after you have finished the run?
Runnersworld as ED says has some useful info, but also some good schedules.
Here is another I have found, this is apparently for a sub-2 HM, as you can see it requires you to be doing a fair bit more than you currently are.
http://www.readinghalfmarathon.com/running/training_mg2.htm (http://www.readinghalfmarathon.com/running/training_mg2.htm)
Ah hah. The Reading half marathon. This is a goal I have set for myself. Although my current state of affairs, it seems unlikely.
£28,50 to enter! Yowsers!
Yeah and only a £1 of that goes to charity.
just planned a 3 mile run on google earth for tomorrow............... although i bet i will end up driving to the gym
just planned a 3 mile run on google earth for tomorrow............... although i bet i will end up driving to the gym
It is good that you have a route planned and there is nothing wrong with going to the gym especially if the weather is as bad as it was this morning.
Get out and get cold bread boy!
Get out and get cold bread boy!
Have you been out running in the cold today? :)
My right knee has finally stopped hurting. Come on lefty knee. Catch up with righty knee. :lol: I need to go for a run. :)
Get out and get cold bread boy!
Have you been out running in the cold today? :)
-7 when I got in the car this morning. A little chilly. :lol:
Have you been out running in the cold today? :)
Not yet but I am going to do a run at lunchtime, to ease my back a bit!
-7 when I got in the car this morning. A little chilly. :lol:
The seat on the CBR was frozen solid this morning, my fingertips had no feeling and I think I can honestly say that I would have swapped and been stuck in traffic given the opportunity!
-10C here in S'bury - it's always cold cos of distance from the sea. I did poke my nose out the duvet at 6am but decided against and made coffee instead. As for riding, well when the ice upon ice upon ice on our (non-gritted) estate shifts, then I might think about it:rolleyes:
DarrenSV650S
06-01-09, 10:32 AM
-10C here in S'bury - it's always cold cos of distance from the sea. I did poke my nose out the duvet at 6am but decided against and made coffee instead. As for riding, well when the ice upon ice upon ice on our (non-gritted) estate shifts, then I might think about it:rolleyes:
You've got a coffee machine in your duvet? ;)
Now that's what I call an electric blanket.....
after the -7 and -10 degees comments i decided to drive to the gym, car said it was -3 so i think i did dight
5km in 36mins
I just finished my run to the Thames Barrier and back along old father Thames.
Sun is shining, it is proper cold and nine miles was just what the doctor ordered.
I just finished my run to the Thames Barrier and back along old father Thames.
Sun is shining, it is proper cold and nine miles was just what the doctor ordered.
Well I am jealous, sounds like a great run :). I take it when you say 'just what the doctor ordered' you mean your back feels a lot better for having run :-D
Completed my first ever run last night. 3 minute run followed by 3 minute walk 5 times. I've for a ten week plan that should see me to 30 minutes non stop......hopefully. Feel a bit tight today, but I don't hurt.
Got myself proper measured up. Apparently I over pronate. Got myself some Sauconys and some running socks. Just got to motivate myself to pound the streets now. Planning on doing the Great South so something to work towards.
Nice one scoobs, apparently about 85% of us over pronate. What shoes did you get?
Rest up then go again in a couple of days.
Foxy - yeah just takes the edge off of the back pain, have an appointment at the docs tonight to hopefully get re-reffered, may also look into doing what ED suggested in the other thread, could do without spending the money but debt is better than this.
Completed my first ever run last night. 3 minute run followed by 3 minute walk 5 times. I've for a ten week plan that should see me to 30 minutes non stop......hopefully. Feel a bit tight today, but I don't hurt.
Got myself proper measured up. Apparently I over pronate. Got myself some Sauconys and some running socks. Just got to motivate myself to pound the streets now. Planning on doing the Great South so something to work towards.
Yes. Well done mate. It is the continues effort that makes it part of your lifestyle. Stick with it and the rewards will come.
I have just been told my new trainers have arrived. I can't wait to get home so I can err look at them. :roll:
What shoes did you get?
Some Saucony summinkoruvers. Wasn't bothered about make or what they looked like, just that they were suited to my running style etc.
I have just been told my new trainers have arrived. I can't wait to get home so I can err look at them. :roll:
Yeah post on here - structure triax are apparently a good kayano alternative.......
5km in 36mins
Hey Hovis, did you mean Km's or Miles. Just wondering as there's a big difference between the two.
-7 when I got in the car this morning. A little chilly. :lol:
Hey Hovis, did you mean Km's or Miles. Just wondering as there's a big difference between the two.
it was km's started off at 9kph, then dropped down to 8kph
:( not very fast i know, but i only have little legs:(
it was km's started off at 9kph, then dropped down to 8kph
:( not very fast i know, but i only have little legs:(
Hey everyone has to have a start point to get better from. I just wondered if you actually meant km's seeing as we are in the UK and work on Miles. :wink:
Hey everyone has to have a start point to get better from. I just wondered if you actually meant km's seeing as we are in the UK and work on Miles. :wink:
the tredmills are in KMs,
working it out, it took 12 mins a mile
just out of intrest what sort of pace are people on here running at?
My pace varies depending on what sort of run I am doing, today I did an interval run, this consisted of:
2 miles WU @ 8:52 - 9:12 mm pace, although it actually ended up being closer to 8:30 - 8:45.
Then 5 x 1200m @ 6:52 - 7:12 with 400m jog recoveries (9:45 - 59:99 mm) in between
and finally 2 miles Cool Down @ 8:52 - 9:12 mm.
Still awake after that boring explanation?
It depends on what you are after, I am following this plan for a specific reason. Just under 10 minute miles are a reasonable pace though, as that would get you a sub-1 hour 10k.
As I said though, depends on what your goal is.
Foxy - yeah just takes the edge off of the back pain, have an appointment at the docs tonight to hopefully get re-reffered, may also look into doing what ED suggested in the other thread, could do without spending the money but debt is better than this.
Good :D. Yes I did see what was suggested and thought it was a really good idea, something I would consider if I was in your position.
I am planning to go for a run early in the morning, probably about 5-6 miles. I live out in the country and lights are few to absolutely nothing for most of the run so I have a head torch which I am going to use. I am a little apprehensive but once I have my first run in the early morning darkness out of the way the rest I am sure will be fine.
Completed my first ever run last night. 3 minute run followed by 3 minute walk 5 times. I've for a ten week plan that should see me to 30 minutes non stop......hopefully. Feel a bit tight today, but I don't hurt.
Got myself proper measured up. Apparently I over pronate. Got myself some Sauconys and some running socks. Just got to motivate myself to pound the streets now. Planning on doing the Great South so something to work towards.
Great news, your first ever run :cheers:. You have your trainers etc... a ten week plan and something to aim for which is really good news. As krhall says make sure you have rest days too, oh and don't forget to stretch off your leg muscles esp after runs :-D
I am planning to go for a run early in the morning, probably about 5-6 miles. I live out in the country and lights are few to absolutely nothing for most of the run so I have a head torch which I am going to use. I am a little apprehensive but once I have my first run in the early morning darkness out of the way the rest I am sure will be fine.
Be careful and no wearing an ipod, it astonishes me how many people I see out with ipods on who do not hear me coming when I'm running and believe me I am loud!!! Scary really as by the time they have jumped out of their skin it is too late.
Be really careful and good luck.
Personally I struggle to get up and out in the mornings, although occasionally I do run to work......don't really enjoy it.
Great news, your first ever run :cheers:. You have your trainers etc... a ten week plan and something to aim for which is really good news. As krhall says make sure you have rest days too, oh and don't forget to stretch off your leg muscles esp after runs :-D
It's made easier as a few of us have decided to do the Great South. None of us runners in the past. Another drunken chat that seemed like a good idea at the time. That's exactly how we all ended up doing the London to Brighton last year.
It's made easier as a few of us have decided to do the Great South. None of us runners in the past. Another drunken chat that seemed like a good idea at the time. That's exactly how we all ended up doing the London to Brighton last year.
I think that's fantastic, stick with it and it is oh so rewarding and enjoyable:D
My pace varies depending on what sort of run I am doing, today I did an interval run, this consisted of:
2 miles WU @ 8:52 - 9:12 mm pace, although it actually ended up being closer to 8:30 - 8:45.
Then 5 x 1200m @ 6:52 - 7:12 with 400m jog recoveries (9:45 - 59:99 mm) in between
and finally 2 miles Cool Down @ 8:52 - 9:12 mm.
Still awake after that boring explanation?
It depends on what you are after, I am following this plan for a specific reason. Just under 10 minute miles are a reasonable pace though, as that would get you a sub-1 hour 10k.
As I said though, depends on what your goal is.
My fastest was 1hr 30m 29 secs for 13.1, that was Helsby (Cheshire) Half in 2003 - works out at 6m50s/mile. Boy was I proud of that, but oh so irritated I went over 1h30m. I'm not nearly so fast now, and I doubt I coud race at that pace again. Marathon PR is 3.19.41 at London, also 2003, that's about 7m37s/mile.
Now I plod along and I don't get overly excited about speed, but I daresay it'll come back. I do roughly 9min miles ATM.
My fastest was 1hr 30m 29 secs for 13.1, that was Helsby (Cheshire) Half in 2003 - works out at 6m50s/mile. Boy was I proud of that, but oh so irritated I went over 1h30m. I'm not nearly so fast now, and I doubt I coud race at that pace again. Marathon PR is 3.19.41 at London, also 2003, that's about 7m37s/mile.
6:50 minute miling for 13.1 miles - I struggled to keep that pace earlier for 1200m. My PB for a half is 1:46 something.
7:37 for a full 26.2 is incredible again my Marathon PB is 4:34, although I robbed myself of a sub-4.
Ed is a proper runner, I am a jogger, but I do aim to knock in a PB at every distance this year, well hopefully.
a 45 min 10k
a 1:45 HM
a 21 min 5k
and possibly a sub-4 marathon would be really nice this year.
Completed my first ever run last night. 3 minute run followed by 3 minute walk 5 times. I've for a ten week plan that should see me to 30 minutes non stop......hopefully. Feel a bit tight today, but I don't hurt.
Got myself proper measured up. Apparently I over pronate. Got myself some Sauconys and some running socks. Just got to motivate myself to pound the streets now. Planning on doing the Great South so something to work towards.
Good work
I am planning to go for a run early in the morning, probably about 5-6 miles. I live out in the country and lights are few to absolutely nothing for most of the run so I have a head torch which I am going to use. I am a little apprehensive but once I have my first run in the early morning darkness out of the way the rest I am sure will be fine.
What headtorch do you use? I ive in the counryside where streetlights barely exist so have been limited to waiting for it to get light in the mornings before I can go for a run, not tried a headtorch before. I always used to run in the dark when I lived in Cardiff and I really miss it.
Been away for work, staying in Birmingham. Went for an early (7:15am) run this morning along the canal and in the city. Was a bit chilly and rather slippery along the tow path. Really enjoyed it though. I love running in cities.
I can't stop myself. I am going for a run early tomorrow morning. I have to try out my new trainers. A short 4 or 6 mile run. :)
I am supposed to be on a half day tomorrow. I have decided to take the whole day off. :D
Aarrrgggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I wish I understood my Garmin.
I can't stop myself. I am going for a run early tomorrow morning. I have to try out my new trainers. A short 4 or 6 mile run. :)
I'll join you at 6am:D
Kev - I remember the day well. 15 January 2003, it was cold, about 1C, and snowing. But everything clicked, I was as fit as a fiddle in those days, I used to run every day. As soon as I set off I knew it would be fast, and I went for it. I had such a runner's high. I could have run and run, and my PR was just the icing on the cake. Ah happy days:D
Aarrrgggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I wish I understood my Garmin.
Is is cause you are thick :?:
Just asking that's all.
Is is cause you are thick :?:
Just asking that's all.
Quite possibly :rolleyes:
Good work
What headtorch do you use? I ive in the counryside where streetlights barely exist so have been limited to waiting for it to get light in the mornings before I can go for a run, not tried a headtorch before. I always used to run in the dark when I lived in Cardiff and I really miss it.
Been away for work, staying in Birmingham. Went for an early (7:15am) run this morning along the canal and in the city. Was a bit chilly and rather slippery along the tow path. Really enjoyed it though. I love running in cities.
I have got a SILVA headtorch which I bought from The Running Shop in Bath. You were lucky to be able to run along the canal and in the city. I am going for a run through Lucknam Park in the morning, it has long driveways and paths through it with acres of land surrounding it. I shall be sticking to the paths and running through the village. There should be some light in the village :-D. Yes that is the only thing about living in the country - no lights :(.
How did you find running in the dark in Cardiff Sarah?
I have got a SILVA headtorch which I bought from The Running Shop in Bath. You were lucky to be able to run along the canal and in the city. I am going for a run through Lucknam Park in the morning, it has long driveways and paths through it with acres of land surrounding it. I shall be sticking to the paths and running through the village. There should be some light in the village :-D. Yes that is the only thing about living in the country - no lights :(.
How did you find running in the dark in Cardiff Sarah?
I loved running after dark, Cardiff was really well lit so not a problem. I really miss it, the village where I now live has about 6 streetlights. Let us know how you get on with the head torch.
I loved running after dark, Cardiff was really well lit so not a problem. I really miss it, the village where I now live has about 6 streetlights. Let us know how you get on with the head torch.
Yes I will let you know how I get on with the head torch as it is the same here with regards to the streetlights.
Be careful and no wearing an ipod, it astonishes me how many people I see out with ipods on who do not hear me coming when I'm running and believe me I am loud!!! Scary really as by the time they have jumped out of their skin it is too late.
Be really careful and good luck.
Personally I struggle to get up and out in the mornings, although occasionally I do run to work......don't really enjoy it.
Yes I will be careful, thank you. I cannot run with music and know what you mean when people can't hear you coming!!
I shall be out at 05:30 brrrrrr and will stick to the paths :-D. I do prefer early morning runs though it sets me up for the day.
Jools'SV Now
06-01-09, 11:48 PM
and now for something a little shorter.......
I do old age sprinting- I hit 40 in april this year
Got a personal best at 60m (yep, sixty metres) at the weekend at an indoor meet.
7.94secs btw
Well chuffed, another year older and still getting quicker!:cheers:
to give you an idea of how fast/slow this old man is, elite men do 6.6 ish, elite women do about 7.2.
Will be trying to break 12secs for the 100 in the summer.:mrgreen:
Any other sprinters out there, or are you all long plodders?
DarrenSV650S
06-01-09, 11:55 PM
You must do some mega stretches for sprinting
I did 5 miles this morning and feel great :cheers:. It is not as cold as I thought it would be either, mind you I did wrap up a little bit more :p.
Sarah - the head torch was great. It allowed me to see as far as I comfortably needed. Mind you I did jump when I saw statues as I was running through the park (that I hadn't noticed there before LOL). I kept looking in front of me and never looked behind. But hey, I did it, no stopping me now :-D
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