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Stew - there are much better marathons about (apparently). Paris is supposed to be a great spring one.
tbh I dont think my achilles would have stood up to the training but I was going to give it a go anyway, however I have revised my running recently, shortened my distances but increased my pace, broke thorough the 9 min mile pace for the first time in ages yesterday so may go for halfs in future
Nice one, I got rejected again this year, 4th time now, dont think Ill bother again, got a nice jacket out of though, so not all bad ;)
isn't there some sort of scheme where you are guaranteed a place if you get rejected 4(?) times?
I think it was 5 rejections and the next one is guaranteed.
I think it was 5 rejections and the next one is guaranteed.
harsh
I am feeling very fortunate to have got a place. Debating whether or not to run for a charity.
Bearing in mind the sad events of the weekend, and the amount of time hovis spent in here and the enthusiasm he showed and the support he offered to us all at some point do you think we should do something in his honour ? I dont mean now cos I know its early days but I mean maybe enter next years Cardiff half as legacy to him ?
Bearing in mind the sad events of the weekend, and the amount of time hovis spent in here and the enthusiasm he showed and the support he offered to us all at some point do you think we should do something in his honour ? I dont mean now cos I know its early days but I mean maybe enter next years Cardiff half as legacy to him ?
Now that my friend is a fantastic idea. I was mulling over the chances of running this year for him but the logistics just dont work out for me. I'm racing the day before, leaving for holiday the day after and its only in two weeks! Maybe a Cardiff half BananaMan team.
Bearing in mind the sad events of the weekend, and the amount of time hovis spent in here and the enthusiasm he showed and the support he offered to us all at some point do you think we should do something in his honour ? I dont mean now cos I know its early days but I mean maybe enter next years Cardiff half as legacy to him ?
That's a lovely idea. I rather fancy running the Cardiff half.
What a cracking idea! I would be up for that for sure.
If not dressed as bananaman then all wearing yellow running vests or something and all collecting sponsorship for the same place he was.
I reckon there would be a lot of org'ers doing it!
doing it next year would give us time to reflect on year without him and be a nice way of keeping his memory alive, I dont want to seem like its a knee jerk reaction thats why I suggested next years run, it obviously meant a lot to him, we could help his cause a bit
What a cracking idea! I would be up for that for sure.
If not dressed as bananaman then all wearing yellow running vests or something and all collecting sponsorship for the same place he was.
I reckon there would be a lot of org'ers doing it!
can you imagine a whole load of us in yellow belting through the streets of cardiff ? he,d appreciate that I reckon.
I am feeling very fortunate to have got a place. Debating whether or not to run for a charity.
In a funny way I feel fortunate, although I would've liked my wife to get in too as we had sort of planned to do it for our 10th Wedding anniversary which is 4 days later.
I ran for charity in 2008 as a gold bond place (minimum sponsorship £1500) which was too much pressure and I vowed never again, but this time I have paid for place so anything I raise, even if it is only £50 is money that will help a charity.
So this morning I decided to e-mail http://www.make-a-wish.org.uk/run-for-wishes/london/ they seem like a great charity, see what comes back from them.
http://www.cardiffhalfmarathon.co.uk/index/registration_form.htm
So as soon as Abingdon is out of the way then we should be able to sign up for it.
I have managed to sort out the charity for VLM and they told me they only have 20 places for the marathon, so every private runner really helps.
Bearing in mind the sad events of the weekend, and the amount of time hovis spent in here and the enthusiasm he showed and the support he offered to us all at some point do you think we should do something in his honour ? I dont mean now cos I know its early days but I mean maybe enter next years Cardiff half as legacy to him ?
That is a great idea Stewie.
speedplay
05-10-09, 05:37 PM
If not dressed as bananaman then all wearing yellow running vests or something and all collecting sponsorship for the same place he was.
I reckon there would be a lot of org'ers doing it!
I spoke to "just giving" this morning and the page Hovis was collecting on that I posted will be staying open.
Ill be running there next year as I'm starting triathlon again next year too so will be fit again.
Ill be using the Hovis page for any collections I make and will add it to his total :)
has there been a decision are who is going to run on 18th oct?
Whens Abingdon btw ?
Same day as Cardiff 18th October!
Same day as Cardiff 18th October!
Less than two weeks away, how do you feel?
Had a nice 4 mile run with a couple of work colleagues at lunch time :D
I have my first physio appointment in about an hour. So I hope after that I will be on the road to improvement\recovery of my knees.
Plowsie - If I do get my knees sorted and yours stands up to it maybe we could look to do some runs together?
I have my first physio appointment in about an hour. So I hope after that I will be on the road to improvement\recovery of my knees.
Plowsie - If I do get my knees sorted and yours stands up to it maybe we could look to do some runs together?
Good luck with your physio appointment
Less than two weeks away, how do you feel?
Nervous - Really Nervous! and I can't stop eating which won't help!
A month back I was in great from and really confident of doing 4 Hours, now I am not so, keep getting small but annoying niggles. It's too late now though so if it's not good enough there's always London!
Just did 7.25 with some strides, in the rain - Running doesn't get any better than that!
Nervous - Really Nervous! and I can't stop eating which won't help!
A month back I was in great from and really confident of doing 4 Hours, now I am not so, keep getting small but annoying niggles. It's too late now though so if it's not good enough there's always London!
Just did 7.25 with some strides, in the rain - Running doesn't get any better than that!
Are you eating the right things or junk too? Yes it is great running in the rain, love it!! Unless of course it is horizontal rain :rolleyes:.
Hopefully you will feel less nervous and more relaxed as it gets closer.
Nope it's all biscuits and crisps and kebabs!
You,ll be fine Kev, I did 3.25 miles in the pouring rain this morning, quite like running in the rain tbh, its nice and cooling and I dunno just strangely pleasant somehow, the wife started running a few months ago and was gobsmacked when I said that you cant not run cos its a bit damp, but after our first wet run together she could see it too, had some of my best times in the wet
plowsie
06-10-09, 02:18 PM
quite like running in the rain tbh strangely pleasant somehow
but after our first wet run together she could see it too
had some of my best times in the wet
Must....resist....
;)
I prefer it too mate, it actually stops me from overheating.
Could I have left meself more wide open ? :D
Ill be out again tomorrow morning, trying to do two days running and one day rest, got to get my speeds down to roundabout 8.10 per mile
gentle 5 miler in the wet this evening, early morning runs are out as its far to dark now.
Good luck with your physio appointment
Thanks :-)
Just in case anyone's interested... No magic solution made. She thinks it could be related to the fact my knees hyper-extend a little, thus putting more strain on my hamstrings than is ideal. So after a thorough exam and whatnot I've got a couple of exercises to do (one a better way for me to stretch my ham's and the better way to gently train them) and going back in a week. In the mean time I can do a very little leg exercise in the gym and I got the ok to play a session of badminton in the next week.
Nervous - Really Nervous! and I can't stop eating which won't help!
A month back I was in great from and really confident of doing 4 Hours, now I am not so, keep getting small but annoying niggles. It's too late now though so if it's not good enough there's always London!
Just did 7.25 with some strides, in the rain - Running doesn't get any better than that!
Come on Kev, get a grip and chill. You know what you are doing, you've passed enough advice my way thats been useful. Just do what you've practiced and see what happens. We can chat about you sub 4 in a few weeks :-, and if not, so what....just try your best dude. Good luck.
Right, strike while the iron is hot, thats my approach. Didnt get a London place this year so my entry is in and accepted for Edinburgh 2010! :-)
Here we go again. And Kev, my sole target is a sub 4 :-)
Thanks :-)
Just in case anyone's interested... No magic solution made. She thinks it could be related to the fact my knees hyper-extend a little, thus putting more strain on my hamstrings than is ideal. So after a thorough exam and whatnot I've got a couple of exercises to do (one a better way for me to stretch my ham's and the better way to gently train them) and going back in a week. In the mean time I can do a very little leg exercise in the gym and I got the ok to play a session of badminton in the next week.
hope exercises etc help. injuries are so flipping annoying.
plowsie
07-10-09, 08:57 AM
2mths, sounds good matey with the running. I will be in touch. Who are you using for your physio?
Been to GP about stoopid shin this morning. He suggested ibuprofen gel on it before running which I thought was a rather cunning plan. Also got a referral to a sports physio, so will sort out appointment with them. Next thing to do is to get some nice new running shoes and see if that helps.
:-D
Also, nearly decided on a charity to run for.
I used to find I always had knee problems when using Nike trainers, now I use Asics and apart from the odd achilles prob so far no worries, good luck with it Sarah and 2 mths
plowsie
07-10-09, 12:12 PM
Soon as I get paid next month (or possibly may scrape it this month), I will enter for the Scottish Marathon.
Need some new trainers. Flymo has given me some good advice. So hopefully all being well I'll have a go at some short distances to see how my knee bears up.
Sarah, let me know how you get on with Ibruprofen gel as that may be a good solution to my ankle and knee swelling that I get after any sort of exercise.
Been to GP about stoopid shin this morning. He suggested ibuprofen gel on it before running which I thought was a rather cunning plan. Also got a referral to a sports physio, so will sort out appointment with them. Next thing to do is to get some nice new running shoes and see if that helps.
:-D
Also, nearly decided on a charity to run for.
Have you tried running lately Sarah or are you waiting until after you have seen the sports physio and some nice new running shoes?
Soon as I get paid next month (or possibly may scrape it this month), I will enter for the Scottish Marathon.
Need some new trainers. Flymo has given me some good advice. So hopefully all being well I'll have a go at some short distances to see how my knee bears up.
Sarah, let me know how you get on with Ibruprofen gel as that may be a good solution to my ankle and knee swelling that I get after any sort of exercise.
I put Biofreeze gel on my foot before I go running and it does help. I ran with a colleague at lunch time whose shins have started to hurt him. I let him use some Biofreeze before he went running and he could feel the difference. There are so many different products out there to try but I find Biofreeze to be a good one.
...I will enter for the Scottish Marathon.
Forgot to mention, you have to wear a kilt ;)
Forgot to mention, you have to wear a kilt ;)
Doesn't wearing a kilt mean wearing no undergarments? :-o ;)
I used to find I always had knee problems when using Nike trainers, now I use Asics and apart from the odd achilles prob so far no worries, good luck with it Sarah and 2 mths
thanks. i have had 4 pairs of (identical) asics. had no probs until this year, v odd.
Have you tried running lately Sarah or are you waiting until after you have seen the sports physio and some nice new running shoes?
i've been sticking to 2 or 3 miles max. might risk 4 at the weekend and sort physio and new shoes for next week :-D
Doesn't wearing a kilt mean wearing no undergarments? :-o ;)
oh yeah, will need some masking tape to avoid runners whiplash:smt112
oh yeah, will need some masking tape to avoid runners whiplash:smt112
Oooeerr masking tape then one would need some soothing cream for when you take the masking tape off :smt043
plowsie
07-10-09, 01:03 PM
oh yeah, will need some masking tape to avoid runners whiplash:smt112
Pfft, no thanks, I'll just have two sore ankles...
Badum Tish.
thanks. i have had 4 pairs of (identical) asics. had no probs until this year, v odd.
i've been sticking to 2 or 3 miles max. might risk 4 at the weekend and sort physio and new shoes for next week :-D
Are you going to use the Ibruprofen Gel if you do risk the 4?
I always thought taking ibruprofen products before a run was bad (not too sure where my info was from) and then on a Sunday run with my club, they were all passing pills and gels etc about - I was amazed!
Now before a big run I always take a 600mg Ibruprofen, does help although I don't really have any issues like yours. When I last went for a sports massage he put some really cold gel on my calfs and they felt great for the next 2 hours, don't know what the stuff was?
I'm just back from an 8.5miler, which was supposed to have 3 x 6:50 - 7:10 m/m in there. I managed 2 of them and a half-arsed 400metres of one at the end. Tough run.
When I last went for a sports massage he put some really cold gel on my calfs and they felt great for the next 2 hours, don't know what the stuff was?
Biofreeze?
I'm just back from an 8.5miler, which was supposed to have 3 x 6:50 - 7:10 m/m in there. I managed 2 of them and a half-arsed 400metres of one at the end. Tough run.
You aren't still eating kebabs etc... are you? :-k
I was always warned not to take any pills or gels before activity in case it hides the pain which is your body telling you to stop, however if a docs telling you otherwise go for it.
Oh yeah Plowsie, dont forget joggers nipple, more painful than childbirth, I would imagine ;)
Pfft, no thanks, I'll just have two sore ankles...
Badum Tish.
A running kilt just for you Plowsie... :cool:
http://www.runningkilts.com/index2.html
Runners nipple - ouch bleeding ones, really sting.
No kebabs today FIL just some pasta, a twirl and a full fat coke - luvvly!
I didn't really believe the whole "runner nipple" thing until after my half marathon when I realised that I'd actually been affected by it - not badly fortunately but I could feel it whenever I got in a warm shower for the next few days. A bit like when you've got surnburn.
plowsie
07-10-09, 03:19 PM
I didn't really believe the whole "runner nipple" thing until after my half marathon when I realised that I'd actually been affected by it - not badly fortunately but I could feel it whenever I got in a warm shower for the next few days. A bit like when you've got surnburn.
Tape over the nips it is then :D
I also used to get 'brackets' in the crack of my @rse when I started running from friction and sweat. The first time I got it was my first HM and man it was hell. Had to get my wife to apply sudocream on it.
Now I apply a generous layer of Vaseline between them for anything over 10k.
Sudocream works for nipples too.
Tape and plasters don't work for me as I am a gorilla and they don't stick properly and then come of with a bit of sweat. I use stuff called Brave Soldier, which seems to do the trick.
Just re-read this - there are some things other people just don't need to know Kev!!!:smt053
I didn't really believe the whole "runner nipple" thing until after my half marathon when I realised that I'd actually been affected by it - not badly fortunately but I could feel it whenever I got in a warm shower for the next few days. A bit like when you've got surnburn.
Silly question. Is is just a man thing runners nipple?? I have never heard of a woman to get it.
Tell you whats worse than the hell of joggers nip, is when your thighs rub together, thats bloody sore
plowsie
07-10-09, 03:29 PM
Chaffing is a basqui!
Silly question. Is is just a man thing runners nipple?? I have never heard of a woman to get it.
try running without a bra, I never leave home with my sports bra now, for me moobs you know :D
Tape over the nips it is then :D
thats just kinky
Are you going to use the Ibruprofen Gel if you do risk the 4?
I always thought taking ibruprofen products before a run was bad (not too sure where my info was from) and then on a Sunday run with my club, they were all passing pills and gels etc about - I was amazed!
Now before a big run I always take a 600mg Ibruprofen, does help although I don't really have any issues like yours. When I last went for a sports massage he put some really cold gel on my calfs and they felt great for the next 2 hours, don't know what the stuff was?
I'm just back from an 8.5miler, which was supposed to have 3 x 6:50 - 7:10 m/m in there. I managed 2 of them and a half-arsed 400metres of one at the end. Tough run.
I was always warned not to take any pills or gels before activity in case it hides the pain which is your body telling you to stop, however if a docs telling you otherwise go for it.
gonna try the ibuprofen gel before next run i think, will go for a 4 miler to make a bit worthwhile.
doc didn't seem to think that i am injured as such but that the weird and uncomfortable shin feeling is due to swelling and that ibuprofen could stop the swelling. i will report back how it goes.
next stop physio and then new shoes i think. hoping that the physio might suggest suitable shoes to try.
yay, running is great :-D
and i love this thread.
I never get dodgy nips if I wear a tight top - only loose tops or vests.
Made my justgiving site www.justgiving.com/kev-hall any thoughts/comments would be appreciated.
I never get dodgy nips if I wear a tight top - only loose tops or vests.
Made my justgiving site www.justgiving.com/kev-hall (http://www.justgiving.com/kev-hall) any thoughts/comments would be appreciated.
A small donation to get you started Kev. Good luck
A small donation to get you started Kev. Good luck
Thanks for that mate. Appreciated.
I never get dodgy nips if I wear a tight top - only loose tops or vests.
Made my justgiving site www.justgiving.com/kev-hall (http://www.justgiving.com/kev-hall) any thoughts/comments would be appreciated.
Is that a tight top or a sports bra like stewie? ;-)
Donated :D
Both really helps!! :)
Although since I started running the moobs are barely visible.
Thank-you.
Does it look ok?
Yeah, it does the job I reckon
Drew Carey
08-10-09, 03:43 PM
Hiya guys, sorry for posting this, but thought I would in case anyone wasn't on the other thread.....
http://forums.sv650.org/showpost.php?p=2057845&postcount=57
Flymo - have you seen this?
http://www.mersey-marathon.co.uk/
I tried ibuprofen gel on my shin before a 4 miler this morning and all seems ok so far. There is normally a bit of a delay until it starts tingling etc so maybe it is yet to come.
Sounds like it may have done the trick.
I have woken up this morning with back pain, the worst I have had for ages.
Flymo - have you seen this?
http://www.mersey-marathon.co.uk/
wow, no I hadnt. thats on my doorstep. Doing Edinburgh in May 2010, might be worth maintaining fitness for this. Interesting.
Sounds like it may have done the trick.
I have woken up this morning with back pain, the worst I have had for ages.
Kev, I was given a really good exercise for this by my physio. Its like a press up.
Lie flat on your front, legs slightly apart, looking forwards. With arms in a near press up position peel the front of your body up as if you were peeling velcro, starting from your head until you can nearly straighten your arms. Try not to tense your ar$e cheeks as you do this. Up and hold for 10 secs then down. 10 reps of these four or five times a day completely sorted my back back that I'ld had for years.
I had always stretched my back forwards, stretching it backwards totally did the trick.
Will try that now - funny my running normally keeps my back in check - the reason I started running.
..funny my running normally keeps my back in check - the reason I started running.
Yeah, me too. When I first started it definately helped but then I was still getting twinges in my back even when running. I went to the physio half way through my marathon training last year for a knee injury and while I was there mentioned my back.
Did me a world of good. First time I've been able to sleep comfortably on my back in years.
I tried ibuprofen gel on my shin before a 4 miler this morning and all seems ok so far. There is normally a bit of a delay until it starts tingling etc so maybe it is yet to come.
That is great Sarah, here's hoping you won't feel anything further :p
Just went for a 7 mile run but got lost and ended up doing 10.5. Got round in 1hr 20m. :lol:
On the subject of shin splints. I seem to be suffering from it at the moment. Get it for the first 3 or 4 miles before it eases off. I blame it on not warming up properly before starting the run. I don't really have time to do warm ups when running in my lunch break. I only have an hour and that includes getting changed both before and after the run.
Not donated yet Kev, will do when I get paid mate.
Don't sweat it mate - It isn't until April.
I'm am doing Abingdon next week just to try and get a PB. London is for Charity.
Only a week to go Kev. Do you have a plan for your last week, diet, training etc...
Well I am following an 18 week plan from a book so I am going to try and stick to that which has me doing mainly slow runs with a few strides.
I will be eating loads of carbs though next week, lucky I like Pasta.
Hopefully my back gets a bit better, it felt better after 5 miles at lunch.
I'm getting really nervous though, on the brightside though my legs feel quite fresh today (first time for a while!).
I remember when I did London in 2008, in my last week I really slowed down on the bike on my way to work and got ultra superstitious which I'm not normally. Have been thinking about using the banger next week instead of the bike though.
I raced at Oulton Park the week before London :-)
Yeah but that's all bikes going in the same direction - commuting to London is another thing! LOL...
Just back from a slow but solid 12 miler in my kit for next week...
Places for sale for next years New York marathon ( im tempted, but going to go for the Brecon 45 Ultra. I think) http://209events.com/enews/lt/t_go.php?i=146&e=MTU5OTk=&l=-http--www.runnewyork.co.uk
Bl00dy expensive though isn't it?
I was thinking of doing NY.
Not long for Abingdon now...
Bl00dy expensive though isn't it?
I was thinking of doing NY.
Not long for Abingdon now...
Not too bad if it includes a flight, I'm sure you could book your own flight cheaper though. If I was going to the trouble of running the NY marathon I would be making a short holiday of it too. Got my 2010 marathon lined up now so would be looking for 2011.
I remember saying I was only going to do one marathon....:rolleyes:
plowsie
12-10-09, 10:06 AM
Good luck for Abingdon Kev.
I start my training tomorrow. 3 miles, I'd say 'piece of pi$s', it won't be though. I predict 1 mile in I'll want to give up. Gotta fight that though.
Flymo has given me a link to a training program which looks achievable.
...I start my training tomorrow. 3 miles, I'd say 'piece of pi$s', it won't be though. I predict 1 mile in I'll want to give up. Gotta fight that though.....
Give it time, you'll likely find that the first few miles are the hardest and then it gets easier. I found that the first 3 miles feel a little difficult when the distance increases but after that you get into your stride and things get easier.
It doesnt take that long to get used to it.
I start my training tomorrow. 3 miles, I'd say 'piece of pi$s', it won't be though. I predict 1 mile in I'll want to give up. Gotta fight that though.
Plowsie don't woory about it if you have to walk/run you are just coming back from injury, so the last thing you need is to push too hard and injure yourself more.
Run slowly, so it feels more slow than you think you should be running.
I remember saying I was only going to do one marathon....:rolleyes:
I said "NEVER AGAIN", then the next morning sat on the internet trying to get a place for the following year.
plowsie
12-10-09, 10:53 AM
Run slowly, so it feels more slow than you think you should be running.
Yeah but then my main worry is time taken. Isn't that something I need to be focussing on?
Ignore time for now mate and get your legs in the right shape and build stamina.
Once you are used to running again then build speed work in.
Ignore time for now mate and get your legs in the right shape and build stamina.
Once you are used to running again then build speed work in.
totally agree, covering the distance is the important thing to concentrate on.
Yeah but then my main worry is time taken. Isn't that something I need to be focussing on?
Dont even take a stopwatch mate, you dont want any extra pressure when you start and dont worry about run/ walking, main thing is to build up your stamina, just take it easy and enjoy it :)
Any of you guys done a beep test ? got to do a medical/fitness test for my entrance to the RAF auxilliaries.
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