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Seeker
10-06-21, 06:16 AM
On a previous SV, I had a HiFlo Filtro oil filter go rusty too, I agree that the finish on the starter motor is fragile. I polish it in the summer and ACF50 in the winter (plus the Worlds Largest Mudflap™ helps).
I find that Chemical Guys "Tire and Trim Gel" works well as a general protecterant (is that a word?), although it's for rubber/vinyl, it seems to protect metal (not too surprising since I think it's oil based).

https://www.chemicalguysuk.co.uk/shop/exterior/tire-vinyl-dressings-cleaners-exterior/chemical-guys-tvd_108_16gel-black-forever-trim-tireshine-protect-16oz/

I use an old dish sponge to apply it and a little goes a long way. (I don't have any affiliation with Chemical Guys, but if they read this and want to bribe me, I'm open to spreading the word further :) )

DJ123
10-06-21, 09:51 AM
See avatar. That is the oil filter on my September 2021 sv650 after about 4,000 miles. I have never had the paint finish flake off an oil filter like that before on any bike . The dealer and Suzuki don't want to know under the warranty , saying it is not a manufacturing fault and something has 'got at it', whatever that is supposed to mean. Obviously corrosion will occur if the paint flakes off to leave exposed bare metal. I know it will be changed at the next service but the starter motor finish is poor as well. I would say the paint finish is part of the manufacturing process ! Anyway, a different response and after sales service from Suzuki compared to Honda. The paint came off in places on the exhaust silencer box on my 2018 Honda CB650F and Honda replaced the whole exhaust system under the warranty!

It suffers due to the location being directly behind the front wheel - stone chips, road debris etc. And lets be honest it's only an oil filter, so long as its filtering oil and not leaking - is it really an issue?

yokohama
10-06-21, 10:39 AM
That is the oil filter on my September 2021 sv650after about 4,000 miles. I have never had the paint finish flake off an oil filter like that before on any bike .!

Maybe moving backwards through space and time into another dimension when you and the SV returned from the future did it. Oil filter paint burnt off during re-entry. :):):)

Chris_SVS
10-06-21, 03:28 PM
My employers: Couldn't organise a ****up in a brewery so I end up having shifts swapped around to suit the mono braincelled shirtfillers they employ.

4 on 1 off 4 on has turned into 3 on 6 on then they'll message me asking would I be able to cover my own booked and approved holidays.

Adam Ef
10-06-21, 07:45 PM
That would have been my guess. It's an absolute joke isn't it 2015-2018 (+ ?) were bad years for logic boards. We had nearly 100% failure at work, great deal when they're double the cost of a similar less trendy laptop.


It was 6.5 years old, similar to the lifespan of my previous one. They did do data recovery from the old one onto a new one I've just bought (as long as I bought it from them) and set it up for me the same as the old one. I collected my new one this evening. I'm able to type and get back on here again.

svenrico
10-06-21, 08:19 PM
It suffers due to the location being directly behind the front wheel - stone chips, road debris etc. And lets be honest it's only an oil filter, so long as its filtering oil and not leaking - is it really an issue?
But I have a plastic extension plus a rubber mudflap fitted to the front mudguard to give as much protection as possible . It is a bit of an issue if you happen to see a bike you fancy and ask the dealer to value your bike in part exchange and when they look at the front of the bike the first thing they comment on is the rust ! Plus ,Suzuki's unwillingness to just replace it under warranty and accept the paint finish should not flake off in big chunks like that.
But as you say, the main thing is if it is actually working.
But just compare this with Honda's after sales service replacing a full exhaust system without any quibble when paintwork came off the silencer box on my previous bike !

svenrico
10-06-21, 08:21 PM
Maybe moving backwards through space and time into another dimension when you and the SV returned from the future did it. Oil filter paint burnt off during re-entry. :):):)
Hadn't thought of that. That could be the answer ! I thought I smelt burning.

svenrico
10-06-21, 08:25 PM
Re oil filter - I realise I could just paint it but I thought with a brand new bike Suzuki might have been a bit more helpful.

svenrico
10-06-21, 10:39 PM
Was hoping to go to road racing at Croft this weekend but all tickets have been allocated. I was (obviously wrongly) assuming I could just turn up and pay on the gate as I used to do before restrictions.

CheGuevara
11-06-21, 07:43 AM
Was hoping to go to road racing at Croft this weekend but all tickets have been allocated. I was (obviously wrongly) assuming I could just turn up and pay on the gate as I used to do before restrictions.


On my bucket list to do a track day there. My grandfather flew out of there on a Lancaster as part of the RCAF 434 squadron (there's a monument for them in Dalton-on-Tees just up the road). I've been twice -to show my Mom and my Aunt the site when they were visiting from Canada - both times had race events underway and we were able to just wander in and grab a bit of grassy bank and enjoy the racing. And imagine those massive bombers heading down the runway...



http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/p/136436/1645746/1227842386407/h.l.hooper%27s_wimpy+1.jpg

Bibio
11-06-21, 10:02 AM
My employers: Couldn't organise a ****up in a brewery so I end up having shifts swapped around to suit the mono braincelled shirtfillers they employ.

4 on 1 off 4 on has turned into 3 on 6 on then they'll message me asking would I be able to cover my own booked and approved holidays.

people being off.

if you do extra your employers will think you will always do extra. you will get no thanks.

Chris_SVS
11-06-21, 10:24 AM
people being off.

if you do extra your employers will think you will always do extra. you will get no thanks.
I'm a bit in the middle with this. I'm happy to do extra shifts as I intend to purchase a house next year and every little helps, but also just want to be left alone on my own pattern. Nightshift is very much handy money for doing nothing (I play Call of Duty, Counterstrike and world of warships most of the night)

*In the last 5 mins I've learned that my other colleagues are also getting texts and are as confused - message from t'office it's all back to normal :smt064

admin
11-06-21, 03:30 PM
Just took my wife to the local retail park to get some shoes. Someone has left two used nappies on the pavement outside one of the biggest stores. What the feck is wrong with people? There's a bin 20ft away. It sounds like I live in a rough neighborhood, which it isn't. And yes I did the right thing and binned them.

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svenrico
11-06-21, 09:51 PM
people being off.

if you do extra your employers will think you will always do extra. you will get no thanks.

I have known some employers a bit like that - if you aren't careful the exception becomes regarded as the norm !

Seeker
12-06-21, 06:01 AM
Fox cubs! Aren't they cute...

... wait a minute, what are they chewing? Aren't they they the adaptors for my rotary clothes line?
Stop that, you little buggers (They ran off with them).

garynortheast
12-06-21, 07:49 AM
Fox cubs! Aren't they cute...

... wait a minute, what are they chewing? Aren't they they the adaptors for my rotary clothes line?
Stop that, you little buggers (They ran off with them).

Ha ha! That made me laugh.

SV650rules
12-06-21, 09:30 AM
Just took my wife to the local retail park to get some shoes. Someone has left two used nappies on the pavement outside one of the biggest stores. What the feck is wrong with people? There's a bin 20ft away. It sounds like I live in a rough neighborhood, which it isn't. And yes I did the right thing and binned them.

Sent from my SM-T510 using Tapatalk


I used to work in a design office and the carpark backed on to a road that was used as access to a school. We used to regularly get used nappies in the carpark, the schoolkids also used to slip into our carpark and smoke ( quite a pile of fag ends left behind ), don't even mention the rubbish from MacDonalds etc. We often saw some dodgy looking characters in parked cars with window wound down talking to kids... where were the Police - nowhere to be seen.

Luckypants
12-06-21, 09:56 AM
. where were the Police - nowhere to be seen.
Did you report it to the police? Because if they are not told, how the AF do you expect them to be there?

SV650rules
12-06-21, 11:11 AM
Did you report it to the police? Because if they are not told, how the AF do you expect them to be there?


LOL

CheGuevara
12-06-21, 11:19 AM
Toyota's and rust! Trying this morning to fit a towbar to my '04 landcruiser, and getting absolutely screwed at every step by rust. Can't even get the bolts in without an M12 fine tap (which I haven't got), so will need to button the whole lot up and either order the tap and start again, or give up and just buy a towbar for our CRV.

Oh, also rounded one of the (rust siezed) bolts for the tow hook, which needs to be removed. I reckon that will need to be welded out now.

As LCs go, mine isn't bad (relatively) for rust either.

timwilky
12-06-21, 11:32 AM
65 years ago, my parents recieved a Wedgwood dinner service from my maternal grand parents as a wedding present, (They also gave them a 3 bed semi) I now own the dinner service, alas the semi was traded up and divorce.

So at present I have a plaster cast on my broken left wrist. A brace securing my realigned right thumb meaning to hold anything requires two hands as I have no grip on either hand. So this morning I saw a plate falling, got to it with one hand and managed to knock it onto the tiled floor, smash. Wife comes running and more earache about how useless I am.

Fortunately, it was a relatively common pattern and oddments turn up on auction sites. But never cheap and the phrase perfect condition appears to cover multiple scratches, chips and cracks. And whenever I start looking, i end up buying loads I already have, to get the piece I need

Bibio
14-06-21, 09:45 AM
finding all my fly fishing gear in my lockup in a soaking wet bag...... i thought it was in the attic where its nice and dry.

Seeker
14-06-21, 11:29 AM
finding all my fly fishing gear in my lockup in a soaking wet bag...... i thought it was in the attic where its nice and dry.

So is the gripe wet gear or roof leak?

Bibio
14-06-21, 11:38 AM
cast alloy reals + water for long time = furry mess. also lost a lot of flies and lines.

reels are soaking in ACF-50 as i type...

Sir Trev
14-06-21, 06:50 PM
Next door is trimming his hedge between our back gardens when all I want to do is relax after a hard day. He has the cheapest, noisiest 2-stroke multi-tool imaginable (it only runs for a few minutes at a time before conking out) with a really short blade so it takes him hours to get nowhere. He has zero gardening skills and normally just cuts things down. This means I need to get out and use my quiet, rechargeable Stihl trimmer to do my hedge between us out front or he'll try and do it, leaving it a scruffy, uneven mess like he did last time (I waited for the family to go out and did it again).

Thank flip the blue tits have just fledged from the box beside the hedge he is making a mess of or he could well have doomed them. Even luckier is I bet he never noticed the blackbirds nesting in the hedge, or that they gave up a few weeks ago (probably disturbed by their wretched cat) or he'd be sealing their fate too... You don't trim hedges until the end of June normally for this reason!

BoltonSte
16-06-21, 07:06 AM
Rear puncture - got geared up to head to work and there's a screw in it, must have picked it up on the back street on Monday coming home.

1st one in 12 years so I've had a good innings, and hopefully it can be repaired - I'll find out later. Single sider and I don't have any stands yet so need to ride it down to the local tyre place as I'm out on it tonight.

svenrico
16-06-21, 12:37 PM
Next door is trimming his hedge between our back gardens when all I want to do is relax after a hard day. He has the cheapest, noisiest 2-stroke multi-tool imaginable (it only runs for a few minutes at a time before conking out) with a really short blade so it takes him hours to get nowhere. He has zero gardening skills and normally just cuts things down. This means I need to get out and use my quiet, rechargeable Stihl trimmer to do my hedge between us out front or he'll try and do it, leaving it a scruffy, uneven mess like he did last time (I waited for the family to go out and did it again).

Thank flip the blue tits have just fledged from the box beside the hedge he is making a mess of or he could well have doomed them. Even luckier is I bet he never noticed the blackbirds nesting in the hedge, or that they gave up a few weeks ago (probably disturbed by their wretched cat) or he'd be sealing their fate too... You don't trim hedges until the end of June normally for this reason!
Does it remind you of the smell of 2 stroke racing bikes though ?

SV650rules
16-06-21, 12:45 PM
Does it remind you of the smell of 2 stroke racing bikes though ?




Castrol R for hedge trimmers, leaf blowers and chainsaws - Yeah ( Castrol Power 1 racing 2T - modern oil with great smell )

Sir Trev
16-06-21, 07:28 PM
Does it remind you of the smell of 2 stroke racing bikes though ?

Yes - a very badly tuned racing moped with a badly fitted spannie... Those cheap multi-tools from a DIY shed are usually very small capacity gutless things with garbage attachments, so hopefully it will break down soon. He got it last year and I doubt he has the first idea about servicing so it must be on borrowed time by now!

Swin
16-06-21, 07:58 PM
Yes - a very badly tuned racing moped with a badly fitted spannie... Those cheap multi-tools from a DIY shed are usually very small capacity gutless things with garbage attachments, so hopefully it will break down soon. He got it last year and I doubt he has the first idea about servicing so it must be on borrowed time by now!

That's what you think - the damn thing will be annoying you 5 years from now and continuing to refuse to die :) :)

redtrummy
17-06-21, 09:12 AM
I have one of those multi tools! The lad bought it 10 years ago unbeknown to me when we moved to a house with a large garden. It has had many bodges when bits have broken. It needs a replacement carb (£6) every few years as the seals and diaphragm give up the ghost but overall its been a God send. The chainsaw attachment on the end of the long pole is great for controlling the over large apple and damson trees. The strimmer with a new head is great too. I rarely use the hedge cutter as my battery powered cutter is more user friendly. Totally concur re cutting hedges during the nesting season - I know of two nests in our hedges at the moment - but none in the six bird boxes scattered around!

embee
17-06-21, 09:22 AM
.....- I know of two nests in our hedges at the moment - but none in the six bird boxes scattered around!

That's 60 million years of evolution for you.

daktulos
18-06-21, 05:05 PM
Went out today in unpleasant weather, came home with a wet stomach and a wet crotch. It looks like both jacket and trousers have failed me at being waterproof.

I don't suppose anyone knows if it's worth re-waterproofing the trousers, or am I just fooling myself? (They're ancient Rukkas).

R1ffR4ff
18-06-21, 05:35 PM
Went out today in unpleasant weather, came home with a wet stomach and a wet crotch. It looks like both jacket and trousers have failed me at being waterproof.

I don't suppose anyone knows if it's worth re-waterproofing the trousers, or am I just fooling myself? (They're ancient Rukkas).

I use GT85 PTFE chain lube to re-waterproof all my riding gear.


https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/gt85-lubricant-oil-spray-400ml/p/0337625

Best price @ Wilko.


Done outside as although it's not an unpleasant smell it is pervasive until it dissipates which can take an hour or so if outside, longer inside.

redtrummy
18-06-21, 07:25 PM
You could try Nixwax cleaner and then re-proofer appropriate for the material.

DJ123
18-06-21, 07:36 PM
Went out today in unpleasant weather, came home with a wet stomach and a wet crotch. It looks like both jacket and trousers have failed me at being waterproof.

I don't suppose anyone knows if it's worth re-waterproofing the trousers, or am I just fooling myself? (They're ancient Rukkas).

Being Rukka, i am guessing it's a laminated Gortex suit? Are you sure it's not a zipper that has leaked in the weather somewhere?

svenrico
18-06-21, 10:42 PM
Went out today in unpleasant weather, came home with a wet stomach and a wet crotch. It looks like both jacket and trousers have failed me at being waterproof.

I don't suppose anyone knows if it's worth re-waterproofing the trousers, or am I just fooling myself? (They're ancient Rukkas).
If they are Rukka ,yes. Rukka gear is top of the range gear isn't it?

svenrico
18-06-21, 10:43 PM
I use GT85 PTFE chain lube to re-waterproof all my riding gear.


https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/gt85-lubricant-oil-spray-400ml/p/0337625

Best price @ Wilko.


Done outside as although it's not an unpleasant smell it is pervasive until it dissipates which can take an hour or so if outside, longer inside.
Is that really suitable for waterproofing clothing ?!

embee
18-06-21, 11:06 PM
I've used the Nikwax Techwash and then Nikwax TX Direct on my pretty old Rukka stuff, which seems to work OK. You must not use detergents.

Having said that, this stuff has come out since I used the Nikwax, haven't tried it but it is approved by Rukka and the reviews sound positive so ........
https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/425438?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlqyPkaWi8QIVBPlRCh2yBgCQE AQYASABEgKgHfD_BwE

Adam Ef
19-06-21, 06:19 AM
IYou must not use detergents.






I'll confirm that. Traditional detergents have wetting agents to draw water deep into the fabric in the wash and get it really clean. Traces of this stay behind on the material after the wash and draw water into the fabric in the rain. Tech wash doesn't have wetting agents and is a lot more gentle.


Dirt in fabric can act as a wetting agent too, so you do need to wash waterproofs before adding Nixwax etc. If you use a washing machine to wash them then you'll need to get it really clean first too. Usually an empty cleaning wash with the machine as hot as it will go to get rid of all traditional deteregent residue.



Don't ask me how I learnt about wetting agents. Suffice to say I have a Goretex pro jacket that wasn't much use not long after buying it. Luckily just a regular jacket and not expensive bike kit.

daktulos
19-06-21, 06:49 AM
Being Rukka, i am guessing it's a laminated Gortex suit? Are you sure it's not a zipper that has leaked in the weather somewhere?

They're non-laminated trousers, the zip is outside the liner so it's not that. They're also over 20 years old so I may be asking a bit much.

I had a look at replacements, and they cost £500-£1100! I think I'll give the Nikwax a go first, as I'm sure we have some somewhere.

Thanks for all the replies.

daktulos
19-06-21, 10:54 AM
They're non-laminated trousers, the zip is outside the liner so it's not that. They're also over 20 years old so I may be asking a bit much.

I had a look in better light (and with reading glasses) this morning, and there's a bit of the inner liner which has worn through at the crotch, through it I can see that the tape has come free from the seam for about an inch.

As much as I'd like to say something about it being an area of heavy use, I suspect it's more likely to be because they're a bit big for me now and probably get folded a bit.

I've seen some adverts for glue for taped seams, but it may be time to get my wallet out.

Bibio
20-06-21, 10:09 AM
when i hit the deer a few years ago and ripped my Rukka gear i used THIS STUFF (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seam-Sealing-Tape-T-2000X-Waterproof/dp/B00YP68TVM) to repair it. you will be hard pressed to get better than the gear you have at reasonable cost. if you do decide to buy new i suggest you get the new 3 layer pro stuff. the ''liner'' is bonded to the outer so the outer does not saturate with water making the clothing quicker to dry and not as heavy when wet than the older drop liner stuff.

timwilky
20-06-21, 10:57 AM
Ordered a new airline to replace the 20 yr old one that was starting to break down 20m x 13mm ID.

They phone me, we have had a wrong delivery. Can we send you a 15m and a 5m length.....Refund. Why would I order 20m if 15 was suficient?

daktulos
20-06-21, 03:54 PM
when i hit the deer a few years ago and ripped my Rukka gear i used THIS STUFF (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seam-Sealing-Tape-T-2000X-Waterproof/dp/B00YP68TVM) to repair it. you will be hard pressed to get better than the gear you have at reasonable cost. if you do decide to buy new i suggest you get the new 3 layer pro stuff. the ''liner'' is bonded to the outer so the outer does not saturate with water making the clothing quicker to dry and not as heavy when wet than the older drop liner stuff.

Thanks, I'll take a look at it. I've had a look at replacements, and there are three-layer laminated and two-layer laminated (does that mean there's no comfort liner in the three-layer ones? I'm tempted to take a look at some alternative nordic brands, e.g.

https://www.motolegends.com/trousers/halvarssons-wish-pant.html

Obligatory gripe: I was out officiating athletics in Ware this afternoon, and I went to scan a Covid QR code, and it told me I had to isolate for 8 days :shock:

Bibio
20-06-21, 07:15 PM
the three layer laminated pro is the outer shell and instead of a waterproof drop inner layer its all bonded inside to the outer the three layer are the outer ''cordura'' with a bonded breathable 2 layer goretex. the inside is usually mesh + removable ''winter'' liners. they really are the beezz kneezz.

i would be weary of a two layer as it says nothing about it being breathable. saying that i have never heard a bad word about Halvarssons gear. you pays your money.

embee
20-06-21, 11:17 PM
I have a few Halvarssons items, all very good. Possibly not quite the same level as Rukka (or what it used to be anyway), but still very nice stuff and sensible prices.

svenrico
20-06-21, 11:20 PM
the three layer laminated pro is the outer shell and instead of a waterproof drop inner layer its all bonded inside to the outer the three layer are the outer ''cordura'' with a bonded breathable 2 layer goretex. the inside is usually mesh + removable ''winter'' liners. they really are the beezz kneezz.

i would be weary of a two layer as it says nothing about it being breathable. saying that i have never heard a bad word about Halvarssons gear. you pays your money.
A lot of gear says it is waterproof and breathable but how breathable is another matter !

svenrico
20-06-21, 11:30 PM
Does anybody still wear waxed cotton jackets ? Think they are waterproof but don't know how they are for breathability ! I used to have one years ago that somebody gave me - real greaser's gear, especially when they get a bit old and mucky !

Seeker
21-06-21, 06:50 AM
HMRC Self Assessment tax form

...and I quote:

"Our records show that your 2020 to 2021 PAYE Notice of Coding includes an adjustment for tax underpaid.

Amount of estimated underpaid tax for 6 April 2020 to 5 April 2021 to be included in your PAYE tax code for 6 April 2021 to 5 April 2022 (from your PAYE Notice of Coding):
£ 0.00
Is this figure correct?"

I swear they put these things in to bamboozle you. It worked: I am bamboozled.

______________

Edit: so I phoned - 18 minutes of hold later I spoke to a nice Scottish lady. "Yes": she said, "It is supposed to be £0, it is confusing".

I have no words...

embee
21-06-21, 01:44 PM
Tell them it should be ten times as much.

Swin
21-06-21, 02:29 PM
Tell them it should be ten times as much.

And if they make it 10 times more, you'll share it with them 50-50 :)

Bibio
21-06-21, 04:20 PM
before i start i regard Fife council as one of the best councils in Scotland if not the UK.

but... trying to get an appointment to see a customer representative is a fekin nightmare. they tell you to do everything online.. ok.. go to book an appointment at my local office only to have a prompt to sign up to mygov.scot... ermm no. so i phone up and wait 45min as everyone is doing the same.

get through and make an appointment without having to register to mygov.scot.. figure that out.

as far as their website is concerned all their local offices are open with opening times and no mention of having to book an appointment.... only found that out when i went round to the local office.

svenrico
21-06-21, 11:09 PM
HMRC Self Assessment tax form

...and I quote:

"Our records show that your 2020 to 2021 PAYE Notice of Coding includes an adjustment for tax underpaid.

Amount of estimated underpaid tax for 6 April 2020 to 5 April 2021 to be included in your PAYE tax code for 6 April 2021 to 5 April 2022 (from your PAYE Notice of Coding):
£ 0.00
Is this figure correct?"

I swear they put these things in to bamboozle you. It worked: I am bamboozled.

______________

Edit: so I phoned - 18 minutes of hold later I spoke to a nice Scottish lady. "Yes": she said, "It is supposed to be £0, it is confusing".

I have no words...

Whoever is responsible for this sort of wording on documents should be sacked. Have they no common sense ?!

Bibio
22-06-21, 09:33 AM
HMRC Self Assessment tax form

...and I quote:

"Our records show that your 2020 to 2021 PAYE Notice of Coding includes an adjustment for tax underpaid.

Amount of estimated underpaid tax for 6 April 2020 to 5 April 2021 to be included in your PAYE tax code for 6 April 2021 to 5 April 2022 (from your PAYE Notice of Coding):
£ 0.00
Is this figure correct?"

I swear they put these things in to bamboozle you. It worked: I am bamboozled.

______________

Edit: so I phoned - 18 minutes of hold later I spoke to a nice Scottish lady. "Yes": she said, "It is supposed to be £0, it is confusing".

I have no words...

looks to me like they are asking you if you have to pay tax as you are self employed. this will be part of the self assessment return. basically do you owe them tax....

i could be wrong... i usually am.

Seeker
22-06-21, 10:23 AM
looks to me like they are asking you if you have to pay tax as you are self employed. this will be part of the self assessment return. basically do you owe them tax....

i could be wrong... i usually am.

I'm retired. I suspect the problem lies with a small annuity that just started, my birthday is one day before the end of the tax year - HMRC sent me a new tax code of 48T (the annuity is for £480) and dropped my previous 1250L to a 1201L. The "T" suffix means the tax code won't change until they've reviewed it - there was no indication when that would be or the implications of any change.
I just included the annuity as income and paid the taxes due. There was further confusion (for me) because my April USA Social security was late - it arrived on the 6th April instead of the 3rd but I included it in last year's tax year.
What became clear on my second call to HMRC (hold time 25 mins) is that the people manning the phones aren't well versed in our tax system either.

It costs $36000/hr to fly an F35 (says Lockheed) so my tax due has paid for about 2.3 minutes of flight time, not sure if that includes a pilot. :)

maviczap
24-06-21, 06:27 PM
What became clear on my second call to HMRC (hold time 25 mins) is that the people manning the phones aren't well versed in our tax system either.


Unfortunately, they're in a call centre, following a script or flow chart.

If it doesn't compute, they don't know, they aren't trained Tax Officers. In the olden days, you could visit your local tax office, whether it was Income or VAT.

But some bright spark thought it better to centralise everything and put it online.

Chris_SVS
24-06-21, 08:49 PM
Collected my new car this morning, within 20mins it was nearly written off 3 times, not by my doing..

garynortheast
24-06-21, 09:01 PM
Bloody hell Chris! You'll be lucky to make it through the week without it being trashed at that rate!

Chris_SVS
24-06-21, 09:05 PM
I used much more colourful language than that..

garynortheast
24-06-21, 09:11 PM
I used much more colourful language than that..

:smt046 :smt046

I bet!

svenrico
25-06-21, 01:14 AM
before i start i regard Fife council as one of the best councils in Scotland if not the UK.

but... trying to get an appointment to see a customer representative is a fekin nightmare. they tell you to do everything online.. ok.. go to book an appointment at my local office only to have a prompt to sign up to mygov.scot... ermm no. so i phone up and wait 45min as everyone is doing the same.

get through and make an appointment without having to register to mygov.scot.. figure that out.

as far as their website is concerned all their local offices are open with opening times and no mention of having to book an appointment.... only found that out when i went round to the local office.
Doesn't sound like it is one of the best in the UK to me !

svenrico
25-06-21, 01:15 AM
Collected my new car this morning, within 20mins it was nearly written off 3 times, not by my doing..
How could it be nearly written off 3 times in 20 minutes ?! :confused:

Seeker
25-06-21, 07:19 AM
Amazon.

I don't like using Amazon but my son sends me Amazon gift cards for b/days/Father's day etc. I ordered 3 books and I could select free shipping (I don't have Prime) or I could, for £3.99, select fewer deliveries/boxes.

It seems to me this is the wrong way round, if Amazon are having to make fewer deliveries and use less packaging shouldn't that be cheaper for me? Since I'm trying to reduce my carbon footprint I selected fewer deliveries whilst cursing Bezos.

On a side note you may be aware that Bezos is going to be the first to use his toys-for-rich-kids space jaunt. Did you know that a petition to stop him returning to Earth has been started? (currently with 70,000 signatures :) )

admin
25-06-21, 07:38 AM
Collected my new car this morning, within 20mins it was nearly written off 3 times, not by my doing..Tell us more!

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DJ123
25-06-21, 08:30 AM
Amazon.

I don't like using Amazon but my son sends me Amazon gift cards for b/days/Father's day etc. I ordered 3 books and I could select free shipping (I don't have Prime) or I could, for £3.99, select fewer deliveries/boxes.

It seems to me this is the wrong way round, if Amazon are having to make fewer deliveries and use less packaging shouldn't that be cheaper for me? Since I'm trying to reduce my carbon footprint I selected fewer deliveries whilst cursing Bezos.

On a side note you may be aware that Bezos is going to be the first to use his toys-for-rich-kids space jaunt. Did you know that a petition to stop him returning to Earth has been started? (currently with 70,000 signatures :) )

It depends on if the supplier stock is held at an Amazon Warehouse, or if they hold stock themselves and send to Amazon who then forward the delivery.
It's the reason why only select products are available same/next day and others have a few days for delivery option.

Bibio
25-06-21, 10:21 AM
i use Amazon and a prime member (mainly for the streaming service). the fewer boxes thing is about having just one delivery instead of waiting in for multiple. if your a busy person (and have a smart phone) then use one of the locker/drop off sites.

i dont get the hate for Bezos. he made his fortune from nothing, is this not the American dream?

Bibio
25-06-21, 10:32 AM
school holidays... dont they think that they have had enough. just goes to show that its morons running the country who are hell bent on making more morons.

a good education policy is fundamental to a nations economy. without a good education policy a nation's economy will collapse....

DJ123
25-06-21, 10:49 AM
The kids have had no more Holidays than usual - they've been learning from home instead. And Teachers also need a break too.

Luckypants
25-06-21, 11:01 AM
And Teachers also need a break too.
This.

My next door neighbour is a secondary teacher and the amount of extra work she had to do to prepare video lessons, marking electronically, chasing up pupils who are not working etc etc is massive. Add to that load that teachers have to assess and recommend each pupil's GCSE grade, following some exacting rules and making sure they keep evidence for the inevitable appeals..

On top of that dealing with kids in school who think its funny to go against covid rules, cough on other people deliberately and also dealing with outbreaks in school.

They need a break.

svenrico
25-06-21, 11:29 AM
This.

My next door neighbour is a secondary teacher and the amount of extra work she had to do to prepare video lessons, marking electronically, chasing up pupils who are not working etc etc is massive. Add to that load that teachers have to assess and recommend each pupil's GCSE grade, following some exacting rules and making sure they keep evidence for the inevitable appeals..

On top of that dealing with kids in school who think its funny to go against covid rules, cough on other people deliberately and also dealing with outbreaks in school.

They need a break.

If I had been judged by teachers on GCE O levels I would probably have passed all 8 subjects instead of cocking some up in actual exams ! Exams are the real test.

svenrico
25-06-21, 11:31 AM
i dont get the hate for Bezos. he made his fortune from nothing, is this not the American dream?

I think it's the tax thing .

Seeker
25-06-21, 11:33 AM
i dont get the hate for Bezos. he made his fortune from nothing, is this not the American dream?

Doesn't pay corporate taxes
Doesn't pay workers (enough)

UK sales go via Luxembourg to avoid paying tax in UK
Amazon had sales of 44 billion Euros in Europe but paid no corporation tax
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/may/04/amazon-sales-income-europe-corporation-tax-luxembourg

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-warehouse-turnover-worker-shortage-2021-6?r=US&IR=T

Ambulance call outs every other day (2019) UK
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ambulances-for-amazon-warehouse-workers-injured-every-other-day-9qr9xmp25#:~:text=The%20most%20common%20causes%20f or,which%20there%20is%20detailed%20data.

He has made $86 billion more money since Jan 2020

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2021/04/30/american-billionaires-have-gotten-12-trillion-richer-during-the-pandemic/#:~:text=3.,Bezos'%20fortune%20since%20January%202 020.

Delivery drivers peeing into bottles because they don't have time to stop

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/mar/25/amazon-delivery-workers-bathrooms-memo#:~:text=Amazon%20caused%20an%20uproar%20on,fo r%20at%20least%20several%20months.

I think that, having made an extra $86 billion, he could afford better pay and conditions for his workers. (but I'm a lefty) :)
If he's looking to save money start with dumping Blue Origin.

Adam Ef
25-06-21, 11:50 AM
i dont get the hate for Bezos. he made his fortune from nothing, is this not the American dream?


He looks like a Bond villain. You have to hate him.

svenrico
25-06-21, 12:00 PM
He looks like a Bond villain. You have to hate him.
I think people are going to hate anybody who has made an obscene amount of money.

Bibio
25-06-21, 01:02 PM
Doesn't pay corporate taxes
Doesn't pay workers (enough)

UK sales go via Luxembourg to avoid paying tax in UK
Amazon had sales of 44 billion Euros in Europe but paid no corporation tax
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/may/04/amazon-sales-income-europe-corporation-tax-luxembourg

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-warehouse-turnover-worker-shortage-2021-6?r=US&IR=T

Ambulance call outs every other day (2019) UK
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ambulances-for-amazon-warehouse-workers-injured-every-other-day-9qr9xmp25#:~:text=The%20most%20common%20causes%20f or,which%20there%20is%20detailed%20data.

He has made $86 billion more money since Jan 2020

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2021/04/30/american-billionaires-have-gotten-12-trillion-richer-during-the-pandemic/#:~:text=3.,Bezos'%20fortune%20since%20January%202 020.

Delivery drivers peeing into bottles because they don't have time to stop

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/mar/25/amazon-delivery-workers-bathrooms-memo#:~:text=Amazon%20caused%20an%20uproar%20on,fo r%20at%20least%20several%20months.

I think that, having made an extra $86 billion, he could afford better pay and conditions for his workers. (but I'm a lefty) :)
If he's looking to save money start with dumping Blue Origin.

its not Amazon's fault if our government creates tax loopholes, go take it up with your MP.

$87 billion.. well done.

one of my son's worked at Amazon a few years back when all the hoohaa was going on about working conditions/pay etc.etc. he said the only people complaining were the lazy sods. if you dont like working there then leave and let someone who wants to do the job work there. these people should try working in a chicken egg collecting farm or working on a farm to see what real work and crap conditions are like.

if someone does not like their job then they should go find another...

btw all lorry/delivery drivers pizz into bottles, its a known fact. it has nothing to do with not getting rest stops.

Bibio
25-06-21, 01:06 PM
I think people are going to hate anybody who has made an obscene amount of money.

correct and they are usually jealous people who cant get a break in life or are bitter twisted people.

personally i'm happy for anyone who makes tons of cash and well done to them.

Seeker
25-06-21, 02:03 PM
its not Amazon's fault if our government creates tax loopholes, go take it up with your MP.

done that, multiple times. :) He says the Tories can't do anything despite some of the biggest tax havens are UK Crown dependencies.

I have no problems with Amazon making money if they paid their way and treated staff better.
This has to be tackled globally otherwise the corporations play off one country against another.
Apple, for example, has been described as a tax avoidance company that makes electronic products on the side.

daktulos
25-06-21, 02:45 PM
one of my son's worked at Amazon a few years back when all the hoohaa was going on about working conditions/pay etc.etc. he said the only people complaining were the lazy sods.

There was a segment on the BBC news a few months back about fields and fields of daffodils left unpicked because they couldn't get workers due to Brexit. Apparently they'd had a couple of British people, but they quit as it was hard work.

done that, multiple times. :) He says the Tories can't do anything despite some of the biggest tax havens are UK Crown dependencies.

In Amazon's case, it was largely Ireland giving them an illegal tax break.

Chris_SVS
25-06-21, 02:53 PM
How could it be nearly written off 3 times in 20 minutes ?! :confused:
I was surrounded by blind and incompetent van drivers, apparently.

Sir Trev
25-06-21, 03:35 PM
UK sales go via Luxembourg to avoid paying tax in UK


Every multinational in Europe does this. I've worked in finance departments for my whole career and the "owners" of the UK, French, German, etc local trading company are usually the Luxembourg entity, or Irish, and its usually way more complex than that. The local trading companies get commission for selling on behalf of the owning entity, usually less than their costs, and hence pay little or no local corporation tax. Its perfectly legal, but not especially ethical. Amazon are just doing it on a bigger scale than everyone else.

At the recent G7 meeting there was a thing about minimum corporation tax levels, but of course Luxembourg are not in the G7 and would never agree to this loss of status if they were! Our government would in all honesty struggle to do much about it, no matter which party was in power.

Dave20046
25-06-21, 05:26 PM
This.

My next door neighbour is a secondary teacher and the amount of extra work she had to do to prepare video lessons, marking electronically, chasing up pupils who are not working etc etc is massive. Add to that load that teachers have to assess and recommend each pupil's GCSE grade, following some exacting rules and making sure they keep evidence for the inevitable appeals..

On top of that dealing with kids in school who think its funny to go against covid rules, cough on other people deliberately and also dealing with outbreaks in school.

They need a break.

I think the teachers judging the grades is the most ridiculous thing. No offense to them (I'm sure many don't want to do it at all) but I would not have passed a single GCSE if that was the case - all of my predictions were F's except Geography (Which weirdly, was my weakest subject but most experienced teacher on reflection). I got 10x A* to B (and a C in Geography however I didn't hand in some coursework which counted for 30%).

Seeker
25-06-21, 07:03 PM
Every multinational in Europe does this. At the recent G7 meeting there was a thing about minimum corporation tax levels, but of course Luxembourg are not in the G7 and would never agree to this loss of status if they were!

Remember Jean-Claude Juncker? He was finance minister for Luxembourg and helped set up Luxembourg's position as a tax avoidance haven. When he became president of the European Commission he campaigned to block EU curbs on tax avoidance.

svenrico
25-06-21, 09:41 PM
correct and they are usually jealous people who cant get a break in life or are bitter twisted people.

.

not necessarily - it is the vast amount of money involved and the controversy over tax that many people are concerned about.

Seeker
01-07-21, 04:43 PM
I spoke to my friend in Arkansas yesterday - he was complaining that it was over 90°F with humidity to match. Today, I heard a click in the kitchen - it was the central heating thermostat demanding heat. It comes on at 67°F.

It reached 121°F in Lytton Canada this week which is situated at 50.233°N, St Ives Cornwall is situated at 50.208°N.

I just want a bit of warmth, it's July!
I think it's time we drained the North Sea, I'm tired of the drizzle, clouds, cold winds.

CheGuevara
01-07-21, 05:35 PM
It reached 121°F in Lytton Canada this week which is situated at 50.233°N, St Ives Cornwall is situated at 50.208°N.



My parents are on the south BC coast. My mom said by 4am it had only dropped to just shy of 30c. I think Lytton (hit 49.6c I think) is now being evacuated for forest fires (BC interior is pretty dry anyhow in summer) - there will likely be plenty more to come (there always is), especially if lighting storms follow. No doubt a lot of people will lose homes this summer. Over 200 people have died from heat in BC.

I wouldn't mind warmer weather, but I wouldn't trade places.

CheGuevara
01-07-21, 06:43 PM
Also, Happy Canada Day.

My wife has been hearing from an old friend who grew up in the aboriginal community in Lytton - sounds like it's pretty much gone.

Apparently people had 15 mins notice to leave.

Edit: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57678054

Cool weather doesn't seem so bad.

Bibio
02-07-21, 09:24 AM
why are all work jeans knee pad pockets more like shin guard pockets?

admin
02-07-21, 09:47 AM
why are all work jeans knee pad pockets more like shin guard pockets?Your legs are a non standard size?

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Bibio
02-07-21, 09:53 AM
no they are not but its not just me. a few of the mates have the exact same problem.

admin
02-07-21, 09:55 AM
no they are not but its not just me. a few of the mates have the exact same problem.I was only kidding. I find the pad pockets are too wide and the pad ends up on the side of your legs.

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Adam Ef
02-07-21, 05:17 PM
Decided to give myself a day off from cycling to work today. Traffic chaos everywhere. The council has decided to close and loose dress all the roads leading into Bristol, which if that isn't bad enough on it's own.... every driver on the road was trying to use the back lanes and getting stuck bumper to bumper with other oncoming cars. No one leaving any space for me to get through on the DRZ and some actively blocking me from pulling out or filtering. Why are people such ignorant selfish tw4ts?


Back to cycling on the nice quiet 9 miles of cycle track through the trees tomorrow, blissfully away from the hoards of morons.

Seeker
02-07-21, 05:29 PM
Whilst I've been off riding because of pandemic and broken wrist - Lincolnshire council have dropped the speed limits on many of my favourite "A" roads from 60 to 50.

svenrico
03-07-21, 12:01 AM
why are all work jeans knee pad pockets more like shin guard pockets?
I find the same with motorcycle trousers.

svenrico
03-07-21, 12:07 AM
I was only kidding. I find the pad pockets are too wide and the pad ends up on the side of your legs.

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I find the actual pockets are not too wide but the pockets in the loose mesh lining means the pads just aren't held securely over the knee and can move sideways.

svenrico
03-07-21, 12:12 AM
Also, Happy Canada Day.

My wife has been hearing from an old friend who grew up in the aboriginal community in Lytton - sounds like it's pretty much gone.

Apparently people had 15 mins notice to leave.

Edit: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57678054

Cool weather doesn't seem so bad.
I see on news today that they have been pulling down statues of Queen Elizabeth and Queen Victoria due to some past injustice done to children in Roman Catholic run schools in Canada ! Didn't catch all the details.

Bibio
03-07-21, 09:48 AM
I see on news today that they have been pulling down statues of Queen Elizabeth and Queen Victoria due to some past injustice done to children in Roman Catholic run schools in Canada ! Didn't catch all the details.
MORONS..... do they not know that Elizabeth and Victoria were Protestants.. unless its lizzy the II then this happened hundreds of years ago when children were used as slave labour so you can blame everyone.

these people need to get a furkin grip.

SV650rules
03-07-21, 10:06 AM
MORONS..... do they not know that Elizabeth and Victoria were Protestants.. unless its lizzy the II then this happened hundreds of years ago when children were used as slave labour so you can blame everyone.

these people need to get a furkin grip.


Absolutely, Roman Catholic schools all over the world have mistreated kids put into their care for centuries, nothing to do with Empire and Royal Family. These protestors are first class muppets with no grasp of history, but very loud and so sure of themselves and 'their truth'. Twitter is an internet playground for idiots....

Dave20046
03-07-21, 10:58 AM
MORONS..... do they not know that Elizabeth and Victoria were Protestants.. unless its lizzy the II then this happened hundreds of years ago when children were used as slave labour so you can blame everyone.

these people need to get a furkin grip.
I had this conversation with someone, it's because she led the government at the time and the government found it a convenient solution to first nation people. Very much doubt she knew what was happening and sanctioned it but hey ho.

Dave20046
03-07-21, 11:00 AM
Whilst I've been off riding because of pandemic and broken wrist - Lincolnshire council have dropped the speed limits on many of my favourite "A" roads from 60 to 50.

They did that in the peak district about 10 years ago, MAG ran a report that said it lead to no reduction in KSI rates (they may have changed by now, but how do you attribute it to the speedlimit and not other progressions in safety this far on). I spoke to (bike) cop and he said treat them the same as NSL.