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They did that in the peak district about 10 years ago, MAG ran a report that said it lead to no reduction in KSI rates (they may have changed by now, but how do you attribute it to the speedlimit and not other progressions in safety this far on). I spoke to (bike) cop and he said treat them the same as NSL.
That's the same as i treat them. Lots of roads i ride around the Surrey Hills and Oxfordshire got reduced speed limits after the Olympics/Tour De France came through the area. There is no more Cyclists than before, for which i think was the reason for the reduction in the limit.
the reduction in speed limits is not about safety its about bringing in electric vehicles. the slower they go the further they go so less charging. its also kinder to the road surface so less works will need done. think about it.. most cars are around a ton in weight but leccy cars are about two ton.
also if the speed has been reduced just outside a town limit its an indication that building works will start there in a few years. thats whats happening around my neck of the woods.
Whilst I've been off riding because of pandemic and broken wrist - Lincolnshire council have dropped the speed limits on many of my favourite "A" roads from 60 to 50.
Warwickshire's been like this for years. I often came across roads where you'd be limited to 50 in Warwickshire but all of a sudden it became NSL but also same type of road - oh, we've crossed into Oxfordshire or Leicestershire!
Also, it was noticeable that many of the narrower, windier but minor roads remained as NSL but the 'main' roads were the ones that were reduced. As a 2-wheeler (cyclist or motorcyclist) the hazards were obviously worse for an individual but I guess the volumes of traffic are what they were paying attention to.
Hard to buy in to road safety argument when it's so arbitrary.
What annoys me now is that lots of numptys are so psychologically programmed that they can't seem to manage above 50 on clear NSL stretches that remain.
svenrico
03-07-21, 03:39 PM
Whilst I've been off riding because of pandemic and broken wrist - Lincolnshire council have dropped the speed limits on many of my favourite "A" roads from 60 to 50.
barstards. thin end of the wedge. they'll be trying to put a 50 mph limit on all country roads next.
svenrico
03-07-21, 03:45 PM
I had this conversation with someone, it's because she led the government at the time and the government found it a convenient solution to first nation people. Very much doubt she knew what was happening and sanctioned it but hey ho.
There seems to be a lot of requests for apologies for historical events ,usually expecting England to apologise of course !!!
shiftin_gear98
08-07-21, 01:43 PM
Today could be about to suck.
My youngest has just been sent home from school with a temperature and told she needs a PCR test.
My wife is taking her now.
I really hope it's negative. My middle son is supposed to be going on his year 7 residential next week.
I'll be gutted for him if he has to miss it.
I'd happily have 10 days off work. But I'd rather not for his sake.
Today could be about to suck.
My youngest has just been sent home from school with a temperature and told she needs a PCR test.
My wife is taking her now.
I really hope it's negative. My middle son is supposed to be going on his year 7 residential next week.
I'll be gutted for him if he has to miss it.
I'd happily have 10 days off work. But I'd rather not for his sake.My son contracted covid last Thursday. I took him to the test centre and the result came back positive. So 10 days in jail for us missing our daughters birthday and our anniversary meal. My wife and I took a postal PCR test on Monday and I've come back positive which came as no surprise as I've been feeling really rough despite being double jabbed so even longer in jail.
On the plus side my son, who's 23, is recovering well and it was no worse than regular flu although he's still a bit breathless. He was due to get his first jab on the day he fell ill.
In my case it's just like a bad cold, runny nose, streaming eyes and a slight temperature, nothing some paracetamol couldn't fix. I hate to think what it could have been like without the vaccination.
Best of luck to you and yours. I dread to think what's it's going to be like after the 19th.
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shiftin_gear98
08-07-21, 02:38 PM
Missing your daughters wedding, that sucks big time.
I hope you all recover quickly.
Missing your daughters wedding, that sucks big time.
I hope you all recover quickly.Typo. Meant to say birthday. Clearly my brain has been affected too.
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Getting an eBay order cancelled at 4pm, after i placed it yesterday, telling me they have no stock. By which point no other places are able to ship because as they've already had the couriers come & go.
That's properly stuck in a spanner in my weekend plans, unless Royal Mail are actually delivering properly again . . . .
Craig380
08-07-21, 06:13 PM
Hope you all get well soon, John.
Sir Trev
08-07-21, 07:12 PM
GWS John. Sucks contracting it after being jabbed but I have a feeling it will be the same for a lot of people when everyone thinks they can do what they like after the 19th.
garynortheast
08-07-21, 07:24 PM
Bugger, hope you and all yours have a speedy recovery John.
Martin, fingers crossed the test is a negative result.
I think this merits more than just a casual "gripe of the day".
I hope it all clears up quickly for you and yours.
svenrico
08-07-21, 09:57 PM
GWS John. Sucks contracting it after being jabbed but I have a feeling it will be the same for a lot of people when everyone thinks they can do what they like after the 19th.
Best wishes to anybody who gets Covid ,and yes, abandoning all precautions after 19th is a recipe for disaster. Of course all restrictions can't go on indefinitely but some could carry on such as wearing masks in some public places such as buses, trains, having hand sanitiser in shops and cafes etc ,as examples.
People have a choice whether to go into places such as pubs etc but should still be protected in public places where they are obliged to go.
svenrico
08-07-21, 10:27 PM
Newly surfaced road with loads of loose gravel,20mph max speed signs, slowed down but still riding at about 28mph near to centre of road to avoid riding in thick strip of gravel ,see car coming up behind ,doesn't slow down and passes me close so I give a good blast on horn. He just accelerates away giving some hand gesture for good measure. Ignorant ,inconsiderate barstard.
I'm still alive, thank you all for your concern. I can finally spend more than 10 minutes away from a box of tissues.
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CheGuevara
09-07-21, 12:52 PM
I see on news today that they have been pulling down statues of Queen Elizabeth and Queen Victoria due to some past injustice done to children in Roman Catholic run schools in Canada ! Didn't catch all the details.
MORONS..... do they not know that Elizabeth and Victoria were Protestants.. unless its lizzy the II then this happened hundreds of years ago when children were used as slave labour so you can blame everyone.
these people need to get a furkin grip.
Absolutely, Roman Catholic schools all over the world have mistreated kids put into their care for centuries, nothing to do with Empire and Royal Family. These protestors are first class muppets with no grasp of history, but very loud and so sure of themselves and 'their truth'. Twitter is an internet playground for idiots....
I think it was more than just the Catholic church involved with the residential schools. Christian churches would probably be a more accurate representation (though I think maybe the schools that made the news recently happened to be Catholic). This ran from the early 1800's, up until the late 1990s.
There is absolutely no question about the impact the residential school system (and numerous other wide-spread injustices, both historical and recent) had, and continues to have, on Canadian aboriginal communities (my wife can attest to that, having worked in/with those communities). It was a conscious effort to wipe out an entire collection of cultures, languages, and identity.
I don't necessarily agree with tearing down statues (though I can't say I'd miss them a lot either), but I absolutely wouldn't deny these communities their right to be angry/outraged by these most recent revelations, and deeply offended by any symbols representing the people responsible, or colonialism in general. I certainly wouldn't characterise them as muppets, idiots, or needing to get a grip.
Walk a mile in someone else's shoes...
garynortheast
09-07-21, 01:31 PM
I think it was more than just the Catholic church involved with the residential schools. Christian churches would probably be a more accurate representation (though I think maybe the schools that made the news recently happened to be Catholic). This ran from the early 1800's, up until the late 1990s.
There is absolutely no question about the impact the residential school system (and numerous other wide-spread injustices, both historical and recent) had, and continues to have, on Canadian aboriginal communities (my wife can attest to that, having worked in/with those communities). It was a conscious effort to wipe out an entire collection of cultures, languages, and identity.
I don't necessarily agree with tearing down statues (though I can't say I'd miss them a lot either), but I absolutely wouldn't deny these communities their right to be angry/outraged by these most recent revelations, and deeply offended by any symbols representing the people responsible, or colonialism in general. I certainly wouldn't characterise them as muppets, idiots, or needing to get a grip.
Walk a mile in someone else's shoes...
Absolutely, well said.
SV650rules
09-07-21, 01:50 PM
All this 'first people' thing has one big flaw. Many generations of tribes invaded other tribes and enslaved them before Britain went anywhere near those countries. As for slavery, the Africans and Arabs started it, the Africans took slaves from other tribes long before white men became involved. Millions of Europeans were enslaved by Arabs and Barbary Corsairs in the Mediterranean, they even raided UK coast to take slaves, when are their countries going to recompense UK families for their taken people.
https://eutoday.net/news/security-defence/2021/white-gold-1-25-million-european-slaves-erased-from-memory
All this 'first people' thing has one big flaw. Many generations of tribes invaded other tribes and enslaved them before Britain went anywhere near those countries. As for slavery, the Africans and Arabs started it, the Africans took slaves from other tribes long before white men became involved. Millions of Europeans were enslaved by Arabs and Barbary Corsairs in the Mediterranean, they even raided UK coast to take slaves, when are their countries going to recompense UK families for their taken people.
https://eutoday.net/news/security-defence/2021/white-gold-1-25-million-european-slaves-erased-from-memory
dont forget that Britain was enslaved for hundreds of years by the Romans. do British people go pulling down statues of Roman emperors or moaning that it happened.... oohh wait didn't the Danes (Cnut The Great) rule Britain at one point as well enslaving and killing indigenous people.
dont forget the great Ottoman empire who killed and enslaves millions.
its the 21st century folks :rolleyes:
i was at a party the other night there and someone was complaining about people getting their hands chopped off in Islamic/Arabic country's and i said 'good maybe they should adopt that here and there would be less crime' the look on peoples faces was priceless...
CheGuevara
09-07-21, 03:40 PM
I think the difference, at least with respect to the situation in Canada, is that these issues aren't ancient history. Victims/survivors of the residential school system are alive today, some younger than me (and I don't consider myself old). There are probably few Canadian aboriginal families today who haven't been directly impacted by this an other similar policies. It's much more than a vague notion of something that happened hundreds of years ago.
As a Canadian, I think I can say with reasonable certainty that most of us (even since my parent's generation), would consider Canada a fair, just, inclusive and progressive country, largely unencumbered by historical issues (for lack of a better word), classism, and without the broad (or at least open) racism seen in the US. I think most Canadians take pride in how (we believe, at least) Canada is perceived as a nation in the world.
That this has happened (as well as certain other issues that have come to light recently) within our lifetimes, and gone largely unnoticed, or ignored, will be a source of shame and embarrassment. On the other hand, I think it's an opportunity (and one that Canada can rise to) to accept responsibility, start healing the rift, and support our fellow Canadians in reclaiming their language and culture, and building pride and prosperity (in whatever form they might choose) in their communities.
The past cannot be changed ... fact! No current living member on this planet is responsible in any way for what happened prior to their birth.
If as much effort was put into building a positive future as is put into trying to eradicate the past ... we might just get somewhere.
SV650rules
09-07-21, 08:05 PM
The past cannot be changed ... fact! No current living member on this planet is responsible in any way for what happened prior to their birth.
If as much effort was put into building a positive future as is put into trying to eradicate the past ... we might just get somewhere.
Well said..
Adam Ef
10-07-21, 10:09 AM
Rare Saturday off work. Has anyone seen summer anywhere?
garynortheast
10-07-21, 11:19 AM
Rare Saturday off work. Has anyone seen summer anywhere?
We have it here and we're keeping it. There's not enough for anyone else so you'll all have to put up with the rain and cold.
svenrico
10-07-21, 11:26 AM
All this 'first people' thing has one big flaw. Many generations of tribes invaded other tribes and enslaved them before Britain went anywhere near those countries. As for slavery, the Africans and Arabs started it, the Africans took slaves from other tribes long before white men became involved. Millions of Europeans were enslaved by Arabs and Barbary Corsairs in the Mediterranean, they even raided UK coast to take slaves, when are their countries going to recompense UK families for their taken people.
https://eutoday.net/news/security-defence/2021/white-gold-1-25-million-european-slaves-erased-from-memory
Well said.
svenrico
10-07-21, 11:36 AM
dont forget that Britain was enslaved for hundreds of years by the Romans. do British people go pulling down statues of Roman emperors or moaning that it happened.... oohh wait didn't the Danes (Cnut The Great) rule Britain at one point as well enslaving and killing indigenous people.
dont forget the great Ottoman empire who killed and enslaves millions.
its the 21st century folks :rolleyes:
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Romans, Anglo Saxons, Vikings, Normans - we are a mixture of all sorts in this country.
SV650rules
10-07-21, 11:46 AM
Romans, Anglo Saxons, Vikings, Normans - we are a mixture of all sorts in this country.
It was also the British who abolished slavery first, and spent an absolute fortune with the Navy blockading slave ports on west coast of Africa ( IIRC 10 years ) to make sure no slaves got shipped anywhere. British and Dutch navy also devastated the Barbary pirates - making Europe and UK safe from them.
maviczap
10-07-21, 05:04 PM
We have it here and we're keeping it. There's not enough for anyone else so you'll all have to put up with the rain and cold.
Please don't be so selfish, my cycling tan lines need topping up
Rare Saturday off work. Has anyone seen summer anywhere?
Cleethorpes:
6am: fog
7:30am rain
9am back to fog
10am-13:00 dull (fog lifted)
14:30 bright
15:30 sunny
18:41 still sunny
garynortheast
10-07-21, 07:06 PM
Please don't be so selfish, my cycling tan lines need topping up
Nope sorry, not enough for anyone else. It's all mine I tell you
the minefield that is the new import fees... looks like there is NO low limit on VAT so EVERYTHING you buy from other country's is subject to VAT, this used to be £15. if you buy from outwith the 'partner' nations you will have to pay the VAT yourself... hmm, this might be subject to postal fees and you will have to wait till you get a bill through the door to pay your VAT.
thanks Brexiteers...........
Sir Trev
11-07-21, 12:31 PM
Not allowed to sit on bikes in showrooms... Some dealers may be more sensible but the one I stopped in was having none of it. And they didn't have the model I was interested in trying for size.
daktulos
11-07-21, 07:57 PM
Not allowed to sit on bikes in showrooms... Some dealers may be more sensible but the one I stopped in was having none of it. And they didn't have the model I was interested in trying for size.
My local dealer has a sign on all the bikes - you turn it around when you've sat on it, and someone comes to clean it and turns the sign back round again. So simple, and they've been doing that since they opened last summer.
It's almost as if some dealers are using Covid as an excuse for doing less work - hopefully people will get the message and just go elsewhere.
SV650rules
11-07-21, 08:13 PM
My local dealer has a sign on all the bikes - you turn it around when you've sat on it, and someone comes to clean it and turns the sign back round again.
Where is this dealer, I will make a sign and park my bike there with the sign turned round, then get bike cleaned for free....good plan Eh!
svenrico
12-07-21, 01:52 PM
the minefield that is the new import fees... looks like there is NO low limit on VAT so EVERYTHING you buy from other country's is subject to VAT, this used to be £15. if you buy from outwith the 'partner' nations you will have to pay the VAT yourself... hmm, this might be subject to postal fees and you will have to wait till you get a bill through the door to pay your VAT.
thanks Brexiteers...........
Yes, I don't remember anybody mentioning that before the referendum!!!
There seem to be an awful lot of disadvantages coming to light about this 'take back control etc, etc ' Brexit situation ! I voted remain but accepted the result, but I still don't see - no ,stop it ,it's a motorcycle forum.
svenrico
12-07-21, 02:00 PM
Not allowed to sit on bikes in showrooms... Some dealers may be more sensible but the one I stopped in was having none of it. And they didn't have the model I was interested in trying for size.
There is a problem with supply, I wanted to try a Honda CMX1100 but my dealer doesn't have one.
If the dealer won't at least let you sit on a bike to get some idea of the fit ,go elsewhere. I can understand a dealer not allowing a test ride until they had some idea you were likely to buy, but funnily enough my local Triumph dealer wanted me to have a test ride to make sure it was the bike I wanted before they would give me a part exchange offer.
ethariel
12-07-21, 02:13 PM
The import fees are all screwed up simply because the Government is lazy.
Instead of sticking with the old rules where goods come into the country and the 'Import Dues' are worked out and you settle before delivery, they have set it us so the seller has to register with the UK and with a UK bank to pay the VAT thats included in the price you pay, and the slightly lesser import taxes are thn applied as before.
The issue is that a ;lot of overseas sellers cant be arsed to register and set up banking to pay the VAT owed to the Treasury as its a huge hassle for a small form.
hence the sellers of a lot of niche bike bits are no longer selling to UK and if they dont have distro in UK/Europe yer fecked.
svenrico
12-07-21, 02:17 PM
The import fees are all screwed up simply because the Government is lazy.
Instead of sticking with the old rules where goods come into the country and the 'Import Dues' are worked out and you settle before delivery, they have set it us so the seller has to register with the UK and with a UK bank to pay the VAT thats included in the price you pay, and the slightly lesser import taxes are thn applied as before.
The issue is that a ;lot of overseas sellers cant be arsed to register and set up banking to pay the VAT owed to the Treasury as its a huge hassle for a small form.
hence the sellers of a lot of niche bike bits are no longer selling to UK and if they dont have distro in UK/Europe yer fecked.
Nothing to do with Brexit then ?!
ethariel
12-07-21, 02:49 PM
Nothing to do with Brexit then ?!
Change of rules following Brexit.
And the whole Brexit thing has been done to death, at the end of the day we live in a democracy and the Majority chose to leave so that's that (democracy has it's faults but it's better than living in anarchy or a police state or a dictatorship where people vanish in the middle of the night never to be seen again imho)
svenrico
12-07-21, 03:06 PM
Change of rules following Brexit.
And the whole Brexit thing has been done to death, at the end of the day we live in a democracy and the Majority chose to leave so that's that (democracy has it's faults but it's better than living in anarchy or a police state or a dictatorship where people vanish in the middle of the night never to be seen again imho)
We are still finding out the effects of Brexit (or the c*ck ups the government is making of it !) and it has nothing to do with anarchy or living in a police state.
Whatever way you feel about it, we are still allowed to comment.
svenrico
12-07-21, 03:33 PM
Italian player not being given red card for diabolical foul on Grealish.
ethariel
12-07-21, 04:00 PM
Always happy to talk about brexit.
Sir Trev
12-07-21, 06:44 PM
It's almost as if some dealers are using Covid as an excuse for doing less work - hopefully people will get the message and just go elsewhere.
This is very true, and not limited to bikes. With the culls that all manufacturers have had over the last ten years I have to travel at least 20 miles to find a Honda dealer, and then they're sniffy...
Bit like a disappointing trip to my local garden machinery store on Saturday. Local indie shop, pukka kit, where the forestry trade go, good service. Usually. Right now they're closed on Saturdays until further notice "due to covid". Rubbish! They have a huge showroom with no distancing issues at all, and half the site is outdoors. If they open five days a week they can still do Saturday mornings for those of us that actually, you know, have a job!
svenrico
12-07-21, 10:31 PM
This is very true, and not limited to bikes. With the culls that all manufacturers have had over the last ten years I have to travel at least 20 miles to find a Honda dealer, and then they're sniffy...
Bit like a disappointing trip to my local garden machinery store on Saturday. Local indie shop, pukka kit, where the forestry trade go, good service. Usually. Right now they're closed on Saturdays until further notice "due to covid". Rubbish! They have a huge showroom with no distancing issues at all, and half the site is outdoors. If they open five days a week they can still do Saturday mornings for those of us that actually, you know, have a job!
I was surprised by the number of cafes, apart from fish and chip shops, still closed at the coast, Whitby in particular.
Going to motorbike shop that I’d taken my sons Chinese piece of crap to a month ago for other work, told he could look at it this week, load bike in van, take it to bike shop, unload bike, told he won’t work on it because it’s Chinese!
Guess the 850GS, the SV, the Tiger 800 or the VFR400 won’t be going back there!
svenrico
14-07-21, 10:23 PM
Going to motorbike shop that I’d taken my sons Chinese piece of crap to a month ago for other work, told he could look at it this week, load bike in van, take it to bike shop, unload bike, told he won’t work on it because it’s Chinese!
Guess the 850GS, the SV, the Tiger 800 or the VFR400 won’t be going back there!
Can you say what Chinese make it is ? A lot of things are now made in China of course, aren't Benelli now Chinese for example?
Can you say what Chinese make it is ? A lot of things are now made in China of course, aren't Benelli now Chinese for example?
Yeh Benelli are Chinese. Some triumphs and even BMW’s are made in China too apparently. The bike is a Sinnis. They are based in Portslade, not a million miles away from wemoto. Which is handy as both on my doorstep. The bike is based on a Yamaha ybr, and is very similar. The previous owner has even changed the stock exhaust for a ybr one. It’s not a bad bike really, certainly better to ride than the Yamaha 125 I did my cbt on but that was 20 years ago! Nuts and bolts like to fall out, they are not put together particularly well, but if you go round them with a bit of thread lock and keep them maintained they are ok for the price.
My problem was the clutch cable, it had frayed and wouldn’t work so got a new cable direct from sinnis but couldn’t get it to adjust up. Previous owner had bodged the old one. New one had correct part number printed on the outer sheath. Bloke I took it to a month ago suddenly decided he won’t work on Chinese bikes. Luckily there is another bike place half a mile down the road. Took it straight there and they took it straight in and on the bench. They said the cable is too long and they didn’t have a solderless nipple to shorten it.
I have a bike shop 50yds from my doorstep but he won’t work on anything that isn’t Italian. He’s happy to look and give me guidance but won’t touch it, and gave me a solderless nipple for the cable, so I had it fixed in half hour.
Neither these last two bike shops charged me for their time.
Just a bit miffed that the first bloke had worked on and knew the bike, I’d told him what the problem was and he said he wouldn’t be able to look at it until Tuesday, so on the Tuesday I load the van up and take it there and he wouldn’t do the work.
Yeh Benelli* are Chinese. Some triumphs** and even BMW’s*** are made in China too apparently
* correct: owned by Geely (Volvo, London black cabs and many more)
**Thailand - 3 factories.
*** engines and some engine parts. Also have plants in Brazil, Thailand and India
CheGuevara
16-07-21, 12:11 PM
Thrips (aka storm/thunder flies etc). We back on to farmland so there's always 1 or 2 days a year where we get swarmed. Any open window and they're all over your house in the thousands, crawling on you and making you itch, getting into photo frames and lcd screens...
Today is that day.
svenrico
17-07-21, 12:51 PM
Drivers throwing burning cigarette ends out of car windows. Was following car yesterday when driver with arm hanging out of window threw burning fag out in front of me, blew my horn and flashed headlight at him. Overtook him and went on my way. Few miles further on stopped at filling station and his car had pulled up in front of me .
Noticed he was staring at me as he was waiting to pay. Was going to say something to him when he came out but decided to leave it, but it annoyed me. Funnily enough part of his reg number was PUF.
Sir Trev
17-07-21, 04:25 PM
Was going to say something to him when he came out but decided to leave it, but it annoyed me.
Typical selfish **** who does not care about the consequences of his actions. Its a modern day epidemic. If you'd tried to explain he would almost certainly have gone on the defensive as people like that think they're never wrong. Like the nob that nearly hit me on a roundabout today - only saw me when I hooted, stopping just in time, but hooted and flashed and gestured at me for the next half mile as if I'd insulted his wife and eaten his kids...
svenrico
17-07-21, 05:36 PM
Typical selfish **** who does not care about the consequences of his actions. Its a modern day epidemic. If you'd tried to explain he would almost certainly have gone on the defensive as people like that think they're never wrong. Like the nob that nearly hit me on a roundabout today - only saw me when I hooted, stopping just in time, but hooted and flashed and gestured at me for the next half mile as if I'd insulted his wife and eaten his kids...
I was more bothered about him turning awkward and aggressive if I said anything ,because he was a lot younger than me and would probably have taken anything I said as an invitation to fight !!!
Ants!
As I wade through the conservatory battlefield carnage, knee deep* in ants I survey the scene and ponder what the day will bring. It's been 2 long days, just me, the ant powder and ant poison spray versus millions* of creatures from the depths of the Earth. They shall not pass!**
* note: hyperbole
** note: apologies to Lord of the Rings
SV650rules
18-07-21, 07:15 AM
Ants!
As I wade through the conservatory battlefield carnage, knee deep* in ants I survey the scene and ponder what the day will bring. It's been 2 long days, just me, the ant powder and ant poison spray versus millions* of creatures from the depths of the Earth. They shall not pass!**
* note: hyperbole
** note: apologies to Lord of the Rings
This is what you need - only thing that seems to work... ( never tried it on orcs though, never had any in our garden ) 'one thing to kill them all and in the darkness hide them' ( ants that is )
https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/product/home-defence-ant-stop!-granules-300g
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274824593158?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=7101533165274578&mkcid=2&itemid=274824593158&targetid=4585169652812021&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=412354547&mkgroupid=1305120599331881&rlsatarget=pla-4585169652812021&abcId=9300541&merchantid=87779&msclkid=cee80d87b60512c74b9d6d74627c567b
Drivers throwing burning cigarette ends out of car windows. Was following car yesterday when driver with arm hanging out of window threw burning fag out in front of me, blew my horn and flashed headlight at him. Overtook him and went on my way. Few miles further on stopped at filling station and his car had pulled up in front of me .
Noticed he was staring at me as he was waiting to pay. Was going to say something to him when he came out but decided to leave it, but it annoyed me. Funnily enough part of his reg number was PUF.
its not the drivers fault when car manufacturers have stopped putting ashtrays in their cars. as far as i know not against the law to smoke in your car even while driving. so what is the driver supposed to do?
garynortheast
18-07-21, 02:41 PM
its not the drivers fault when car manufacturers have stopped putting ashtrays in their cars. as far as i know not against the law to smoke in your car even while driving. so what is the driver supposed to do?
I'd say the driver should carry a suitable container with them, rather than littering.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/cigarettes-story-of-plastic
Yep, take your rubbish home. Not fun getting a fag butt in your face.
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I'd say the driver should carry a suitable container with them, rather than littering.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/cigarettes-story-of-plastic
people need to get their fact right before they go spouting crap to the public. although fag ends are a plastic they are what is called a bioplastic its cellulose e.g. pulp... ermm paper/hemp/cotton etc.etc and acetate. its pretty bio friendly.
never done the party trick with girls when you were younger with nail polish and fag ends?
anyway i still say dont blame the driver.
yes it is bad throwing them out a car window but blame the manufacturers wanting to save a few pennies and largely society in general.
could have been worse someone could have taken you out at a junction with lack of driving skill and observation.
ooohh and try getting a macy'd milkshake thrown out a van window full of gypo's.....
could also have been a bird flying into you...
a fag but is the least of your worries.. i've had it a few times and no worse than a big moth or bumblebee....
yes some people are azzholes... that life.
SV650rules
18-07-21, 03:25 PM
its not the drivers fault when car manufacturers have stopped putting ashtrays in their cars. as far as i know not against the law to smoke in your car even while driving. so what is the driver supposed to do?
Some company car drivers wanted a new car when ashtray was full --- Ashtrays are great for keeping parking change in, and those cigarette lighter plug things are great for powering all sorts of things. We have a lot to thank smokers for :p
Adam Ef
18-07-21, 05:50 PM
its not the drivers fault when car manufacturers have stopped putting ashtrays in their cars. as far as i know not against the law to smoke in your car even while driving. so what is the driver supposed to do?
I just keep my own ashtray on the dash, next to my pint.
* I don't smoke or drink.
How have you got so far in life without drinking? It should only be 3 days before you perish . . .
svenrico
18-07-21, 09:47 PM
its not the drivers fault when car manufacturers have stopped putting ashtrays in their cars. as far as i know not against the law to smoke in your car even while driving. so what is the driver supposed to do?
Not throw a lit fag end out of the window in front of a following motorcyclist, and don't smoke while driving, it isn't safe. I smoked for years and once dropped a lit cigarette into my lap, which is awkward trying to retrieve it, to say the least ,when you are travelling along in a car!
svenrico
18-07-21, 09:55 PM
people need to get their fact right before they go spouting crap to the public. although fag ends are a plastic they are what is called a bioplastic its cellulose e.g. pulp... ermm paper/hemp/cotton etc.etc and acetate. its pretty bio friendly.
never done the party trick with girls when you were younger with nail polish and fag ends? No
anyway i still say dont blame the driver. Why ?!
yes it is bad throwing them out a car window So you agree then that it is bad but blame the manufacturers wanting to save a few pennies and largely society in general. Why blame society
could have been worse someone could have taken you out at a junction with lack of driving skill and observation.
ooohh and try getting a macy'd milkshake thrown out a van window full of gypo's.....
could also have been a bird flying into you...Or a cruise missile I suppose if I was really unlucky !
a fag but is the least of your worries.. i've had it a few times and no worse than a big moth or bumblebee.... But at least bees aren't alight !
yes some people are azzholes... that life. comments above in bold letters to distinguish from original message.
svenrico
18-07-21, 09:59 PM
Yep, take your rubbish home. Not fun getting a fag butt in your face.
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Well said.
Luckypants
19-07-21, 09:22 AM
I have some sympathy with Bibio's point of car manufacturers not providing ashtrays and making money by charging for 'smokers pack ££££££'.
BUT! Aside from the littering aspect throwing lit fags ends from a car is a massive fire hazard. Grass verges are tinder dry and have been for weeks, a lit fag end could start a fire in the verge, which spreads to the hedge, which spreads to.... Bloody irresponsible to throw a source of ignition out of any vehicle.
SV650rules
19-07-21, 11:16 AM
I have some sympathy with Bibio's point of car manufacturers not providing ashtrays and making money by charging for 'smokers pack ££££££'.
BUT! Aside from the littering aspect throwing lit fags ends from a car is a massive fire hazard. Grass verges are tinder dry and have been for weeks, a lit fag end could start a fire in the verge, which spreads to the hedge, which spreads to.... Bloody irresponsible to throw a source of ignition out of any vehicle.
People chuck bottles out of cars as well, the glass can act as a magnifying lens and cause fires, anything thrown out or dumped from vehicles says a lot about the people inside.
svenrico
19-07-21, 11:42 AM
BUT! Aside from the littering aspect throwing lit fags ends from a car is a massive fire hazard. Grass verges are tinder dry and have been for weeks, a lit fag end could start a fire in the verge, which spreads to the hedge, which spreads to.... Bloody irresponsible to throw a source of ignition out of any vehicle.
Exactly, and particularly relevant in the North York Moors area at this time.
SV650rules
19-07-21, 11:53 AM
Exactly, and particularly relevant in the North York Moors area at this time.
Idiot people thinking it is a good idea to have a camp fire or disposable barbecue while sitting in tinder dry grass and heather are probably responsible for a great many fires, and most of the fires are started deliberately by 455 holes... If they had an IQ test the result would come back negative... ( we were living in Sydney during the big fires in 1994, NSW fire service said pretty much every fire was started deliberately, Yup, all those thousands of square miles of tinder dry gum trees and someone thinks its a good idea to set a match to it ). The greenies don't help either they stopped fire service burning off excess fuel during cooler months when it could be controlled so come the next fire in summer there was a whole lot of tinder dry fuel lying around just waiting for a spark, the big fires are not global warming they are numpty eco warriors.
.....Not fun getting a fag butt in your face....
It's phrases like this which amuse our USA cousins....... ;)
SV650rules
19-07-21, 02:27 PM
It's phrases like this which amuse our USA cousins....... ;)
When I was in design office we had some American customers come over to UK to visit us. Smoking was banned in the building, but people could smoke in carpark. When one of the Americans headed for the door his mate asked where he was going, he said with a straight face 'just going to carpark to suck on a fag'....
svenrico
19-07-21, 06:29 PM
It's phrases like this which amuse our USA cousins....... ;)
just got this :lol:
Throwing lit ciggies out the car window is just irresponsible imo, the potential fire hazard is probably the most concerning especially this time of year where everything is bone dry. If you get caught doing it in Spain... instant €1000 euro fine plus b&b... courtesy of the Spanish plod.
If you must smoke in the car get one of those car specific safety ashtray thingymabobs. I've seen them in the States but don't know where you would get one over here. Halfords may sell them .... they love to offload piles of useless c@$p that no-one wants or needs!
i have never even given milk content a thought before until i read the label today.
5g yes a teaspoon full of sugar in every 100ml :smt120
so in a pint of milk there is roughly 25.5g or 5.5 teaspoons of sugar. most beers have less sugar.
so my diabetes nurse says to cut down on the beer intake but has never ever mentioned milk.
i have never even given milk content a thought before until i read the label today.
5g yes a teaspoon full of sugar in every 100ml :smt120
so in a pint of milk there is roughly 25.5g or 5.5 teaspoons of sugar. most beers have less sugar.
so my diabetes nurse says to cut down on the beer intake but has never ever mentioned milk.
that would be lactose, in biochemistry the "ose" signifies a sugar: sucrose, fructose, dextrose, glucose. If you're going to cut out milk you will need to find another source of calcium.
New GOTD: In a management meeting at work discussing resourcing of work throughout the team, trying to share out too may projects, to hear the senior manager declare "we've just go to accept that we'll all be under pressure because of the workload".
No, how about the company accept we are under resourced for what it wants us to do and lift the recruitment freeze or reduce the job requirements! Why is it our problem that they have defined our job role/procedure/activities yet somehow it's our fault when we tell them we're not set up to cope with a significant, enduring overload situation?
So we'll end up taking too much on, not be able to deliver it all to expectations (no overtime), get routine grief about progress from now on and then get "partially achieved" at end of year performance review. Good job no-one's thinking there'll be bonuses or pay rises any time soon.
Some days I hate with a passion the HR-led ideology that pervades large organisations. My suggestion to get rid of some of HR and replace that headcount with more direct practitioners didn't go down too well.:rolleyes:
SV650rules
20-07-21, 06:59 PM
i have never even given milk content a thought before until i read the label today.
5g yes a teaspoon full of sugar in every 100ml :smt120
so in a pint of milk there is roughly 25.5g or 5.5 teaspoons of sugar. most beers have less sugar.
so my diabetes nurse says to cut down on the beer intake but has never ever mentioned milk.
It's the alcohol in beer that stuffs your body up and makes fat...
https://www.menshealth.com/uk/weight-loss/a744815/how-beer-makes-you-fat-323945/
Lactose or 'milk sugar' is a 'good' sugar ( not the nutritionally empty white sugar added to food by the bucketload ), the protein and fat in milk reduce the rate that sugar is absorbed, making it easier for the body to handle, especially with diabetes - it is low GI and does not 'spike' blood sugar.
just tried Almond milk, think it needs watered down though a its a bit thick.. i like it. big test will be my coffee in the morning. might have a cuppa t in a while to see how that goes.
ooohhh and it comes in cartons not plastic bottles which is another big plus in my book. why cant all milk come in cartons?
i dont know why i'm worrying as i only drink about 1lt of milk every 2-3 days.
New GOTD: In a management meeting at work discussing resourcing of work throughout the team, trying to share out too may projects, to hear the senior manager declare "we've just go to accept that we'll all be under pressure because of the workload".
No, how about the company accept we are under resourced for what it wants us to do and lift the recruitment freeze or reduce the job requirements! Why is it our problem that they have defined our job role/procedure/activities yet somehow it's our fault when we tell them we're not set up to cope with a significant, enduring overload situation?
So we'll end up taking too much on, not be able to deliver it all to expectations (no overtime), get routine grief about progress from now on and then get "partially achieved" at end of year performance review. Good job no-one's thinking there'll be bonuses or pay rises any time soon.
Some days I hate with a passion the HR-led ideology that pervades large organisations. My suggestion to get rid of some of HR and replace that headcount with more direct practitioners didn't go down too well.:rolleyes:
Sounds similar to my company/role. in the 5 years i've been there no work have been taken away, but more has been given. And we're growing at such a rate which means tasks take longer . . . . and then they wonder why we're not able to cover everything we should or need to.
It's only this year they've realised that and are starting to sign off on large headcount increases across the company.
SV650rules
20-07-21, 08:42 PM
just tried Almond milk, think it needs watered down though a its a bit thick.. i like it. big test will be my coffee in the morning. might have a cuppa t in a while to see how that goes.
ooohhh and it comes in cartons not plastic bottles which is another big plus in my book. why cant all milk come in cartons?
i dont know why i'm worrying as i only drink about 1lt of milk every 2-3 days.
I find Alpro unsweetened Soy the nearest to proper milk, some Soy will clump up in decaff coffee leaving a layer of porridge like scum on top - but Alpro ones don't. Good thing about Soy it does not go off like dairy milk, Alpro also make Soy pouring cream and Custard, which is very tasty...
garynortheast
20-07-21, 09:02 PM
Tesco also do their own brand organic soya milk which is pretty decent.
Craig380
20-07-21, 09:17 PM
My gripe: local A roads being 'surface dressed' (i.e. stone chippings) when they don't need it. A 4-mile stretch of the Cat & Fiddle, which was re-tarmac'd and dead smooth earlier this year, has been done, and of course the tar isn't setting because of the heat so the chippings are staying loose.
I'd love to know which f**kwit decided to resurface a road that had already had extensive resurfacing done in the past 6 months.
Dave20046
20-07-21, 09:39 PM
Firstly can someone please tell me what the cigarette trick with nail polish is? Does it melt it or something???I'd say the driver should carry a suitable container with them, rather than littering.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/cigarettes-story-of-plastic
I agree to be honest, I get Bibio's points but even if it's not 'the worst thing' personally it's around (for a bit) an unsightly and I wouldn't do it in the same way I wouldn't go around dropping loads of pieces of paper and when I discard an apple core I will only do it if I can get an excellent shot into a hedge or other habitat - if it's going to be sat on tarmac I keep it til I'm home.
My bigger gripe with smoking when driving is - why the **** is it illegal to eat while driving if smoking isn't?! They both take one hand out of the equation and you know what, if I drop my marsbar (as long as there's less than half left!) I'm not going to risk my life and take my eyes off the road or pull a sudden manouvre to find it...if I drop a smoke I have to before the car is on fire.
It's phrases like this which amuse our USA cousins....... ;)
:lol:
Dave20046
20-07-21, 09:45 PM
My gripe of the day is the state of retail shopping/my bad luck. Currently fitting a kitchen, bought an extractor fan - ( pain in the **** to fit )eventually got it hooked up, even got an electrician to commission it like a good boy ...it's dead. New one on it's way and another chunk of time gone.
Ordered worktops , they're warped - you could practically sit in them and use them as a canoe. Another waste of time while they exchange them.
Fit the sink and tap - it's a return - someone's crossthreaded everything on it with a thread.
Set the hob out ready for the gasman tomorrow - guess what it's a return and some ****'s broken one of the rings. Rebooked for next week and gasman's going to charge me idiot tax.
I feel like AdamEF's put a curse on me.
Sir Trev
21-07-21, 09:43 AM
New GOTD: In a management meeting at work discussing resourcing of work throughout the team, trying to share out too may projects, to hear the senior manager declare "we've just go to accept that we'll all be under pressure because of the workload".
Been there, got very fed up, left to go contracting and never looked back.
It was a fast growing IT company for me. I was never given time to learn the product features but was expected to micromanage the implementation resources... Too many customers to cope with because some idiot in HR had decided how much time we should spend on each based on what they'd paid - SO wrong. Especially as they were based on US experiences and it's just not the same in Europe (probably wrong in the US too). I persevered with 12 hour days and weekend email catchup for a year but in hindsight I should have left after a month or two. My mental health improved dramatically after going solo where I could do what I was comfortable with at a level I wanted to be at. Bit different now under IR35 but it's fixed term term payroll or umbrella firm now instead of Ltd company so not much different.
Don't let it get to you too much as that's a downward spiral health wise. If you cannot change the situation then get out of it. Go elsewhere or go solo if that's an option.
My gripe of the day is the state of retail shopping/my bad luck. Currently fitting a kitchen, bought an extractor fan - ( pain in the **** to fit )eventually got it hooked up, even got an electrician to commission it like a good boy ...it's dead. New one on it's way and another chunk of time gone.
Ordered worktops , they're warped - you could practically sit in them and use them as a canoe. Another waste of time while they exchange them.
Fit the sink and tap - it's a return - someone's crossthreaded everything on it with a thread.
Set the hob out ready for the gasman tomorrow - guess what it's a return and some ****'s broken one of the rings. Rebooked for next week and gasman's going to charge me idiot tax.
I feel like AdamEF's put a curse on me.
its the same all over. there are no new items being shipped at the moment so supply is limited to what is on the shelf.. take it or leave it is pretty much the norm for DIY'rs.
oohh and to your answer about nail polish remover (acetate) and fag buts. party trick was to take the "cork" looking paper off the filter place the filter in a girls hand then tell them to make a loose fist and pour in a little acetate in the gap then tell them to shake their fist up and down :toss: then open their hand. yes it looks like man juice :safe:
Dave20046
21-07-21, 03:22 PM
its the same all over. there are no new items being shipped at the moment so supply is limited to what is on the shelf.. take it or leave it is pretty much the norm for DIY'rs.
oohh and to your answer about nail polish remover (acetate) and fag buts. party trick was to take the "cork" looking paper off the filter place the filter in a girls hand then tell them to make a loose fist and pour in a little acetate in the gap then tell them to shake their fist up and down :toss: then open their hand. yes it looks like man juice :safe:
Haha that is not what I was expecting! Sounds like Immanicure conception.
svenrico
21-07-21, 10:11 PM
Been there, got very fed up, left to go contracting and never looked back.
It was a fast growing IT company for me. I was never given time to learn the product features but was expected to micromanage the implementation resources... Too many customers to cope with because some idiot in HR had decided how much time we should spend on each based on what they'd paid - SO wrong. Especially as they were based on US experiences and it's just not the same in Europe (probably wrong in the US too). I persevered with 12 hour days and weekend email catchup for a year but in hindsight I should have left after a month or two. My mental health improved dramatically after going solo where I could do what I was comfortable with at a level I wanted to be at. Bit different now under IR35 but it's fixed term term payroll or umbrella firm now instead of Ltd company so not much different.
Don't let it get to you too much as that's a downward spiral health wise. If you cannot change the situation then get out of it. Go elsewhere or go solo if that's an option.
Whatever happened to the increased leisure time they predicted for the future in the 1960's ?! I did have some periods of 3 day working weeks, but on 3 days pay, and increased workload in later years !
Thank god I am retired.
Adam Ef
22-07-21, 12:37 PM
Very dodgy Hermes delivery driver. Eventually turned up with a parcel that they "tried to deliver yesterday", but "no one was home" (we were home, all day in the garden at the front of the house, where they would have delivered to) and then supposedly delivered successfully today, again when were were home but "left it in a safe place", even though we were home? No sign of it and the proof photo (blurry non descript pic of a bit of a plastic bag with no identifying surroundings or text on it) from yesterdays failed attempt was sent through again today as proof of delivery. Again, with no clue as to location, where the safe place is or identifying marks on the packet or in photo. No sign of it anywhere in the garden, in the bushes, in the bin (yes they've left things in there before now!)
A long winded waste of time trying to contact Hermes and something must have got through and they must have contacted her to ask about it as she just turned up very sheepish and apologetic saying it must have got lost in the van. Why was it marked as delivered then? Why had we not seen her on each of the delivery visits? Because she'd never been here I'm guessing. I imagine it's a quite common practice... put a few things aside and if they slip through the net then keep them? I've had a few other Hermes deliveries I've never seen too in the past.
Very dodgy Hermes delivery driver. Eventually turned up with a parcel that they "tried to deliver yesterday", but "no one was home" (we were home, all day in the garden at the front of the house, where they would have delivered to) and then supposedly delivered successfully today, again when were were home but "left it in a safe place", even though we were home? No sign of it and the proof photo (blurry non descript pic of a bit of a plastic bag with no identifying surroundings or text on it) from yesterdays failed attempt was sent through again today as proof of delivery. Again, with no clue as to location, where the safe place is or identifying marks on the packet or in photo. No sign of it anywhere in the garden, in the bushes, in the bin (yes they've left things in there before now!)
A long winded waste of time trying to contact Hermes and something must have got through and they must have contacted her to ask about it as she just turned up very sheepish and apologetic saying it must have got lost in the van. Why was it marked as delivered then? Why had we not seen her on each of the delivery visits? Because she'd never been here I'm guessing. I imagine it's a quite common practice... put a few things aside and if they slip through the net then keep them? I've had a few other Hermes deliveries I've never seen too in the past.I've had this. I think the drivers are under pressure to deliver to a Hermes timescale which is a bit unrealistic. So if they haven't finished by the end of the day they mark the item as delivered with the intention of doing it the next day. Of course this is where it all goes to pieces and items get mislaid or forgotten about.
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shiftin_gear98
22-07-21, 02:08 PM
Or they are just dodgy robbing barstewards who randomly nick parcels on the chance of getting something good.
Adam Ef
22-07-21, 02:39 PM
I'd go with Martin's theory as it wasn't the end of the day each time, it was mid morning.
daktulos
22-07-21, 09:32 PM
While we're griping about Hermes, our driver leaves packages on the doorstep, rings the doorbell and just walks away. Our front door opens right onto the pavement, it's amazing more don't go "missing".
i have the opposate. pretty much all of the delivery drivers are great so must be a down south or big city thing. my postie even braught me a package that i failed to put the house number an. street on.
btw i dont have the spell chacker on this comp so have a good laugh :-)
Dave20046
23-07-21, 09:27 AM
The sun's gone :(
insurance companies writing off vehicles for little! It looks to be 'crash' damage, as opposed to a stolen/recovered bike.
Look at this bike (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353577390741?hash=item5252dad295:g:MmgAAOSwwEtgye4 6), up for sale that would be circa 15K. Only damage in the picture is r/h side ending head cover (head looks fine), r/h side engine protector missing & l/h side engine protector has grazing.
The rest of it looks immaculate still. How is there 8k worth of damage there, even at BMW labour you'd struggle to be at 4K getting them to repair/replace those parts.
Adam Ef
24-07-21, 02:06 PM
Engine bars would be about £180 and cam covers would be aprox £300 each. Odd that it only has engine bars on one side? Makes me thingk that on the side that it's missing the engine bar, the mount point on the frame might have been damaged. They mount on engine bolts so could be adding to the cost to repair the engine bolt mounts?
Insurance costs are usually more in recovery, storage and admin / assessment than they are on actual repairs.
Say it's been stored for a week at £150 a day after a £200 recovery cost, that's £1200 before anyone has even looked at it. It will probably sit in storage for alot longer than that too. Assessment at £500, insurance admin at £500 and it all adds up pretty quick. They'll only price it using genuine parts and main dealer labour too.
insurance companies writing off vehicles for little! It looks to be 'crash' damage, as opposed to a stolen/recovered bike.
Look at this bike (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353577390741?hash=item5252dad295:g:MmgAAOSwwEtgye4 6), up for sale that would be circa 15K. Only damage in the picture is r/h side ending head cover (head looks fine), r/h side engine protector missing & l/h side engine protector has grazing.
The rest of it looks immaculate still. How is there 8k worth of damage there, even at BMW labour you'd struggle to be at 4K getting them to repair/replace those parts.Crazy isn't it. During the 70's when I started riding I had a couple of claims on insurance. What I found then was that the dealer assessing the damage would list every part that had a slight mark or scratch. So of course the bill was huge and more profit for the dealer.
There's a famous Ogri cartoon of this. Malcolm is watching a dealer doing this assessment who gets out a hammer to put a few dents in the tank of a customers bike. Malcolm being a new employee does the next assessment and goes to town on a customers machine and nearly destroys it. Of course being Malcolm he's got the wrong bike.
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SV650rules
24-07-21, 02:51 PM
Insurance people are hard headed business people, they know that modern cars and bikes are complicated ( and sometimes delicate ) bits of kit, so may be a lot more damage than shows. My Bro dropped his VFR750 at about 30mph, lots of damaged fairing, generator cover, headlight brackets. Due to fact he had had the bike a while and was attached to it he refused write off payment from insurance and set about restoring it.... bought a lot of the fairing parts and bodywork, found the frame was cracked OMG... also found cost of new headlight brackets £500+, spent a load of money on it but kept finding other things wrong... has given up now. Insurance people may be cleverer than we think.... don't know yet if he will be able to get insurance, even if he does fix it up.. after all insurance wrote it off.
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