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Wideboy
27-10-10, 10:12 AM
Yes and that makes it a religious meat. if it wasnt it would be slaughtered like normal, its benn slaughtered specifically for a religion

Milky Bar Kid
27-10-10, 10:14 AM
You do realise its how they used to slaughter animals here anyway? Before the invention of bolt guns?

Wideboy
27-10-10, 10:23 AM
Whats that got to do with it? halal is a religious way of killing an animal for a religious food, otherwise the animal would be killed just the same as all the rest are in a generic process..... was it called halal back years ago before bolt guns, electric pools ect?

i dont want to eat anything religous regardless of its origin its not specifically something against islam

robh539
27-10-10, 10:24 AM
i dont want to eat anything religous regardless of its origin its not specifically something against islam

no eating bread or fish then ;)

hides

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 10:25 AM
Ahhh sat at the bridge with a brew and only the voices in my head for company!

Milky Bar Kid
27-10-10, 10:33 AM
Whats that got to do with it? halal is a religious way of killing an animal for a religious food, otherwise the animal would be killed just the same as all the rest are in a generic process..... was it called halal back years ago before bolt guns, electric pools ect?

i dont want to eat anything religous regardless of its origin its not specifically something against islam

no eating bread or fish then ;)

hides

Or Christmas cake or pudding....or mince pies, or the turkeys specifically slaughter for Christmas dinner or anything else Christmas related?:smt019

It was called halal years back, just not in this country!!!!!

Geodude
27-10-10, 10:35 AM
What, mince pies are slaughtered ;)

Wideboy
27-10-10, 10:39 AM
you can buy it year round. where does it state turkey, mince pies ect in the bible? there are two types of christmas, commercial christmas and the christian christmas are totally different things just like easter

Milky Bar Kid
27-10-10, 10:43 AM
Ahhh, see now you are just cherry picking rules! They are still specifically religious foods.

But anyway, I need to go.

Reeder
27-10-10, 10:44 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1313303/Britain-goes-halal---tells-public.html

You best get checking all of your food from now on. As well as checking with every single fast food vendor you use as to whether or not the meat is halal.
There's no point deciding you don't want to eat it once because you read the small print, and then end up eating it everywhere else without knowing.

Wideboy
27-10-10, 10:48 AM
Turkey isnt a religious food and neither is mince pies?? nor are they prepared in a religious way so how is that cherry picking the rules? :lol:

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 10:57 AM
Bloody hell Gav what have you started!!!

Eat what you want, believe what you want - free will to all men and all that jazzy stuff :)

Wideboy
27-10-10, 11:13 AM
I know this is how warw start!

i know most places sell halal meat and i probably eat it every other day without knowing, some resturants ect sell it without informing you. there is obviously nothing wrong with eating it but its still wrong to do it

anna
27-10-10, 11:40 AM
I dont see there being any difference in selling stuff to you in the restaurant and not telling you it Halal meat or not and the selling of an omelette which may or many not have free range eggs in it.

If you are bothered you ask about it, otherwise do as you did read the packet and if you dont want it dont buy it, based on whatever decision you make. SIMPLE

Afternoon all btw.

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 11:44 AM
My bike looks like I have been offroading :-?
Time for a clean I think

Wideboy
27-10-10, 12:04 PM
because its not right, as i say, yet again... there is no problem with halal meat itself its the principal, a muslim wont eat non halal meat and thats their right, i chose not to eat halal meat as thats my right but your all reading this as i have a problem with muslims... living in a free country i have the choice whether or not i want to do something therefore it should be clearly branded when its halal meat, probably 50% of meat products contains halal meat without it being stated and tho's selling it wouldn't know if it was or wasn't, so what am i to do?. i want to choose whether or not i want to eat it. its on the same lines as people that only buy and eat british meat or when food is branded for vegans

lily
27-10-10, 12:08 PM
but your all reading this as i have a problem with muslims...

didn't read as that AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wideboy
27-10-10, 12:14 PM
Then why is there an big issue with me choosing not to want to eat halal meat?

lily
27-10-10, 12:16 PM
I didn't think there was all I said was how halal meat was killed!

anna
27-10-10, 12:18 PM
didn't read as that AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1

It isnt a big deal hun, everything you buy in supermarkets will be labelled with it on or not, the restaurants will be able to tell you if it is or not, so they arent misleading you... you found it after all after reading the packet.

Reeder
27-10-10, 12:20 PM
I know this is how warw start!

i know most places sell halal meat and i probably eat it every other day without knowing, some resturants ect sell it without informing you. there is obviously nothing wrong with eating it but its still wrong to do it

So why didn't you eat it?

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 12:24 PM
So why didn't you eat it?

Probably for the same reason I wouldn't eat battery eggs / chicken.
Its the ethical side of it.

Wideboy
27-10-10, 12:26 PM
Because i dont agree with the way the animal is slaughtered which turns this all in a big circle back to the original post in this discussion :D

munkygunn182
27-10-10, 12:29 PM
afternoon all! Looks like i've turned up at a heavy moment?

Reeder
27-10-10, 12:29 PM
Because i dont agree with the way the animal is slaughtered which turns this all in a big circle back to the original post in this discussion :D

So referring back an earlier post of mine, are you going to ask how all of your meat that you're about to eat has been slaughtered in future? There's no point saying you don't agree with it, but then continuing to eat it from other sources in the future.

anna
27-10-10, 12:30 PM
I dont care that i've wasted, dont sell me the meat and try and hide the fact its religious, it should all be banned regardless of what religion it is

No I totally understand that you dont agree with the ethics of it. I was just trying to point out that no one had hidden the fact from you.. it was labelled as such on the product.

Anyway I hope everyones afternoon is going well I am off to try and get a copy of my criminal record, to prove to the agencies I dont have one :rolleyes: Why is everything always complicated here :rolleyes:

Wideboy
27-10-10, 12:31 PM
I already do, if its note stated i ask and 9 times out of 10 the answer i get is "duno" just like british produce ect

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 12:31 PM
afternoon all! Looks like i've turned up at a heavy moment?

No its just a friendly discussion that seems to be travelling round in a cirle

Reeder
27-10-10, 12:36 PM
I already do, if its note stated i ask and 9 times out of 10 the answer i get is "duno" just like british produce ect

Best not eat the meat when people say 'duno' then, just incase it's against your ethics. Can't risk it can you...

Reeder
27-10-10, 12:37 PM
No its just a friendly discussion that seems to be travelling round in a cirle

How is me asking if he's going to ask people if it's halal meat going round in circles?

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 12:38 PM
How is me asking if he's going to ask people if it's halal meat going round in circles?

Did I mention your name?

Reeder
27-10-10, 12:44 PM
Did I mention your name?

When you wrote you comment, was it going round in circles?

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 12:45 PM
Well it want exactly going anywhere!
I shall keep out of this I think

Reeder
27-10-10, 12:50 PM
Well it want exactly going anywhere!
I shall keep out of this I think
:-s Yes it was. I was trying to establish whether or not he was going to be proactive and ask about how the meat was slaughtered in order to stick to his beliefs, rather than just eating any old meat until he finds out that it's halal by chance.

Wideboy
27-10-10, 12:59 PM
He?? i have a name

Reeder
27-10-10, 01:01 PM
Gavin. I do apologise.

Bibio
27-10-10, 01:03 PM
if you dont want to eat religious meat wideboy then i would suggest that you eat pork.

personally i prefer halal meat rather than the chemical ridden water injected tasteless meat that seems to be the trend in this country at the moment.

if a catholic kills a cow in an abattoir singing hymns does that make it religious meat?

Bibio
27-10-10, 01:03 PM
afnoon btw peeps.

Reeder
27-10-10, 01:12 PM
Yo bibs.

Seems like this subject needs its own thread.

Bibio
27-10-10, 01:18 PM
seems i have scared off the afternoon posse.

munkygunn182
27-10-10, 01:19 PM
Hey bibio, hows things?

Bibio
27-10-10, 01:26 PM
tired. mrs b decided to have a 'road drill' night last night. think i'll get her settled and go for a bath and let the sprogs run around after her for a while.

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 01:33 PM
Hi Bib :)

Just been changing the oil in my baby girl :)
ACF50 for her next

Bibio
27-10-10, 01:35 PM
good girl. hope you put a new genuine oil filter on as well.

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 01:41 PM
She has had everthing done that she needs ;)

Bibio
27-10-10, 01:43 PM
everything? carbs ballanced, TPS adjusted, bolts/fixings checked for torque, swingarm and headstock greased up, linkages greased up.

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 01:45 PM
OK she has everything done that involves her oil and that I am able to do being the incompitent person that I am

Wideboy
27-10-10, 01:48 PM
Im hear bibiobiobiobiobio, was dealing with a feck up

Bibio
27-10-10, 01:52 PM
i'm not being patronising when i say this MM, but you have made sure that you have got the correct level of oil and not done what some people have done and keep filling it on the side stand till it reaches the 'max' mark.











only pulling yer leg MM. xxxx

Bibio
27-10-10, 01:53 PM
Im hear bibiobiobiobiobio, was dealing with a feck up

we all make mistakes young lad... but what did i feck up?

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 01:53 PM
i'm not being patronising when i say this MM, but you have made sure that you have got the correct level of oil and not done what some people have done and keep filling it on the side stand till it reaches the 'max' mark.

only pulling yer leg MM. xxxx

I am aware of how to use padock stands and a measuring jug

:smt090

Reeder
27-10-10, 01:54 PM
Im hear bibiobiobiobiobio, was dealing with a feck up

and avoiding my questions.

Bibio
27-10-10, 01:56 PM
ermmm. no gold star for you young lady.

Bibio
27-10-10, 01:57 PM
and avoiding my questions.

who me? never

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 01:58 PM
ermmm. no gold star for you young lady.

:(

Well I am going to stop doing anything to the bike.
Will take it to the garage everytime it needs anything

Reeder
27-10-10, 02:03 PM
who me? never

Nope him... I mean Gavin.

Bibio
27-10-10, 02:04 PM
dont be a dafty. i'm sure you have done it correctly. but just in case get a adult to check things over.





















runs and hides...... :smt040

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 02:05 PM
dont be a dafty. i'm sure you have done it correctly. but just in case get a adult to check things over.


runs and hides...... :smt040

You can run........................... :p

Bibio
27-10-10, 02:06 PM
and i'm an expert at playing hide and seek also murder in the dark.

Wideboy
27-10-10, 02:11 PM
and avoiding my questions.

what questions? i answered you

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 02:12 PM
and i'm an expert at playing hide and seek also murder in the dark.

:smt107 Remind me not to play murder in the dark with you then!
I am too young to die :p

Bibio
27-10-10, 02:14 PM
if we were in a dark room together the last thing i would be doing is murdering you.

Reeder
27-10-10, 02:17 PM
:-s Yes it was. I was trying to establish whether or not he was going to be proactive and ask about how the meat was slaughtered in order to stick to his beliefs, rather than just eating any old meat until he finds out that it's halal by chance.
....

Infact you're right and you did answer that question, however I stated this and would like to know if it's what you're going to do.

'Best not eat the meat when people say 'duno' then, just incase it's against your ethics. Can't risk it can you... '

So will you avoid eating the meat when people say dunno?

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 02:19 PM
if we were in a dark room together the last thing i would be doing is murdering you.

Lol silly sod :rolleyes:

Bibio
27-10-10, 02:21 PM
sod :rolleyes:

yes you would probably get that to ;)

Wideboy
27-10-10, 02:23 PM
....

Infact you're right and you did answer that question, however I stated this and would like to know if it's what you're going to do.

'Best not eat the meat when people say 'duno' then, just incase it's against your ethics. Can't risk it can you... '

So will you avoid eating the meat when people say dunno?

I did infact answer it in that way also, i suggest you see some vision specialists about that sight of yours, it doesnt seem to be fully optimized

robh539
27-10-10, 02:26 PM
yes you would probably get that to ;)

And finally back to the level of chat I understand ;)

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 02:26 PM
What to cook for tea tonight?
Best suggestion gets a prize :)

robh539
27-10-10, 02:27 PM
What to cook for tea tonight?
Best suggestion gets a prize :)

nice food, what do i win?????

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 02:28 PM
nice food, what do i win?????

Damn you Rob!!! :p

Play properly! :roll:

Reeder
27-10-10, 02:29 PM
I already do, if its note stated i ask and 9 times out of 10 the answer i get is "duno" just like british produce ect

Is the closest I can see to you answering what I asked, but it still doesn't give me what I desire.
It states that you will ask, but then does not say whether or not you will consume that meat even though you are unware of how it was slaughtered.

Please point my in the right direction of the post that explains this, seeing as my vision is so terribly impaired.

robh539
27-10-10, 02:35 PM
Damn you Rob!!! :p

Play properly! :roll:

edible food ;)

what do i win?

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 02:40 PM
edible food ;)

what do i win?

:smt075

Wideboy
27-10-10, 02:50 PM
Is the closest I can see to you answering what I asked, but it still doesn't give me what I desire.
It states that you will ask, but then does not say whether or not you will consume that meat even though you are unware of how it was slaughtered.

Please point my in the right direction of the post that explains this, seeing as my vision is so terribly impaired.

one thought that one would have gathered the definitive answer from the tone of a my posts through out the discussion upon the subject, but to satisfy your hunger for said knowledge the conclusion is yes and i already do

Reeder
27-10-10, 02:56 PM
So you will not eat meat if someone says to you that they do not know how it has been slaughtered?

Wideboy
27-10-10, 03:10 PM
Your question is irrelevant as you are writing it in the future tense when my previous answer already anwers you current question

Reeder
27-10-10, 03:12 PM
If I meet you I shall make sure that you ask before you eat every piece of meat, and if you cannot be supplied with an answer, that you do not eat it. Obviously I will do this in order to help protect your ethics.

Reeder
27-10-10, 03:13 PM
Also, before anyone points out that I made a big deal of this... yes you are right.
I did it because I could and I wanted to.

Wideboy
27-10-10, 03:15 PM
Be my guest but im affraid you wont get a chance as i never forget it

TheOnlyNemesis
27-10-10, 03:16 PM
yay, mce replied to my complaint should get here 2moz

Reeder
27-10-10, 03:16 PM
http://www.myspacehippo.com/files/comments/congratulations/MShippo3792.jpg

Wideboy
27-10-10, 03:21 PM
You dont seem to be taking my believes seriously, infact you seem to be mocking them

Reeder
27-10-10, 03:22 PM
I would never dream of mocking you.
I respect you as a person way too much, and if I'm honest I'm actually quite threatened by you.
You're a popular person on this forum so it seems and I wouldn't dare think of getting on the wrong side of you. I dread to think what the implications may be to such a newbie like me.

lily
27-10-10, 03:26 PM
I would never dream of mocking you.
I respect you as a person way too much, and if I'm honest I'm actually quite threatened by you.
You're a popular person on this forum so it seems and I wouldn't dare think of getting on the wrong side of you. I dread to think what the implications may be to such a newbie like me.

:smt082

this post could be meant in 2 ways and in both ways it's as funny as ****

Reeder
27-10-10, 03:38 PM
;)

Bibio
27-10-10, 03:54 PM
are the lovers having a tiff again?

Bibio
27-10-10, 03:57 PM
good news TON.. but dont get your hopes up. it'll read something like. dear servant, we are standing by out original decision and there is nowt you can do.

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 03:57 PM
I darent comment Bib :-?

Wideboy
27-10-10, 03:58 PM
Im having my believes mocked and i not happy about it, if my believes were religious you would be racist!

Bibio
27-10-10, 03:58 PM
hahahaaaa, you have much to learn about the megathread my dear.

Bibio
27-10-10, 04:00 PM
do what i do and dont have any... simples. i live how i want to live and decide what i like and religion can go screw it's self.

Bibio
27-10-10, 04:03 PM
i sorta agree with wideass for a change. we are being forced to eat halal meat weather we like it or not. but same could be said for other things like chlorine in the water.

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 04:09 PM
To go to the gym or not................

Bibio
27-10-10, 04:10 PM
not. just have a nice brisk walk instead. gyms are for posers.

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 04:12 PM
Lol I am far from a poser at the gym!
I am a very much "please dont look at my wobbly bits" type. :p

robh539
27-10-10, 04:13 PM
There is a point that you have all missed, WB has said about choice. The choice shouldn't be to buy them or not. But to have halal meat and a un-halal meat choice. Untill Sharia law coms to the uk anyway ;)

just my 2ps worth on the matter.

now im going this high brow chats to much for my little brain :)

Bibio
27-10-10, 04:13 PM
what gym do you go to so i can come down and perv some time. i like watching wobbly bits.

minimorecambe
27-10-10, 04:14 PM
You will have to put a wig on because I only use the ladies only part.
I very rarely venture into the big gym :)

Bibio
27-10-10, 04:15 PM
hold on... i'll sort it.

Bibio
27-10-10, 04:19 PM
<--- is that better?